#ADOS Feature Article in the NYTimes

[GMoney]

For political movements-- for instance, everyone always uses the history of ADOS in this country to co-opt, compare and use as blueprint.

Here is a perfect example that happened today. Look how this immigrant group tries to coopt the civil rights mvmt when many Hispanics that were here at the time were fighting for white status. They just casually use our struggle to tie in what they are doing without addressibg the anti blackness in their own communities and ranks.

 

[xoxodede]

i'd like to be more objective about reparations since they are well deserved. very skeptical on how republicans can be convinced to support it since they've all said no. right now they hold the keys.

open to enlightenment on the approach.

The thing is NO one is trying to sway republicans to vote for reparations. We know they won't. So, it's not about republicans -- it's about calling the Democrat party to task -- since they have had our majority support for a very long time.

What Yvette and Tone is calling for is "down ballot" or what they call "coattail voting" -- which is VOTING -- but not voting for the candidate. So, let's say Warren is the ticket for 2020. Then we won't vote for Warren -- we would right in our candidate - say Mrs. Williamson - or leave blank -- but we will vote for other positions and they will be democrats.

 

[xoxodede]

To even call themselves "the dreamers" is co-opting ADOS history and struggle. While at the same time they are known for being anti-Black and anti-Black American.

 

[8WON6]

the whole comment section called them out for this mess.

 

[GoAggieGo.]

It’s amazing how far this has gone; from putting pressure on politicians to force the reparations conversation, to actually getting politicians that claim ados into positions of political power.

It’s all been so refreshing, and I look forward to seeing even more growth. The bots have come a long way

 

[CBSkyline]

The article tried to play it down the middle, but that seemed to be the editor pulling strings in the background. The author's Twitter thread showed that she actually did some journalism and went to where the facts led her, without the hyperbole and stretching shyt to fit a narrative.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

The bots have come a long way

Black folks On They Swag.

 

[bzb]

The thing is NO one is trying to sway republicans to vote for reparations. We know they won't. So, it's not about republicans -- it's about calling the Democrat party to task -- since they have had our majority support for a very long time.

looking at the political landscape and effectiveness of gerrymandering i dont see how it can't be about republicans. they are set to hold majorities in state legislatures, governorships and the senate for a long time. even if there is success holding dems to task, the impact of tangible results will require repub cooperation...or very high and very strong turnout for a long time to come for dems to be in a position to enact policy they are being held to the fire for.

just seems like too much focus on only the dems, but little acknowledgement that it can't be done by dems alone even if they come out in strong support of reps.

What Yvette and Tone is calling for is "down ballot" or what they call "coattail voting" -- which is VOTING -- but not voting for the candidate. So, let's say Warren is the ticket for 2020. Then we won't vote for Warren -- we would right in our candidate - say Mrs. Williamson - or leave blank -- but we will vote for other positions and they will be democrats.

so we know williamson has no chance of winning at all. voting for her is good for showing that we're willing to sacrifice warren to prove a point, but it also creates a vicious cycle of empowering/strengthening those (repubs) who have absolutely no intention of furthering any part of the platform whatsoever. (i haven't decided which candidate i'm supporting just for clarity)

that type of comment usually leads to people say...oh well, the dems will keep losing then. but it doesn't acknowledge that the reparations end goal also keeps getting pushed further and further back. thus likely eliminating the possibility of it altogether for even more generations. that strategy seems self defeating. i don't really get it.

 

[Ugo Ogugwa]

Thanks for being kind today. I am cautious to reply to you due to your name-calling (bytches and such) in the past. I hope that is in the past - and we can be respect and kind to each other.

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But, in terms of AA and diversity quotas for education, jobs, business loans, grants, etc.

Also, those who speak for Black Americans - well many who are in the media, politics, etc -- who speak for and represent Black Americans -- most of the time are not ADOS -- and are not connected nor informed on our issues.

Many feel they are/can because they are subject to racism and discrimination when they arrive or their parents arrived in the U.S. -- but it's not the same as being ADOS -- and they don't have the issues and ish connected to them that most ADOS do.

So, no longer can someone who is not ADOS go on and speak for us - and say what we think, don't think, don't need, etc -- without being held accountable. Same for ADOS who do so - they will be able to be help accountable as well - IMO.

For political movements-- for instance, everyone always uses the history of ADOS in this country to co-opt, compare and use as blueprint. Another example is the CBC, the majority of the CBC are not Black American/ADOS -- and they have dual loyalties -- and do not place Black America and our issues first. This will help showcase what orgs are really for and by ADOS. And if they are truly trying to help ADOS communities and people. If not, fine -- but they need to state that upfront.

In terms of reparations, ADOS will start the process of repair in our communities and families. It can only help excel and help the overall ADOS population and future.

Cool. Makes sense and I agree.

 

[johnedwarduado]

Politically speaking reparations is a pipe dream and will not happen due to the makeup of congress and partisanship, no one is going cut any of you a check its as unrealistic as canceling student debt 100 percent for everyone.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

For political movements-- for instance, everyone always uses the history of ADOS in this country to co-opt, compare and use as blueprint. Another example is the CBC, the majority of the CBC are not Black American/ADOS -- and they have dual loyalties -- and do not place Black America and our issues first. This will help showcase what orgs are really for and by ADOS. And if they are truly trying to help ADOS communities and people. If not, fine -- but they need to state that upfront.

I know more ADOS are running for office now. But is there a reason why ADOS dropped the ball in terms of Congressional representation?

so we know williamson has no chance of winning at all. voting for her is good for showing that we're willing to sacrifice warren to prove a point, but it also creates a vicious cycle of empowering/strengthening those (repubs) who have absolutely no intention of furthering any part of the platform whatsoever. (i haven't decided which candidate i'm supporting just for clarity)

that type of comment usually leads to people say...oh well, the dems will keep losing then. but it doesn't acknowledge that the reparations end goal also keeps getting pushed further and further back. thus likely eliminating the possibility of it altogether for even more generations. that strategy seems self defeating. i don't really get it.

I said this in another thread (i think the ADOS thread in the Root) but ADOS is dropping the ball on not having Castro and Williamson at 5% right now in polling. And I'm only talking about the 50 and under crowd. Over 50 is lost.

 

[xoxodede]

looking at the political landscape and effectiveness of gerrymandering i dont see how it can't be about republicans. they are set to hold majorities in state legislatures, governorships and the senate for a long time. even if there is success holding dems to task, the impact of tangible results will require repub cooperation...or very high and very strong turnout for a long time to come for dems to be in a position to enact policy they are being held to the fire for.

just seems like too much focus on only the dems, but little acknowledgement that it can't be done by dems alone even if they come out in strong support of reps.




so we know williamson has no chance of winning at all. voting for her is good for showing that we're willing to sacrifice warren to prove a point, but it also creates a vicious cycle of empowering/strengthening those (repubs) who have absolutely no intention of furthering any part of the platform whatsoever. (i haven't decided which candidate i'm supporting just for clarity)

that type of comment usually leads to people say...oh well, the dems will keep losing then. but it doesn't acknowledge that the reparations end goal also keeps getting pushed further and further back. thus likely eliminating the possibility of it altogether for even more generations. that strategy seems self defeating. i don't really get it.

It's not though. But, you are entitled to feel any way you like,

The focus should be on DEMS -- as they are who we ARE and 99% vote for. Why should it be on anyone else? They are the ones who are in our faces, churches and promising things they have no intention on delivering.

And... yes -- we won't Williamson isn't winning.

Please read up on what down-voting/coattail voting is. It's to show loyalty to your party -- but showcase you are not happy with their candidate or agenda.

Whites do it all the time - and have for years. It's a way to make a point -- and make a party see you are serious about the issues you want addressed.

 

[hustlemania]

Politically speaking reparations is a pipe dream and will not happen due to the makeup of congress and partisanship, no one is going cut any of you a check its as unrealistic as canceling student debt 100 percent for everyone.

arent you from Europe..?

 

[saturn7]

looking at the political landscape and effectiveness of gerrymandering i dont see how it can't be about republicans. they are set to hold majorities in state legislatures, governorships and the senate for a long time. even if there is success holding dems to task, the impact of tangible results will require repub cooperation...or very high and very strong turnout for a long time to come for dems to be in a position to enact policy they are being held to the fire for.

just seems like too much focus on only the dems, but little acknowledgement that it can't be done by dems alone even if they come out in strong support of reps.




so we know williamson has no chance of winning at all. voting for her is good for showing that we're willing to sacrifice warren to prove a point, but it also creates a vicious cycle of empowering/strengthening those (repubs) who have absolutely no intention of furthering any part of the platform whatsoever. (i haven't decided which candidate i'm supporting just for clarity)

that type of comment usually leads to people say...oh well, the dems will keep losing then. but it doesn't acknowledge that the reparations end goal also keeps getting pushed further and further back. thus likely eliminating the possibility of it altogether for even more generations. that strategy seems self defeating. i don't really get it.

Republicans might lose the Senate in 2020 and they've been losing Governorships. Appealing to them is mostly a waste of time. Repubs are for small gov and want cuts in social programs so a massive wealth transfer like Reparations is a non starter for them.

The Dems need to feel the sting for ignoring us. If we make our Black Agenda demands, the Dem nominee doesn't respond, and we still vote for them in 2020 why would they ever fear losing the black vote again?

There must be real world consequences for their neglect. This any Blue will do stuff gets us nowhere.

 

[The Fade]

arent you from Europe..?

If he’s from Britain he was probably paying British white slave owner descendants reparations thru taxes