African Americans Need To Boycott The Democratic Party

[The_Sheff]

yeah it is our problem, what about when a black person applies at a regular job like a bank or supermakret or teacher and they say you have to know spanish?

and at affirmative action

Nobody at any banks or supermarkets i visit speak Spanish. Are these banks and grocery stores in the middle of little Mexico?

 

[GoPro]

yeah it is our problem, what about when a black person applies at a regular job like a bank or supermakret or teacher and they say you have to know spanish?

and at affirmative action

Part of the legalization is that they learn English. Obama himself said it clear as day today.

As far as AA, I see it as a necessary evil. I would prefer we didn't have it, but there are still too many racist cacs who control too much wealth to overlook this. But in that ideal "quota" policy I mentioned, the minority candidate would have to be equally qualified with the white candidate. So basically, the minority would still be driven towards education, but at least in this system it wouldn't be for naught.

 

[El Bombi]

Nobody at any banks or supermarkets i visit speak Spanish. Are these banks and grocery stores in the middle of little Mexico?

Because you live in Memphis breh. That's one of the things I like about Memphis.


Back in my home in Dallas it's a different story. The border states are completely different. That's one the reason, why I had to get the hell from out of there.

 

[theworldismine13]

Nobody at any banks or supermarkets i visit speak Spanish. Are these banks and grocery stores in the middle of little Mexico?

they are all over the place

 

[The_Sheff]

they are all over the place

If they were all over the place i would have seen them. Are you talking about in California and Texas specifically?

 

[theworldismine13]

If they were all over the place i would have seen them. Are you talking about in California and Texas specifically?

its all over the southwest and the metropolitan areas of the east coast and its growing, there is a strong movement to make the us bilingual as that movement grows bilingualism will be more of a requirement for regular jobs

its all over the country, i dont know where you are from or where you live so i cant speak about what you see, im speaking on what i see all over the country

 

[theworldismine13]

Part of the legalization is that they learn English. Obama himself said it clear as day today.

As far as AA, I see it as a necessary evil. I would prefer we didn't have it, but there are still too many racist cacs who control too much wealth to overlook this. But in that ideal "quota" policy I mentioned, the minority candidate would have to be equally qualified with the white candidate. So basically, the minority would still be driven towards education, but at least in this system it wouldn't be for naught.

yea the english requirement is good, i agree, but i think you will still see a push for bilingualism in the us

AA is dead, and it benefits mostly non black people and white women and its just unworkable over the long run

 

[The_Sheff]

its all over the southwest and the metropolitan areas of the east coast and its growing, there is a strong movement to make the us bilingual as that movement grows bilingualism will be more of a requirement

its all over the country, i dont know where you are from or where you live so i cant speak about what you see, im speaking on what i see all over the country

Ive lived in Memphis and Atlanta. I know that outside of a small section of Atlanta you dont have to worry about speaking Spanish at all. The area is so small that anyone complaining about that area being the reason they cant get a job in banking or at the grocery store is a bum.

 

[theworldismine13]

picture me boycotting my first black president. if anything he deserves jackie robinson type recognition just for breaking the most powerful color barrier of all time. and we did it before women, open gays, latinos, and asians.

i agree but what happens when obama leaves?

 

[theworldismine13]

Ive lived in Memphis and Atlanta. I know that outside of a small section of Atlanta you dont have to worry about speaking Spanish at all. The area is so small that anyone complaining about that area being the reason they cant get a job in banking or at the grocery store is a bum.

ok, thats atlanta, but whats your point tho?

 

[El Bombi]

its all over the southwest and the metropolitan areas of the east coast and its growing, there is a strong movement to make the us bilingual as that movement grows bilingualism will be more of a requirement

True.

That's why I always tell people to move to a city with a very low Mexican population. I say Mexican and not Latino, because they are the main illegal immigrants over here. 2/3 illegal immigrants come from Mexico. I don't have any problems with the other Latino groups. The Mexicans are main ones that are pushing this agenda of being the majority population so they can have majority political control.

Living in Texas, the Puerto Ricans, El Salvadorians, etc was cool and didn't hold any prejudice towards Blacks. On the contrary, Mexicans was more prejudice than Whites in Dallas.

 

[BillBanneker]

Would not help boycotting the Democratic party when in doing so strengthens a party that has shown nothing but contempt and loathing for black people.

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Yeah, boycotting the democrats really doesn't give the black community (hate this term) any sort leverage unless there is a specific issue to resolve (ie immigration reform, drug law sentencing, felon voting rights etc.), and would require both sides, barring anything spending related since that issue so toxic right now.

 

[No1]

@BarNone

I just got back and its midnight and I'm not about to go through everything you said point for point. But first off, . Even in your point about Obama being a Blue Dog you take things out of context. He wasn't a member of them while in Congress and is ideologically to the left of literally every Blue Dog Democrat in national office (having a 100% and then 95% liberal rating for his first two years in the Senate). This is what I mean about dishonesty or arguments that cannot even be mistaken for being in anyway circumspect. Second, all you have is to say "the republican healthcare plan," that supposed Republican healthcare plan is still better than what we had before once it is fully put into action. This is all assuming that states don't fight exchanges. But what do I know, I'm only from New England where Massachusetts was like a template for this plan and where it was passed by a Democratic House. What do you know, Massachusetts has the slowest rate of growth in healthcare costs in the nation the last time I checked.

It's not a personal attack, and isn't meant to come off that way and it isn't because you're Canadian (though your comments about places like Hampton are telling), it is because you keep talking like a guy who took some political science courses and now thinks he understands American politics at a sophisticated level. My best friends in law school are Canadian, they stump me all the time, even in regards to American politics. Though they're libertarian.

The bottom line is this, making general statements without applying them with real world examples and implications makes your argument necessarily weak when we are talking in terms of political efficacy and wasted opportunity. But please stop making those type of arguments so I'm not in the unenviable position of supporting Democratic cowardice.

 

[Broke Wave]

@BarNone

I just got back and its midnight and I'm not about to go through everything you said point for point. But first off, . Even in your point about Obama being a Blue Dog you take things out of context. He wasn't a member of them while in Congress and is ideologically to the left of literally every Blue Dog Democrat in national office (having a 100% and then 95% liberal rating for his first two years in the Senate).

"Liberal Rating" I know the stupid metric you're using but this is not at all a good measure of whether a person is progressive or not. How is it taking it out of context calling Obama a blue-dog when he literally called himself a blue dog? Who's being dishonest?

This is what I mean about dishonesty or arguments that cannot even be mistaken for being in anyway circumspect. Second, all you have is to say "the republican healthcare plan," that supposed Republican healthcare plan is still better than what we had before once it is fully put into action. This is all assuming that states don't fight exchanges. But what do I know, I'm only from New England where Massachusetts was like a template for this plan and where it was passed by a Democratic House. What do you know, Massachusetts has the slowest rate of growth in healthcare costs in the nation the last time I checked.

You call me dishonest here again... yet you try and act like this plan was a good idea from a "liberal" stand point. From the perspective I have, which is that of an actual progressive, I believe it was a bad idea and definitely not a progressive idea. You did not refute my assertion that Obama used the right wing idea... you just defended the idea, which I did not attack at all..

It's not a personal attack, and isn't meant to come off that way and it isn't because you're Canadian (though your comments about places like Hampton are telling), it is because you keep talking like a guy who took some political science courses and now thinks he understands American politics at a sophisticated level.

This is hilarious... what makes you think that you can condescend me? This is shocking to me like... if you can find a single other person who posts regularly on higher learning who would agree with this sentiment I will take it as genuine advice. "Is Broke Wave someone who does not understand American Politics at a sophisticated level, as opposed to Bar None" Ask anyone that question here please, even someone who disagrees with me.

The bottom line is this, making general statements without applying them with real world examples and implications makes your argument necessarily weak when we are talking in terms of political efficacy and wasted opportunity. But please stop making those type of arguments so I'm not in the unenviable position of supporting Democratic cowardice.

Not gonna address the last part. Why not address the substance of what I said about FDR and all that if you are going to respond to me? As if I never said those things Worse of all you prefaced your attack on my knowledge of the New Deal as basically arguing from a position of ignorance.

 

[CASHAPP]

I just got back and its midnight and I'm not about to go through everything you said point for point. But first off, . Even in your point about Obama being a Blue Dog you take things out of context. He wasn't a member of them while in Congress and is ideologically to the left of literally every Blue Dog Democrat in national office (having a 100% and then 95% liberal rating for his first two years in the Senate). This is what I mean about dishonesty or arguments that cannot even be mistaken for being in anyway circumspect. Second, all you have is to say "the republican healthcare plan," that supposed Republican healthcare plan is still better than what we had before once it is fully put into action. This is all assuming that states don't fight exchanges. But what do I know, I'm only from New England where Massachusetts was like a template for this plan and where it was passed by a Democratic House. What do you know, Massachusetts has the slowest rate of growth in healthcare costs in the nation the last time I checked.

It's not a personal attack, and isn't meant to come off that way and it isn't because you're Canadian (though your comments about places like Hampton are telling), it is because you keep talking like a guy who took some political science courses and now thinks he understands American politics at a sophisticated level. My best friends in law school are Canadian, they stump me all the time, even in regards to American politics. Though they're libertarian.

The bottom line is this, making general statements without applying them with real world examples and implications makes your argument necessarily weak when we are talking in terms of political efficacy and wasted opportunity. But please stop making those type of arguments so I'm not in the unenviable position of supporting Democratic cowardice.

This is what I always try to tell people; They even have statistics out there asking for people's thoughts on the health care who live in Massachusetts and the approval was damn near into the 90s for Massachusetts Doctors who said care improved since it was implemented.

I keep telling folks that they are going to be surprised at how popular ObamaCare for the simple fact that is just the federal mandate of the state version.

Just like how Maryland's Dream Act will also be a success when it is fully implemented on the state level.

Now as I said in my post in the previous pages, I do have a list of what Obama I would like to do more for black people specifically in terms of government union reform(USPS,etc) and prison/incarceration reform, and employment in inner cities. But to make the case with saying things like "Republican Plan" and try to pass off successes he made as failures simply because it was based on a "Republican" plan is kind of silly.

And @Broke Wave I'm not picking on you by the way or being condescending don't take it the wrong way. No hard feelings.