i take it, you didnt message her..
Why make the claim that she's ADOS if you didn't actually know?
Why make the claim that she's ADOS if you didn't actually know?
Captain Crunch
Veteran
xoxodede
Superstar
1. We are. ADOS groups are concentrated on local politics more so than national. Which means they are working in their community to find, aid and help ADOS get in political placements - as well as encourage ADOS to join orgs such as the NAACP, The NUL and other orgs that are vital in their communities.
2. Again, we do and will continue to vote Democratic in local and national elections. We are not waiting for anyone -- but this is a new intiatitives -- we are still fairly new -- and most of us are new to politics -- and are learning as we go. Give it time.
3. Yes, many do - and many of us now know that -- and are aiding potential candidates to run. Again, be patient and you will see more ADOD candidates.
And.....
It's not false. Sir, you found the right one today
Many ADOS are vote Dems 100% of the time-- but they are not registered as a Democrat. If they are not affiliated/registered with a party and/or independant -- and haven't registered in time to vote in a primary -- then you are not able to vote. That is what is happening to many Black voters. They don't know the process and therefore don't vote in primaries. By having closed and semi-closed primaries - it causes many ADOS not to vote.
Democrats need to fix their own voter suppression problem (opinion) - CNN
So example:
Today in New York, if you are not registered to vote at all, you can register and declare a party affiliation about one month before the primary. If you're registered as an independent, but are so inspired by a candidate like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez that you want to switch your party registration to Democratic, you'd better be a good planner. To vote in New York's federal Democratic primary -- which was held on June 26, 2018 -- you would have had to have switched your party registration by October 13, 2017. Source: Democrats need to fix their own voter suppression problem (opinion) - CNN
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Where primary elections are organized by parties, not the administration, two types of primaries can generally be distinguished:
- Closed primary.[2] (synonyms: internal primaries, party primaries) In the case of closed primaries, internal primaries, or party primaries, only party members can vote.
- Open primary.[3] All voters can take part in an open primary and may cast votes on a ballot of any party. The party may require them to express their support to the party's values and pay a small contribution to the costs of the primary.
- Closed primary. People may vote in a party's primary only if they are registered members of that party prior to election day. Independents cannot participate. Note that because some political parties name themselves independent, the terms "non-partisan" or "unaffiliated" often replace "independent" when referring to those who are not affiliated with a political party. Twelve states – Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, District of Columbia, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Pennsylvania, and Wyoming – have closed primaries.[4][5]
- Semi-closed. As in closed primaries, registered party members can vote only in their own party's primary. Semi-closed systems, however, allow unaffiliated voters to participate as well. Depending on the state, independents either make their choice of party primary privately, inside the voting booth, or publicly, by registering with any party on Election Day. Fourteen states – Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio,[6] Oregon, Rhode Island, Utah, and West Virginia – have semi-closed primaries that allow voters to register or change party preference on election day.[5][7]
- Open primary. A registered voter may vote in any party primary regardless of his or her own party affiliation. Eleven states - Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Hawaii, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, North Dakota, Vermont, and Wisconsin - have open primaries.[4] When voters do not register with a party before the primary, it is called a pick-a-party primary because the voter can select which party's primary he or she wishes to vote in on election day. Because of the open nature of this system, a practice known as raiding may occur. Raiding consists of voters of one party crossing over and voting in the primary of another party, effectively allowing a party to help choose its opposition's candidate. The theory is that opposing party members vote for the weakest candidate of the opposite party in order to give their own party the advantage in the general election. An example of this can be seen in the 1998 Vermont senatorial primary with the nomination of Fred Tuttle as the Republican candidate in the general election[citation needed].
- Semi-open. A registered voter need not publicly declare which political party's primary that they will vote in before entering the voting booth. When voters identify themselves to the election officials, they must request a party's specific ballot. Only one ballot is cast by each voter. In many states with semi-open primaries, election officials or poll workers from their respective parties record each voter's choice of party and provide access to this information. The primary difference between a semi-open and open primary system is the use of a party-specific ballot. In a semi-open primary, a public declaration in front of the election judges is made and a party-specific ballot given to the voter to cast. Certain states that use the open-primary format may print a single ballot and the voter must choose on the ballot itself which political party's candidates they will select for a contested office.
- Blanket primary. A primary in which the ballot is not restricted to candidates from one party.
- Nonpartisan blanket primary. A primary in which the ballot is not restricted to candidates from one party, where the top two candidates advance to the general election regardless of party affiliation. Louisiana has famously operated under this system, which has been nicknamed the "jungle primary." California has used a nonpartisan blanket primary since 2012 after passing Proposition 14 in 2010, and the State of Washington has used a nonpartisan blanket primary since 2008.[8]
https://www.law.berkeley.edu/wp-con...assive-Voter-Suppression-8-12-clean-draft.pdf
Second, a no-information environment may not be possible. Data vendors would still collect other publicly available information and use it to make predictions about partisan preferences. More importantly, the closed and semiclosed primary systems that exist in many states require the distribution of information about registered voters’ partisan affiliation so that the parties can properly run their primaries. Parties in these states will therefore acquire access to information about individuals’ partisan preferences and their voter registration status. These two bits of information would create opportunities for campaigns to more precisely target individuals for contact using the calculus of contact.
‘They Don’t Really Want Us to Vote’: How Republicans Made It Harder
Unlike caucuses, primaries are contests that are usually funded by taxpayers and are used to winnow down several major party candidates to just two options in November. Parties should want, and citizens should demand, greater input and access for voters in these contests—because more involvement on the front end means better choices that appeal to a greater swath of Americans by the time we get to November.
https://www.thirdway.org/memo/kill-caucuses-and-closed-primaries
you dont know, what i know..Why make the claim that she's ADOS if you didn't actually know?
with that said- its been 45min, and instead of messaging her yourself.. you're ruining a perfectly good thread, instead of just easily asking her yourself since it bothers you so much..
you dont know, what i know..
with that said- its been 45min, and instead of messaging her yourself.. you're ruining a perfectly good thread, instead of just easily asking her yourself since it bothers you so much..
THE MACHINE
night owl
Just ordered my ADOS shirt 
screenname01
All Star
Black folks On They Swag.
Secure Da Bag
Veteran
From what I've seen, there's ADOS and #ADOS. You're former, but don't subscribe to the group of the latter.
Check out how the writer of the ADOS piece tweets out an alternative less slanted piece of writing through a Twitter thread after comments from #ADOS. She is saying she could only gets so much in the 1500 word article...
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I’m happy for Antonio and Yvette
xoxodede
Superstar
1. We are. ADOS groups are concentrated on local politics more so than national. Which means they are working in their community to find, aid and help ADOS get in political placements - as well as encourage ADOS to join orgs such as the NAACP, The NUL and other orgs that are vital in their communities.
2. Again, we do and will continue to vote Democratic in local and national elections. We are not waiting for anyone -- but this is a new intiatitives -- we are still fairly new -- and most of us are new to politics -- and are learning as we go. Give it time.
3. Yes, many do - and many of us now know that -- and are aiding potential more ADOS candidates.
And.....
It's not false. Sir, you found the right one today
Many ADOS are/vote 100% of the time-- but they are not registered as a Democrat. If they are not affiliated/registered with a party and/or independant -- and haven't registered in time to vote in a primary -- then you are not able to vote. That is what is happening to many Black voters. They don't know the process and therefore don't vote in primaries. By having closed and semi-closed primaries - it causes many ADOS not to vote.
Democrats need to fix their own voter suppression problem (opinion) - CNN
So example:
Today in New York, if you are not registered to vote at all, you can register and declare a party affiliation about one month before the primary. If you're registered as an independent, but are so inspired by a candidate like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez that you want to switch your party registration to Democratic, you'd better be a good planner. To vote in New York's federal Democratic primary -- which was held on June 26, 2018 -- you would have had to have switched your party registration by October 13, 2017. Source: Democrats need to fix their own voter suppression problem (opinion) - CNN
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Where primary elections are organized by parties, not the administration, two types of primaries can generally be distinguished:
In the United States, other types can be differentiated:
- Closed primary.[2] (synonyms: internal primaries, party primaries) In the case of closed primaries, internal primaries, or party primaries, only party members can vote.
- Open primary.[3] All voters can take part in an open primary and may cast votes on a ballot of any party. The party may require them to express their support to the party's values and pay a small contribution to the costs of the primary.
- Closed primary. People may vote in a party's primary only if they are registered members of that party prior to election day. Independents cannot participate. Note that because some political parties name themselves independent, the terms "non-partisan" or "unaffiliated" often replace "independent" when referring to those who are not affiliated with a political party. Twelve states – Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, District of Columbia, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Pennsylvania, and Wyoming – have closed primaries.[4][5]
- Semi-closed. As in closed primaries, registered party members can vote only in their own party's primary. Semi-closed systems, however, allow unaffiliated voters to participate as well. Depending on the state, independents either make their choice of party primary privately, inside the voting booth, or publicly, by registering with any party on Election Day. Fourteen states – Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio,[6] Oregon, Rhode Island, Utah, and West Virginia – have semi-closed primaries that allow voters to register or change party preference on election day.[5][7]
- Open primary. A registered voter may vote in any party primary regardless of his or her own party affiliation. Eleven states - Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Hawaii, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, North Dakota, Vermont, and Wisconsin - have open primaries.[4] When voters do not register with a party before the primary, it is called a pick-a-party primary because the voter can select which party's primary he or she wishes to vote in on election day. Because of the open nature of this system, a practice known as raiding may occur. Raiding consists of voters of one party crossing over and voting in the primary of another party, effectively allowing a party to help choose its opposition's candidate. The theory is that opposing party members vote for the weakest candidate of the opposite party in order to give their own party the advantage in the general election. An example of this can be seen in the 1998 Vermont senatorial primary with the nomination of Fred Tuttle as the Republican candidate in the general election[citation needed].
- Semi-open. A registered voter need not publicly declare which political party's primary that they will vote in before entering the voting booth. When voters identify themselves to the election officials, they must request a party's specific ballot. Only one ballot is cast by each voter. In many states with semi-open primaries, election officials or poll workers from their respective parties record each voter's choice of party and provide access to this information. The primary difference between a semi-open and open primary system is the use of a party-specific ballot. In a semi-open primary, a public declaration in front of the election judges is made and a party-specific ballot given to the voter to cast. Certain states that use the open-primary format may print a single ballot and the voter must choose on the ballot itself which political party's candidates they will select for a contested office.
- Blanket primary. A primary in which the ballot is not restricted to candidates from one party.
- Nonpartisan blanket primary. A primary in which the ballot is not restricted to candidates from one party, where the top two candidates advance to the general election regardless of party affiliation. Louisiana has famously operated under this system, which has been nicknamed the "jungle primary." California has used a nonpartisan blanket primary since 2012 after passing Proposition 14 in 2010, and the State of Washington has used a nonpartisan blanket primary since 2008.[8]
https://www.law.berkeley.edu/wp-con...assive-Voter-Suppression-8-12-clean-draft.pdf
Second, a no-information environment may not be possible. Data vendors would still collect other publicly available information and use it to make predictions about partisan preferences. More importantly, the closed and semiclosed primary systems that exist in many states require the distribution of information about registered voters’ partisan affiliation so that the parties can properly run their primaries. Parties in these states will therefore acquire access to information about individuals’ partisan preferences and their voter registration status. These two bits of information would create opportunities for campaigns to more precisely target individuals for contact using the calculus of contact.
‘They Don’t Really Want Us to Vote’: How Republicans Made It Harder
Unlike caucuses, primaries are contests that are usually funded by taxpayers and are used to winnow down several major party candidates to just two options in November. Parties should want, and citizens should demand, greater input and access for voters in these contests—because more involvement on the front end means better choices that appeal to a greater swath of Americans by the time we get to November.
Kill Caucuses and Closed Primaries – Third Way
Bumping this after seeing Yvette bring it up in her Tariq video.
We need to get more educated on the voting process and stop blaming Black folks. Cause we are not the problem.
Like the OP I responded too - many arent as educated on a topic as they think they are - but continue to spew information that isn't true or the full story. And refuse to say, my bad and educate themselves more on a subject.
