#ADOS Feature Article in the NYTimes

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Whether they have something to lose or not -- it's a smart tactic. And it's one that has served them well for their needs and wants. It's something we can do as well.

We always losing -- it's time to strategize and try new tactics -- and see what works and what doesn't. If it doesn't -- go back to the drawing board - or go back to old faithful.

Well, it was you talking about "who will they blame?" I don't care. Again, they will always blame us. They means everyone who isn't ADOS.

No, we don't share the same challenges and same communities.

Again, I don't care what Black immigrants agree with. I have no issue with them. But, they are not my concern. I don't speak on their stuff and countries -- and I expect the same.

They have their needs and issues -- which seems to be immigration. And we have ours.

lol. strategizing on what works for white people sounds more emotional than real world. we've seen their rules don't appy to us in the same way.

good thing is there doesn't seem to be a well constructed strategy right now so perhaps the ideas will continue to evolve.

either way can't keep avoiding the elephant in the room (repubs) under the premise that pressuring dems to do our bidding will get us where we need to be. only way that happens is getting repubs out the paint. like it or not that will take some strategizing of 'any dem over a repub'...if holding dems accountable is the strategy, as you mentioned
 

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lol. strategizing on what works for white people sounds more emotional than real world. we've seen their rules don't appy to us in the same way.

good thing is there doesn't seem to be a well constructed strategy right now so perhaps the ideas will continue to evolve.

either way can't keep avoiding the elephant in the room (repubs) under the premise that pressuring dems to do our bidding will get us where we need to be. only way that happens is getting repubs out the paint. like it or not that will take some strategizing of 'any dem over a repub'...if holding dems accountable is the strategy, as you mentioned

Again - we are voting democrat "down the ballot" please learn what that means. Which is -- we will vote democrats for all other position -- local and national -- just not the presidential election -- if a Black agenda and reparations is not put on the table.

So, again - the key points to remember are:

ADOS is voting in the Presidential election for 2020 (like always) -- just either writing in someone else (Williamson maybe -- or leave blank) if a Black agenda is not presented.

ADOS will vote democrats "down-ballot" meaning we will be voting for all other dems on the ticket to ensure we place dems in other places.
 

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DNA wouldnt be enough to trace lineage dumbass :dead: gonna have the same dna as someone who just came from west africa

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Again - we are voting democrat "down the ballot" please learn what that means. Which is -- we will vote democrats for all other position -- local and national -- just not the presidential election -- if a Black agenda and reparations is not put on the table.

So, again - the key points to remember are:

ADOS is voting in the Presidential election for 2020 (like always) -- just either writing in someone else (Williamson maybe -- or leave blank) if a Black agenda is not presented.

ADOS will vote democrats "down-ballot" meaning we will be voting for all other dems on the ticket to ensure we place dems in other places.
Black people are concentrated for the most part. Why aren't y'all running for office and pushing your own agenda.

Charlotte is 35% black. Voter turnout for a primary is usually under 11%.

Seems more beneficial to run instead of trying to hold out a vote.

:yeshrug:
 

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Black people are concentrated for the most part. Why aren't y'all running for office and pushing your own agenda.

Charlotte is 35% black. Voter turnout for a primary is usually under 11%.

Seems more beneficial to run instead of trying to hold out a vote.

:yeshrug:

We are. We have already help elect at least one person.



Instead of trying to lay blame on Black Americans/ADOS -- understand that if Black candidates do not see a viable candidate that has an agenda for them -- then it's foolish to think they will come out for primaries.

Secondly, understand voter suppression -- and closed and semi-closed primaries.

Seems beneficial to understand and learn about what you speak on before speaking too... :yeshrug:

Closed and semi-closed primaries are the number one source of voter suppression for Black Americans.

Are North Carolina primaries open or closed?
The semi-closed primary means that unless a recognized party elected to have its primary open to unaffiliated voters, only the voters registered with that party may vote for that party's candidate.



Issue: Women, minorities, young people tend not to vote in them – it is typically older voters who do.

Closed primaries are the biggest form of voter suppression in the country. In 75% of elections, the outcome is determined in the first round of voting—the primary. In the majority of races, once a candidate wins the primary, which under a closed primary system is limited to members of their own party, they do not face a real challenge in the November election. 75% of elected officials in this country are winning office without having to communicate with voters outside their own party.
 

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Politically speaking reparations is a pipe dream and will not happen due to the makeup of congress and partisanship, no one is going cut any of you a check its as unrealistic as canceling student debt 100 percent for everyone.
It's not though. But, you are entitled to feel any way you like,

The focus should be on DEMS -- as they are who we ARE and 99% vote for. Why should it be on anyone else? They are the ones who are in our faces, churches and promising things they have no intention on delivering.

And... yes -- we won't Williamson isn't winning.

Please read up on what down-voting/coattail voting is. It's to show loyalty to your party -- but showcase you are not happy with their candidate or agenda.

Whites do it all the time - and have for years. It's a way to make a point -- and make a party see you are serious about the issues you want addressed.
All focus is on the Democrat to take the sole responsibility of endorsing reparations. Sadly, the reparation hasn't been taken seriously by the conservatives and they have control of the government in all three levels. The Republicans are the iron curtain that will block the HR bill from being pass through the senate and reach the executive branch. ADOS need a grand plan to get both Republicans and Democrats in one accord to pass the reparation bill.
 

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All focus is on the Democrat to take the sole responsibility of endorsing reparations. Sadly, the reparation hasn't been taken seriously by the conservatives and they have control of the government in all three levels. The Republicans are the iron curtain that will block the HR bill from being pass through the senate and reach the executive branch. ADOS need a grand plan to get both Republicans and Democrats in one accord to pass the reparation bill.

It's not solely on Democrats -- it's on everyone. BUT, since ADOS votes democratic 99% of the time - it is only right to call them to task.

Dems want and expect the Black American vote -- therefore - they must work with the Black American populace to present an agenda for their issues.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. NOTHING.

The truth is both the dems and republicans are the "iron curtain" for H.R. 40 bill and reparations. But, until dems put some serious activism, voice, support and concern to our needs as members of their party - as they do with immigration, DACA and everybody else -- then nothing will change.

This is dems focus:

 

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We are. We have already help elect at least one person.
It's fairly easy to do. People should do that instead of waiting for a candidate they like to come around.

Dems want and expect the Black American vote -- therefore - they must work with the Black American populace to present an agenda for their issues.

Black Americans aren't a monolith. We vote for a variety of candidates for a variety of reasons even across the democratic spectrum.

There's plenty of outreach to black voters, but that doesn't mean much.

Again, if black people vote Democrat then the logical next step for black people is to run black dem candidates. Especially in areas with a large concentration of blacks.

Why wait for a white people to prioritize your interest?

Closed and semi-closed primaries are the number one source of voter suppression for Black Americans.

This is absolutely false.


What is true is a lot of candidates run unopposed. Meaning that gives black voters multiple chances to put a candidate on the ballot that represents their interests. As I said in my initial post of only 8 percent of the voting population is showing up you can win a primary with 50k people I most cities.

Organize, run, organize, vote, benefit.
 
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