consider what? they were all adults and not even in the same lane anymore by that point. aaliyah was the only one still stuck making the same type chit she was doing at 15.
monica got shelved cuz she had REAL CHIT going on.
Aaliyah = Cieara
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consider what? they were all adults and not even in the same lane anymore by that point. aaliyah was the only one still stuck making the same type chit she was doing at 15.
monica got shelved cuz she had REAL CHIT going on.
I was around faggit. I was 14 when she died. I support my arguments with facts, not anecdotal evidence like your stupid azz. You're wrong. How can you fall off after having the best sales of your career? I bet you didn't even know that album was by far her highest selling first week
Nobody's re-writing history, but her detractors. If Aaliyah's overrated, the story started when she was alive:
"Actually, she's a streetwise Jackson with a far more soulful song selection. The gritty beats just don't stop on 'One in a Million,' which, a la Jackson, has one track after another aching for sensual choreography"--- Atlanta Journal Constitution, 8/9/1996
"Aaliyah is a contemporary of those other barely post-adolescent R&B crooners, from Mya to Monica to Brandy et al. But with her edge and attitude—not to mention dance skills—the 21-year-old actually has more in common with Janet Jackson."---- Teresa Witz, The Washington Post, 7/22/2001
"Actually, she's a streetwise Jackson with a far more soulful song selection. The gritty beats just don't stop on 'One in a Million,' which, a la Jackson, has one track after another aching for sensual choreography"--- Atlanta Journal Constitution, 8/9/1996
"Aaliyah is a contemporary of those other barely post-adolescent R&B crooners, from Mya to Monica to Brandy et al. But with her edge and attitude—not to mention dance skills—the 21-year-old actually has more in common with Janet Jackson."---- Teresa Witz, The Washington Post, 7/22/2001
YOURE A DIKKHEAD.
those are pop records. what the hell do they have to do with r&b discussions? i can tell you dudes didnt get into music until like 2002 or some chit.
and timbaland didnt even lace aaliyah's 3rd album. i dont care about all this chit hes talking after the fact.
btw, timbaland was half-dead in the urban sectors. thats why he went pop and started making those bullchit crossover records.
Yall butchered the shyt out of Aaliyah and Ciara names.
I grew up in the 90's and became an adult in 00's. With that being said Aaliyah had a way bigger impact on music than Ciara. Aaliyah has way more fans. Timbaland > that fat nikka that was in all of Ciara videos. Ciara current song is proof she is trash. Future won
I grew up in the 90's and became an adult in 00's. With that being said Aaliyah had a way bigger impact on music than Ciara. Aaliyah has way more fans. Timbaland > that fat nikka that was in all of Ciara videos. Ciara current song is proof she is trash. Future wonI was around faggit. I was 14 when she died. I support my arguments with facts, not anecdotal evidence like your stupid azz. You're wrong. How can you fall off after having the best sales of your career? I bet you didn't even know that album was by far her highest selling first week
just cuz youre 14, it doesnt mean you were around.
judging by your previous post, i can tell that you STILL arent around.
freak.
Just stop. You don't even know what you're talking about. Aaliyah's third album sounds nothing like the previous two.
Your reason for Monica getting shelved has no bearing on it being shelved. It was a completed album with singles.
In addition, the first single released from the project, "All Eyez on Me" had experienced moderate success on the charts, while follow-up "Too Hood," also got a lukewarm response.[2] As a result, the album was pulled from stores days after the release and Monica's label J Records asked her to substantially reconstruct the record with a host of new producers, including musician Missy Elliott who would emerge as the new version's executive producer.[2]
Age Ain't Nothing but a Number - R. Kelly
One in a Million - Timbaland/Missy
Aaliyah - Static Major/Timbaland
She switch up producers for her 3 albums so none of them sound the same....Just throwing that out there
One in a Million - Timbaland/Missy
Aaliyah - Static Major/Timbaland
She switch up producers for her 3 albums so none of them sound the same....Just throwing that out there
If we're talking 2001/2002, then Timbaland was still one of the biggest producers in the Urban sectors. Petey Pablo's "Raise Up", Bubba Sparxxx's "Ugly", Ludacris's "Roll Out", Missy's "Get Ur Freak On", "Work It", "One Minute Man", Tweet's "Oops" and "Call Me" were all big records.
So you are saying because someone uses a sample they influenced their careers?
Damn near every rap artist has used a sample from James Brown and I bet half them nikkas couldn't tell you who he was. That doesn't prove anything. And how am I supposed to jump from one genre (RnB) to another (Hip Hop) and give you examples that even make sense
.For RnB I could list Fantasia, Keyshia Cole (she had a few duets with Monica as well) Keri Hilson, Ashanti and Rihanna for direct descendants of Monica. And Monica was influenced heavily by MJB. So that is the same family tree. Jennifer Hudson has followed the path that Brandy laid out from music, to movies and TV shows. Kelly Rowland, Jazmin Sullivan, Ameria, Tweet and plenty more tried to follow the Brandy mold. They just weren't as successful. And Brandy came from the Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey tree. So I really don't see your point. How far back you wanna go.
And bringing Hip Hop influence into this is illogical because producers sample music from all genres.
How can you fall off after having the best sales of your career? I bet you didn't even know that album was by far her highest selling first week
Welcome to Wacky's World
Yes. Monica took breaks because of LIFE. Her boyfriend shot himself in front of her. And she still came back making hits. And this argument they are making is pointless now. And for the cat that posted about Aaliyah selling 3 MILLION after her death, that proves the threads point
.Her sales were dipping and she was actually selling closer to what Mya was selling EVEN with Monica taking breaks in music and Brandy with breaks for acting
. And after looking at those numbers I would say Mya did fair much better than I thought and was closer to Aaliyah in sales success than I thought (AND she also had Missy writing and producing a lot on her first album so that would also show why her and Aaliyah's success was similar. They were products of the same tree and production/writers 
. They shared the same sound and benefited the same from it 
. I might even argue with her going on to win Grammy's and having a HUGE mainstream hit with Lady Marmalade she might even be ahead of Aaliyah 
in terms of success. (Prob get roasted for that).Lastly I think what is also lost in this convo is were those numbers ol boy pulled (no disrespect
) on billboard based on RnB/Hip Hop charts or were those songs charting on Billboard Hot 100/200 because there is A BIG DIFFERENCE in reach when comparing the two.
So you are saying because someone uses a sample they influenced their careers?
It goes beyond that, my dude. You have singers like Drake and Chris Brown directly talking about how much they love Aaliyah, etc. Or cats like J Cole who play Aaliyah tracks at shows, rhyme on Aaliyah beats and even go as far to base their hits on Timbaland/Aaliyah sounding shyt (Tell me "Nobody's Perfect" and that track with Miguel aren't Timbo influenced). Tinashe dealing with Aaliyah comparisons.
LOL at acting like it's some random sample that doesn't need to be discussed. like Norman Connors or some shyt.
is that in your head or fact? Any of those artist list or talk about Monica as a direct influence? As Whitney famously said..
Irrelevant comment. Wtf has this got to do with who Jennifer Hudson, Kelly, Jazmin etc are MUSICALLY influenced by?
Honestly, I don't think you understand my initial question. Why would you go back to Whitney/Mariah? we were never talking about them, and they're too early for this convo.
I'm saying... there are 3 singers that are constantly compared in this thread as contemporaries: Brandy, Monica and Aaliyah.
cats like Wacky D claim that Monica and Brandy were far more popular in their day and are still more influential RnB singers today than Aaliyah ever was.
I'm asking for receipts.
We've seen lots of Aaliyah's 'children' since her death. Where are Monica and Brandy's kids?
Answer that question and I'll be good.
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aliyah was a young thot cum guzzling r.kelly's cock to get hit records, she fukked timbo and missy too.