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Wiseman? A stretch big?Nobody is trading Stretch Centers who can rebound and defend after what AD was doing in the playoffs
You gotta groom one which is why we all want Wiseman who has the potential to be that
How do you figure this when he's shown absolutely no ability to be this type of player? Not in HS, and not in the three games in college, nor does he have the attributes that would project to be one either. But let's say for argument's sake, that he does end up transforming his game, and adapts to the current state of the NBA. The realistic expectations for someone who has shown no ability and has barely played any competitive ball against like-for-like competition, to reach this status of being a pivotal piece as a stretch big on a championship team, would be about 3-4 years. Now, what good is that when this core's last remaining years would be long gone?
That's only because McMillan couldn't utilize both of them properly, together, and it's one of the many reasons why he got fired. Bjorkgren is hoping to change that.
Wait, so now folks think that Wiseman is going to be a stretch big?
What happened to all that talk about him existing and dominating down low? He's just going to turn into a championship-floor spacer and perimeter defender with a click of the fingers?
What happened to all that talk about him existing and dominating down low? He's just going to turn into a championship-floor spacer and perimeter defender with a click of the fingers?
sidenikkagawd
We want all the smoke
AD didnt show it either coming outWiseman? A stretch big?
How do you figure this when he's shown absolutely no ability to be this type of player? Not in HS, and not in the three games in college, nor does he have the attributes that would project to be one either. But let's say for argument's sake, that he does end up transforming his game, and adapts to the current state of the NBA. The realistic expectations for someone who has shown no ability and has barely played any competitive ball against like-for-like competition, to reach this status of being a pivotal piece as a stretch big on a championship team, would be about 3-4 years. Now, what good is that when this core's last remaining years would be long gone?
And Wiseman dont have to be a stretch big right now he could be exactly what we need which is a finshing rebounding rim protector
sidenikkagawd
We want all the smoke
You creating straw man arguments no one said thisWait, so now folks think that Wiseman is going to be a stretch big?
What happened to all that talk about him existing and dominating down low? He's just going to turn into a championship-floor spacer and perimeter defender with a click of the fingers?
The biggest draw point of AD was his versatility. The KG comparisons were reiterated prior to the draft for a reason. His lateral quickness, fluidity and high-motor were the main reasons why he could defend all over the floor in college, and why he projected to be a versatile defender coming into the NBA. None of those attributes are in Wiseman's favor. AD and Wiseman are two completely different types of players.
I've given up trying to keep track of all the projections said about Wiseman in this thread, most of which are completely absent of the type of player he is, hence why now it seems like we're talking about him as a stretch big.You creating straw man arguments no one said this
sidenikkagawd
We want all the smoke
My point was AD showed no signs as a stretch big coming outta school
The biggest draw point of AD was his versatility. The KG comparisons were reiterated prior to the draft for a reason. His lateral quickness, fluidity and high-motor were the main reasons why he could defend all over the floor in college, and why he projected to be a versatile defender coming into the NBA. None of those attributes are in Wiseman's favor. AD and Wiseman are two completely different types of players.
I've given up trying to keep track of all the projections said about Wiseman in this thread, most of which are completely absent of the type of player he is, hence why now it seems like we're talking about him as a stretch big.
His main concern was would he be able to develop a shot because he was a energy big that could finish rebound and play d
He worked on his shot and became what he is as a shooter
Our hope is that Wiseman can be groomed the same way since hes showing that potential in his workouts
AD started off as a 6ft guard in HS who was known as "the little guy who would shoot threes from the corner". The main reason was he has such vast versatility is because he's essentially a guard in a big's body. He developed his skillset as a guard and then had a rapid growth spurt. By the time his senior year rolled around, he grew to 6-10 and was still playing a similar type of role - "despite his growth, Davis continued to perform aspects of the role of a guard during the season by bringing the ball up the court and shooting outside shots".
I don't know how you could possibly come to the conclusion of hope that Wiseman could be groomed the same way.
sidenikkagawd
We want all the smoke
That has nothing to do with what AD showed as a prospect coming outta Kentucky
AD started off as a 6ft guard in HS who was known as "the little guy who would shoot threes from the corner". The main reason was he has such vast versatility is because he's essentially a guard in a big's body. He developed his skillset as a guard and then had a rapid growth spurt. By the time his senior year rolled around, he grew to 6-10 and was still playing a similar type of role - "despite his growth, Davis continued to perform aspects of the role of a guard during the season by bringing the ball up the court and shooting outside shots".
I don't know how you could possibly come to the conclusion of hope that Wiseman could be groomed the same way.
SB Nation scouting report ranked AD as a 6/10 shooter and literally said he had to polish his offensive arsenal
You want me to pull up some more scouting reports are you going to continue ?
That has nothing to do with what AD showed as a prospect coming outta Kentucky
SN Nation scouting report ranked AD as a 6/10 shooter and literally said he had to polish his offensive arsenal
Stop digging the hole you're in. I say this for your own good.
sidenikkagawd
We want all the smoke
So you do wanna stopStop digging the hole you're in. I say this for your own good.
Have a nice day
It's clear as day that you have absolutely no idea of AD's path prior to the NBA, and just posted some vague, generic scouting report that doesn't detail his growth as a player throughout his development years, nor takes into account is reduced role under Calipari. All because you wanted to double-down as you realized it was too late to say that you had it all wrong.So you do wanna stop
Have a nice day
Have a nice day too. Hopefully, you learned something new.
It’s a projection for the future, not nowWait, so now folks think that Wiseman is going to be a stretch big?
What happened to all that talk about him existing and dominating down low? He's just going to turn into a championship-floor spacer and perimeter defender with a click of the fingers?
sidenikkagawd
We want all the smoke
Was AD entering the NBA as a Guard his Sophomore year in HS or as a Big Man playing for Kentucky ?It's clear as day that you have absolutely no idea of AD's path prior to the NBA, and just posted some vague, generic scouting report that doesn't detail his growth as a player throughout his development years, nor takes into account is reduced role under Calipari. All because you wanted to double-down as you realized it was too late to say that you had it wrong.
Have a nice day too. Hopefully, you learned something new.
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