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Damn...Glad GRRM went in all types of different directions with this ish. That original outline is crazy.
A Song of Ice & Fire by George R.R. Martin: Book Discussion Thread
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That original outline 
shyt would have been pure fukkery to read tho
shyt would have been pure fukkery to read tho
At the thrist
Adam3000
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I feel like Jon/Sansa wedding pact is going to be a 'thing' at some point in the books now.
After R+L=J is revealed, Sansa will be matched with him for marraige. Either as an end game, or at some other point in the book ending tragically.
Why do I think this? Well first off, Jon/Sansa was something that had been speculated in the past just for its narrative value. There are parralels in their story and personal development, plus the issue of inheriting Winterfell and/or the Seven Kingdoms, that allow it to make sense thematically.
But beyond the narrative value, I now think there is enough evidence to at least make this a legit theory. This GRRM outline very clearly makes it seem like Jon/Arya/Tyrion love triangle was a noteworthy part of the story. We know that isn't the case now that Arya has taken a differnent path. But perhaps GRRM replaced it with Jon/Sansa/Tyrion? Sansa and Tyrion are already married, so 2/3rds of the love triangle is already in place.
The second piece of information that lends to to the theory is the "Fifth Suitor Theory" which is based off of the events at the tournament at Ashford in Dunk & Egg. I always found this to be an interesting theory, but its original intent was to provide evidence of a Sansa/Aegon connection. But it can just as easily be used to provide evidence of a Jon/Sansa connection.
Read the theory below:
http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/1vsuxb/spoilers_all_the_tourney_at_ashford_and_sansas/
Team Jansa in full effect
:stark:
After R+L=J is revealed, Sansa will be matched with him for marraige. Either as an end game, or at some other point in the book ending tragically.
Why do I think this? Well first off, Jon/Sansa was something that had been speculated in the past just for its narrative value. There are parralels in their story and personal development, plus the issue of inheriting Winterfell and/or the Seven Kingdoms, that allow it to make sense thematically.
But beyond the narrative value, I now think there is enough evidence to at least make this a legit theory. This GRRM outline very clearly makes it seem like Jon/Arya/Tyrion love triangle was a noteworthy part of the story. We know that isn't the case now that Arya has taken a differnent path. But perhaps GRRM replaced it with Jon/Sansa/Tyrion? Sansa and Tyrion are already married, so 2/3rds of the love triangle is already in place.
The second piece of information that lends to to the theory is the "Fifth Suitor Theory" which is based off of the events at the tournament at Ashford in Dunk & Egg. I always found this to be an interesting theory, but its original intent was to provide evidence of a Sansa/Aegon connection. But it can just as easily be used to provide evidence of a Jon/Sansa connection.
Read the theory below:
http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/1vsuxb/spoilers_all_the_tourney_at_ashford_and_sansas/
Team Jansa in full effect
:stark:
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Link to this outline?
I feel like Jon/Sansa wedding pact is going to be a 'thing' at some point in the books now.
After R+L=J is revealed, Sansa will be matched with him for marraige. Either as an end game, or at some other point in the book ending tragically.
Why do I think this? Well first off, Jon/Sansa was something that had been speculated in the past just for its narrative value. There are parralels in their story and personal development, plus the issue of inheriting Winterfell and/or the Seven Kingdoms, that allow it to make sense thematically.
But beyond the narrative value, I now think there is enough evidence to at least make this a legit theory. This GRRM outline very clearly makes it seem like Jon/Arya/Tyrion love triangle was a noteworthy part of the story. We know that isn't the case now that Arya has taken a differnent path. But perhaps GRRM replaced it with Jon/Sansa/Tyrion? Sansa and Tyrion are already married, so 2/3rds of the love triangle is already in place.
The second piece of information that lends to to the theory is the "Fifth Suitor Theory" which is based off of the events at the tournament at Ashford in Dunk & Egg. I always found this to be an interesting theory, but its original intent was to provide evidence of a Sansa/Aegon connection. But it can just as easily be used to provide evidence of a Jon/Sansa connection.
Read the theory below:
http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/1vsuxb/spoilers_all_the_tourney_at_ashford_and_sansas/
Team Jansa in full effect
:stark:
Im gonna spend the next two days obsessing over this theory now.
Adam3000
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I read it but i didn't click the links
Did you even bother to read just a couple posts back bruh
FatherSimp
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This Game of Thrones fandom is surreal. I remember exchanging emails with GRRM like 12-13 years ago, and people ignoring me when I pushed them to read ASOIAF.
better late than never
Adam3000
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http://www.showbiz411.com/2015/02/1...le-are-going-to-die-who-dont-die-in-the-books
According to GRRM we will be getting deaths this season for characters still alive in the books
I know that for years he has made a big deal about minor shyt like that Dothraki rider being killed and Marillion getting his tongue cut out, so on one hand his comments could be for fairly insignificant characters like Pyp and Grenn last year.
Or, he could be referring to middle of the road characters like we got when Jojen died last year. This could include people like Grey Worm, a Sand Snake, more Nights Watch, Tormund, etc
He could also be referring to major characters who aren't endgame important.....someone like Bronn or LORDGAWDHAVEMERCYANDFORBID Queen Shireen
The question is, where on the end-game-importance scale do people like Barristan, Jaime, Stannis, etc lie?? Can they be killed already? Only GRRM and D&D can answer that
According to GRRM we will be getting deaths this season for characters still alive in the books
I know that for years he has made a big deal about minor shyt like that Dothraki rider being killed and Marillion getting his tongue cut out, so on one hand his comments could be for fairly insignificant characters like Pyp and Grenn last year.
Or, he could be referring to middle of the road characters like we got when Jojen died last year. This could include people like Grey Worm, a Sand Snake, more Nights Watch, Tormund, etc
He could also be referring to major characters who aren't endgame important.....someone like Bronn or LORDGAWDHAVEMERCYANDFORBID Queen Shireen
The question is, where on the end-game-importance scale do people like Barristan, Jaime, Stannis, etc lie?? Can they be killed already? Only GRRM and D&D can answer that
I'm pretty sure Jaime isn't end game. He's getting bodied in Dorne
Barristan has also been dead man walking status for me when Victorian got his new arm and set course to rape Dany.
So he's definitely dying this season. Neg me when the season is over if I'm wrong.
I doubt they'll kill off a POV character that isn't already dead in the books.
Adam3000
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Not sure how you could say that, remember that 6 POV characters are likely cut from the show entitely
Plus, there are obvioulsly disposable POVs like Areo Hotah and Barristan.....these guys were only POVs so there would be witness to more important things
We dont know what being a POV truly means outside of the big 5 (Bran, Arya, Dany, Jon, Tyrion)
Jaime is the biggest question mark.