#ADOS Feature Article in the NYTimes

[Secure Da Bag]

It should but most a lot of the activism in online--and where people learn about ADOS.

That IS changing -- but because it is just regular people with no funding -- it (ADOS) will be holistic.

My mother and family only know about it because of me. Why? because most of them are not online -- and don't know how to use a computer. Or do for basic things only.

Neither ADOS or Williamson are getting the press and push they deserve. Williamson is not because of the reparations and supporting ADOS --who many see as this faux "divide" of Black folks.

Fair enough. But if these billionaires are able to get on the ballot and polling so late in the game. Then #ADOS and ADOS should push for increased poll numbers for Williamson and Castro. Otherwise, your political impact isn't taken as seriously as it could be. You want as much negotiating power as you can get in this type of situation. You're getting there but you're not hitting all the buttons you can hit.

 

[Wildhundreds]

Here is a perfect example that happened today. Look how this immigrant group tries to coopt the civil rights mvmt when many Hispanics that were here at the time were fighting for white status. They just casually use our struggle to tie in what they are doing without addressibg the anti blackness in their own communities and ranks.

How them "black and brown" nikkas gonna get mad at this?

You were told this was going to happen from the beginning..

 

[bzb]

It's not though. But, you are entitled to feel any way you like,

The focus should be on DEMS -- as they are who we ARE and 99% vote for. Why should it be on anyone else? They are the ones who are in our faces, churches and promising things they have no intention on delivering.

we'll have to agree to disagree here. there are more repub governors and more repub controlled state legislatures than there are dems. small chance dems can take the senate, but it isn't likely. i understand black people vote overwhelmingly along dem lines, but it is very likely we could get who we want in positions of power and they would still be blocked by repubs. who will take the blame?

And... yes -- we won't Williamson isn't winning.

Please read up on what down-voting/coattail voting is. It's to show loyalty to your party -- but showcase you are not happy with their candidate or agenda.

Whites do it all the time - and have for years. It's a way to make a point -- and make a party see you are serious about the issues you want addressed.

i don't like the idea of using whites as a case study or an example of how down voting works. either way they win. this is not the same for black people.

my point is it seems like this movement is looking for the perfect candidate and willing to sacrifice a generation or more of potential progress if we don't get that perfect candidate in one fell swoop. white people couldn't care less because their lives really won't be impacted one way or the other. ours will. the strategy seems to not care about long term impacts, just about sending a moment in time message. at least there is some focus on local elections which could help a little.

 

[xoxodede]

Fair enough. But if these billionaires are able to get on the ballot and polling so late in the game. Then #ADOS and ADOS should push for increased poll numbers for Williamson and Castro. Otherwise, your political impact isn't taken as seriously as it could be. You want as much negotiating power as you can't get in this type of situation. You're getting there but you're not hitting all the buttons you can hit.

I agree - but how without money?

That's why it's so funny about this being "funded by whites" stuff. If they were where is the damn money? And why would whites fund us for reparations?

I digress...

The ADOS meetups I have been too -- are focused on local elections and local political advocacy -- more than anything. They are also focused on just educating ADOS on why it's ok to be ADOS and look out for self. We have it ingrained in us to be "black first" no matter where you come from -- but we can still be Black first - but we have to be ADOS first.

That's the first thing we have to advocate. And luckily and SADLY, the push back we are getting is doing the work for us.

 

[KingJudah2]

ADOS is not a GROUP or ORGANIZATION. They're being purposefully misleading.

So black jew trash wrote this. Makes sense. Someone not loyal to blacks but can claim blacks

 

[bzb]

Republicans might lose the Senate in 2020 and they've been losing Governorships. Appealing to them is mostly a waste of time. Repubs are for small gov and want cuts in social programs so a massive wealth transfer like Reparations is a non starter for them.

look at the maps. highly unlikely dems take the senate in 2020. also highly unlikely for a significant swing governors or state legislatures.

The Dems need to feel the sting for ignoring us. If we make our Black Agenda demands, the Dem nominee doesn't respond, and we still vote for them in 2020 why would they ever fear losing the black vote again?

There must be real world consequences for their neglect. This any Blue will do stuff gets us nowhere.

it's much more effective to threaten someone with a loss of power once they're in that position of power. imo it needs to be "we'll help you get in with these conditions. fukk up and you're gone". and yes that can be almost any dem.

 

[xoxodede]

we'll have to agree to disagree here. there are more repub governors and more repub controlled state legislatures than there are dems. small chance dems can take the senate, but it isn't likely. i understand black people vote overwhelmingly along dem lines, but it is very likely we could get who we want in positions of power and they would still be blocked by repubs. who will take the blame?




i don't like the idea of using whites as a case study or an example of how down voting works. either way they win. this is not the same for black people.

my point is it seems like this movement is looking for the perfect candidate and willing to sacrifice a generation or more of potential progress if we don't get that perfect candidate in one fell swoop. white people couldn't care less because their lives really won't be impacted one way or the other. ours will. the strategy seems to not care about long term impacts, just about sending a moment in time message. at least there is some focus on local elections which could help a little.

LOL -- what?

Well, I said White -- cause they are known for that. They mess up elections in all categories with that tactic. It's a tactic/strategy - that we need to learn. Therefore, that is why I used it.

And we can use it.

ADOS gets blamed regardless. Who cares? We will get blamed even when we are the ones who vote people in.

ADOS is not looking for a perfect candidate. Just one who has the courage and real enough to say they support and have a ADOS agenda. I don't see the big deal.

it's like being with a ugly person you claim you in love with -- if you in-love - say and then take them out and have them meet your people.

The issue here is whites and many non-ADOS (this includes all "POC") could care less about ADOS. And that is what we are seeing.

 

[bzb]

LOL -- what?

Well, I said White -- cause they are known for that. They mess up elections in all categories with that tactic. It's a tactic - that we need to learn. Therefore, that is why I used it.

And we can use it.

it's a false tactic because white people have nothing to lose. we have way more invested in elections than they do. especially in reference to black agenda and reps.

ADOS gets blamed regardless. Who cares? We will get blamed even when we are the ones who vote people in.

ADOS is not looking for a perfect candidate. Just one who has the courage and real enough to say they support and have a ADOS agenda. I don't see the big deal.

who cares about us getting blamed about people losing when they weren't there to begin with. if we helped someone get elected and they lose a second term because they didn't follow our lead then we should tell them 'you're mfing right you lost because of us'. that's leverage.

The issue here is whites and many non-ADOS (this includes all "POC") could care less about ADOS. And that is what we are seeing.

don't agree with mixing black people of immigrant origin in with whites in this way. most of us share the same challenges and same communities. if reps happen then that brings everyone up by default. imo there are a small group of black immigrants getting pub for saying negative stuff about the rep movement. and most black immigrants dont agree. i dont include hispanic people in this comment because they are way more separated from black people than black immigrants are. i agree they probably care less about reps.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

I agree - but how without money?

That's why so funny about this being "funded by whites" stuff. If we were where is the damn money? And why would whites fund us for reparations?

I digress...

The ADOS meetups I have been too -- are focused on local elections and local political advocacy -- more than anything. They are also focused on just educating ADOS on why it's ok to be ADOS and look out for self. We have it ingrained in us to be "black first" no matter where you come from -- but we can still be Black first - but we have to be ADOS first.

That's the first thing we have to advocate. And luckily and SADLY, the push back we are getting is doing the work for us.

Funding candidates and voting on polls are different things. If Sanders can make it with grassroots contributions, then so can Williamson and Castro. But I'm just talking about polling. If that doesn't work, then a good showing in the primaries will work as well.

Spoiler: Poll info

For a poll to be counted towards the Four-Poll Threshold or Early State Polling Threshold, it must meet each of the four requirements described below (“Qualifying Poll Criteria”):

1. • Each poll must be sponsored by one of the following 16 entities or pairs of entities (“Qualifying Poll Sponsors”): Associated Press; ABC News/Washington Post; CBS News/YouGov; CNN; Des Moines Register; Fox News; Monmouth University; National Public Radio; NBC News/Wall Street Journal; NBC News/Marist; New York Times; Quinnipiac University; University of New Hampshire; USA Today/Suffolk University; Winthrop University. For individual entities that are included only in Qualifying Poll Sponsor pairs but are not listed individually, independent polling by such individual entities or polling conducted in new partnerships with such individual entities shall not meet the Qualifying Poll Criteria. The DNC reserves the right to add a Nevada-specific poll sponsor to this list in the near future.
     

1. • Each poll must be publicly released between October 16, 2019 and 11:59 P.M. on December 12, 2019.
     

The #ADOS meetups is a different thing. With that said, keep doing your thing.

 

[Crude Abolitionist]

NYT not going to let the truth get out.

 

[xoxodede]

it's a false tactic because white people have nothing to lose. we have way more invested in elections than they do. especially in reference to black agenda and reps.



who cares about us getting blamed about people losing when they weren't there to begin with. if we helped someone get elected and they lose a second term because they didn't follow our lead then we should tell them 'you're mfing right you lost because of us'. that's leverage.



don't agree with mixing black people of immigrant origin in with whites in this way. most of us share the same challenges and same communities. if reps happen then that brings everyone up by default. imo there are a small group of black immigrants getting pub for saying negative stuff about the rep movement. and most black immigrants dont agree. i dont include hispanic people in this comment because they are way more separated from black people than black immigrants are. i agree they probably care less about reps.

Whether they have something to lose or not -- it's a smart tactic. And it's one that has served them well for their needs and wants. It's something we can do as well.

We always losing -- it's time to strategize and try new tactics -- and see what works and what doesn't. If it doesn't -- go back to the drawing board - or go back to old faithful.

Well, it was you talking about "who will they blame?" I don't care. Again, they will always blame us. They means everyone who isn't ADOS.

No, we don't share the same challenges and same communities.

Again, I don't care what Black immigrants agree with. I have no issue with them. But, they are not my concern. I don't speak on their stuff and countries -- and I expect the same.

They have their needs and issues -- which seems to be immigration. And we have ours.

 

[King Sun]

So she worked for racists for free but ask y'all nikkas everyday for donations

 

[xoxodede]

Funding candidates and voting on polls are different things. If Sanders can make it with grassroots contributions, then so can Williamson and Castro. But I'm just talking about polling. If that doesn't work, then a good showing in the primaries will work as well.

Spoiler: Poll info

For a poll to be counted towards the Four-Poll Threshold or Early State Polling Threshold, it must meet each of the four requirements described below (“Qualifying Poll Criteria”):

1. • Each poll must be sponsored by one of the following 16 entities or pairs of entities (“Qualifying Poll Sponsors”): Associated Press; ABC News/Washington Post; CBS News/YouGov; CNN; Des Moines Register; Fox News; Monmouth University; National Public Radio; NBC News/Wall Street Journal; NBC News/Marist; New York Times; Quinnipiac University; University of New Hampshire; USA Today/Suffolk University; Winthrop University. For individual entities that are included only in Qualifying Poll Sponsor pairs but are not listed individually, independent polling by such individual entities or polling conducted in new partnerships with such individual entities shall not meet the Qualifying Poll Criteria. The DNC reserves the right to add a Nevada-specific poll sponsor to this list in the near future.

1. • Each poll must be publicly released between October 16, 2019 and 11:59 P.M. on December 12, 2019.

The #ADOS meetups is a different thing. With that said, keep doing your thing.

Thanks for the Poll info. I will share with ADOS Discord(s) and forums.

And thanks -- ADOS as a whole are trying to help ourselves, our parents, family and children (or future) children.

 

[Amerikan Melanin]

Fair article. Twitter thread gives hints that she’s down with the ADOS push.

Fam we out here and this thing growing!

I fukk with FBA but it’s the same lineage.

 

[GoAggieGo.]

Yea, at the end of the day, a sacrifice is going to have to be made by someone or a generation. With our group already trending downwards, it might as well be us.
We cannot keep with the status quo, and keep voting in Dems with hopes that they’ll eventually start to care for Black Americans. Our ancestors made sacrifices and got out there and fought, and now it’s our turn.