As I have explained ad nauseum, black men and black women can't be compared when it comes to white women and white men.
@dede79
I'm sorry - but
NO. I am a firm believer that all White people hold racist and bigoted beliefs. They all claim that they are "not racist" in a world full of racism. It is what it is.
If you have time, you should check the video below out. Don't be out here living in fairytales, cause you approve of BM swirling.
Now, I really don't want to get into this but -- we need to call attention to and discuss the following statements:
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...white women become less racist with black men --
Not true.
It's so many examples out there that showcase and prove that just because a White woman (Non-BW) is with a Black man - that doesn't mean she isn't racist or bigoted towards Black people. Most of the time, they look at their Black mate as "special" or different than other Black people. TBH, many have issues with BW and love to diss us -- just to see what that BM is going to do. Many just keep their racist beliefs hidden or to themselves. Sometimes they don't even care, and sadly, that BM will still take up for them and stay with them. They can also have a biracial child - and still have those racist beliefs and pass them on to that child -- most of the time unknowingly and unconsciously -- now this can happen to both BM and BW who have biracial children.
As someone who recently dated a BM who swirled prior to being with me -- and has a White BM and a biracial child -- I definitely know your statement is not true. She called him racial slurs cause she thought she had a pass -- and even now doesn't want their child playing with Black dolls or wearing her hair braided. I have other personal examples of friends who have either dated or are married to someone who is biracial with a White mother -- and all have told me about the racist comments they made -- and then act like they didn't know it's wrong and cry when they get checked.
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...while IR on either side is not comparable, all of history, biology and culture connotes that black men with white women is not as invidious or harmful to black people as bedwenching, black women with white men. --
If anything - it's the other way around.
Let's be real here -- so-called "Pro-Black" men "bedbucking" isn't new -- and over the last few years -- it has been "OK'd" by many other BM. Which, has caused issues in Black self-love and unity in our community, especially for BW and our children (girls and boys).
Black men are supposed to be the MAN and protectors and leaders of the community. That is what I was taught and shown by my father, uncles and other Black men in my life. Now, many are -- but there are just as many who don't feel like it's their responsibility.
IMO when a BM dates out - a lot of them take a stepback in that protection role and desire to uplift the full community -- which includes BW. So, many who date out allow BW and our children to be disrespected. I don't know why - -and it adds to collective self-value/worthiness issues and gives ammunition for White and other non-Black women to come out of pocket.
...but it cannot be compared to bedwenching in severity, type or destructive potential. So stop with the ahistorical and misinformed posts otherwise. --
just, sigh.
I don't know one BW who is or has dated outside of their race. Not one -- personally or professionally. So, I can't speak on
the severity, type or destructive potential -- but more than a few BM I know personally and professionally have -- and one of the main things I have noticed about them is they are on that light-skinned, exotic or white woman preference for marriage viewpoint.
I just don't see how you believe and are trying to argue this. One of my hobbies is Black History - more so Slavery, Civil War, Reconstruction and Jim Crow - it became a secondary hobby after becoming obsessed with genealogy and being in charge of my family tree.
And after learning and knowing about stuff that is not taught nor told to us about what Black men and women went through -- I just can't see how a White mate is an option. So, you trying to some what cosign dating White women
as better is crazy. And honestly, when BW in the past did "Bedwench" it was not because they wanted too - they were forced too -- and those who knew that they didn't have any agency over their bodies + life at least tried to use White men for something -- and it wasn't sex. It was for a better living quarters, more food for their family, and most importantly freedom for herself and family/children.
From
Incidents in the Life of a Slave Girl, Harriet Ann Jacobs:
Her new masters are cruel and neglectful, and Dr. Flint, the father, takes an interest in Linda. He tries to force her into a sexual relationship with him when she comes of age. The girl resists his entreaties and maintains her distance.
Knowing that Flint will do anything to get his way, as a young woman Linda consents to a relationship with a white neighbor, Mr. Sands, hoping he can protect her from Flint. As a result of their relations, Sands and Linda have two mixed-race children: Benjamin, often called Benny, and Ellen. Because they were born to a slave mother, they are considered slaves, under the principle of partus sequitur ventrem, which had been part of southern slave law since the 17th century. Linda is ashamed, but hopes this illegitimate relationship will protect her from assault at the hands of Dr. Flint.
