I'm talking about this specific case, not general police/prosecutor fukkery. Who killed Hae if not Adnan? There's no serious alternative. Don? Bilal? Jay? I don't buy any of that shyt. Moreover, Adnan never seemed to really want to know who killed Hae, and that's damning. Constantly evasive in interviews. He did that shyt, I'm like 98% sure.There's no other explanation? Yikes
Crooked ass police and prosecutors can actively withhold evidence showing someone else committed a crime. Think about how many folks in jail for having a trash attorney or the state withheld evidence that exonerates them
Adnan Syed released and all charges dropped
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I hate to be bias, but, the anti-Adnan ppl on the Serial podcast love them some Jay
"NO ONE would lie under oath"
"Yea, Jay changed his story several times, but, the point still stands, ADNAN KILLED HAE"
"Well, Adnan and Jay was together all day that day...THEY BOTH KILLED HER"
Most of the recent, anti-Adnan threads are pro-Jay.
That and "Adnan didn't call Hae the night she went missin, but, they called regularly" It was 1999 my nikka (
I miss those days)
"NO ONE would lie under oath"
"Yea, Jay changed his story several times, but, the point still stands, ADNAN KILLED HAE"
"Well, Adnan and Jay was together all day that day...THEY BOTH KILLED HER"
Most of the recent, anti-Adnan threads are pro-Jay.
That and "Adnan didn't call Hae the night she went missin, but, they called regularly"
It was 1999 my nikka ( I miss those days)
That's not 100% true--again, this dude is so shady, along with them cops;
Plus they saying one of the suspects has a relative right around where the car was found
Plus Jay's plea deal has double jeopardy protection
Plus, this;
The 7 Biggest Takeaways From The Case Against Adnan Syed
The finale of the four-part HBO mini-series contains multiple revelations that raise even more questions about how Syed’s case was handled.www.vulture.com
I don't know if he did it or not, but why would Mosby advocate for his release if there wasn't a lot of police/prosecutor fukkery? He got convicted with little and manipulated evidence as a high school murderer. I find it hard to believe that someone that young could manage to kill someone and leave no physical evidence. If they have some DNA evidence, why would they release Adnan before the results came back? If they thought that they could support a conviction, what's the point of advocating for his release now?
The Baltimore police have a terrible reputation and Jay's credibility is shot. I can't judge Adnan's guilt from some interview he gave after his conviction. If innocent, he could have accepted his fate as a prisoner at that point. To get convicted for a murder as a kid, when you have a paid lawyer seems crazy. If he did do it, how much concern would someone who committed murder at 17 have? I do feel sorry that Hae's family has to go through all of this. Police told them that he was the guy and now they have to see him celebrating his freedom on the news/social media.
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I gotta relisten to the podcast. I was there for the first run, but it was during my stoner days.
I barely remember any details
I barely remember any details
Serial is a good podcast for the narrative, but it's not a good podcast if you're interested in the case
undisclosed season 1/hbo documentary.
Sarah Koenig is not some kind of arbiter of what is true.
This American Life/Serial/NPR is nothing but very hardcore LIBERAL sheeeit... where "we have to say what the police/state/authority says too" drivel.
state/police/authorities' literally turned on what it said before when it was using trash tactics in 1999 that have led to so many false confessions that some of yall are flat out supporting.
seems like a lot of yall dug your heels in in 2014 and won't hear anything else though, that's fukked up. idk how you can come away from all of this and think the dude should have been found guilty in the court of law. even if you think he did it... nothing they proved guilty beyond reasonable doubt. i really don't get it unless yall are authoritarians and don't want to admit it.
undisclosed season 1/hbo documentary.
Sarah Koenig is not some kind of arbiter of what is true.
This American Life/Serial/NPR is nothing but very hardcore LIBERAL sheeeit... where "we have to say what the police/state/authority says too" drivel.
state/police/authorities' literally turned on what it said before when it was using trash tactics in 1999 that have led to so many false confessions that some of yall are flat out supporting.
seems like a lot of yall dug your heels in in 2014 and won't hear anything else though, that's fukked up. idk how you can come away from all of this and think the dude should have been found guilty in the court of law. even if you think he did it... nothing they proved guilty beyond reasonable doubt. i really don't get it unless yall are authoritarians and don't want to admit it.
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I used to believe that he did it but with the evidence that they had it was nowhere near enough to convict him.
Now, man, wtf was I thinking? With everything on the table, I'm certain he didn't even do it. These dudes withheld evidence, stories were altered on the stand PLUS the prosecutors vacated the verdict (which never happens unless they are certain they have the right guy).
20 years of life wasted, and no Law Enforcement or Prosecution team will be held accountable. They will get the right person now, but Police and Prosecution deserve punishment too.
The above is clear clear. The rest is all speculation, and I too speculate that I don't think Jay did it, but he had to have played a part right? Clearly the two names they are withholding, they must have strong evidence on so it will be interesting to see what Jay's involvement was with the person who did do it and who's getting arrested soon.
I have a strong feeling right now that they have probably at least got the responsible person already (contained, probably not arrested) and it's the same person that committed sexual assault and rape years later - because that is a horrible look for the State Prosecution team. You had info, withheld it, and the guilt party committed other heinous crimes later on. Can't let that info come out before Adnan is out. Let Adnan walk first, let the public rejoice and be distracted before burying yourself out later with the actual truth when there is less attention.
Now, man, wtf was I thinking? With everything on the table, I'm certain he didn't even do it. These dudes withheld evidence, stories were altered on the stand PLUS the prosecutors vacated the verdict (which never happens unless they are certain they have the right guy).
20 years of life wasted, and no Law Enforcement or Prosecution team will be held accountable. They will get the right person now, but Police and Prosecution deserve punishment too.
The above is clear clear. The rest is all speculation, and I too speculate that I don't think Jay did it, but he had to have played a part right? Clearly the two names they are withholding, they must have strong evidence on so it will be interesting to see what Jay's involvement was with the person who did do it and who's getting arrested soon.
I have a strong feeling right now that they have probably at least got the responsible person already (contained, probably not arrested) and it's the same person that committed sexual assault and rape years later - because that is a horrible look for the State Prosecution team. You had info, withheld it, and the guilt party committed other heinous crimes later on. Can't let that info come out before Adnan is out. Let Adnan walk first, let the public rejoice and be distracted before burying yourself out later with the actual truth when there is less attention.
yeah, I do think a lot of people knee jerk reacting about Jay... I don't think Jay has a damn thing to do with the murder, but a lot of people, especially if you only listened to the podcast, think if it's not Adnan then you're saying it was Jay.
I got no sympathy for Jay because to lie on someone and put them away for years, is not cool. however Jay probably a victim of corrupt ass cops pressuring a young man into doing what they want him to do here. I seriously doubt he has anything to do with this killing.
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what about the other cases?Social media pressure…
why are you questioning her integrity?
StretfordRed
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Similar!I gotta relisten to the podcast. I was there for the first run, but it was during my stoner days.
I barely remember any details
But this was my walking from work podcast and often a relaxant. So I’m going to spin it up again now the days are folders and shorter.
I didn’t like the other series they did in ther weird village. But the ones on the local court cases was fascinating
This podcast reminds me of winter.
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You know that rabia chick was literally sucking his dikk for hours straight.
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LOL, no other case in history has gotten this much social media discussion and outrage (from both sides).
marilyn mosby been overturning terrible cases for a minute now though.
they have confirmed corrupt cops who were using corrupt tactics in maryland back then. when people say they want police/prosecution reform it's about shyt like this. i really don't know how you can act like you know more than the state. state don't flip their own shyt like this without solid reasoning.
even rabia "musta been sucking his dikk" azz was not expecting this.
I can see why some people think that Jay was involved in it considering the fact that Jen was the one who pointed police in his direction in the first place based on information she said he told her. Not to mention the fact that he did have her phone that day, so we know they were both together that day.
Now she’s come out years later and said that she believed that everything Jay told her was a lie, but it makes no sense in why he would lie about it in the first place before the police even came in his direction. Granted a lot of stuff with Jay makes no sense.