You're in the book thread. That didn't happen, at all.
You gotta understand that Jamie is basically the Kobe of Westeros when it comes to the fight game.
You're in the book thread. That didn't happen, at all.
Also, Jamie, at 14/15 fought to a draw with the Smiling Knight, who is described as the Hound of his day, in the sense that he was such a renown fighter everyone wanted the credit of being him and it was only Dayne (the GOAT) who could put him down. Jamie also won melees when he was still only a squire
Jamie never has any doubt in his mind that he could have bodied Robert. None of the Kingsguard really saw Robert like that. Dude was an all-star but we're talking Hall of Famers.
Even Brienne gives him props but, says his legend was overstated. I'm just not buying he kills a Prime Robert, especially when one fights with a blunted weapon that's deadly against full plated armor and the other would just have a sword. I'm not buying it. Jaime was born in 266 AC. The Rebellion happened in 282-283 AC, which made him 16-17 years old. In other words, OLDER than Robb Stark was when he was out there winning battles, giving Tywin of all people that work. Robert and Ned were born in 262-263 AC. They're only 3-4 years older than Jaime. Which makes it sound even worse because y'all try to make it sound like Jaime's not in their era when he was. He had so much time to make a real name for himself and yet nothing.
You're absolutely muddling being a fighter versus being a general, and thus missing the point of the discussion entirelyWho did Jaime kill though? How battle tested is Jaime really? That's all I'm asking.
This is the same guy who ran face first into Robb's army and got himself yoked up. And shoulda been killed in real life. Sounds like a real smart guy in war time, against Prime Robert who was caught like a mouse at the Battle of the Bells but, still pulled out a win. Jaime to me is like a pro player whose the GOAT in a WOAT era. He never proved himself. I can tell you what all the top fighters did, all you can tell me is what Jaime might have done. Even Jaime looks at the White Book and sees he's the weakest Kingsguard. He never did shyt breh
This is about who the best fighters are. The hell are you talking about Robb and Tywin military strategies for
You started off using the Ned/Jamie fight from the show that never happened to prove that Jamie was overrated. And the only noteworthy dude he went dolo with is Rhaegar, who again was pretty good, and injured Robert, but Robert got the W. Most that's said about Robert is again, he was a fearsome dude and strong as shyt, and pretty good in the melee (no mention of him winning one). 
word on the streets is Herrera giving out that work
You're absolutely muddling being a fighter versus being a general, and thus missing the point of the discussion entirely
At the Whispering Wood, you do remember that when Jamie realized the battle was lost, he decided to after Robb personally and bodied three members of Robb's personal guard (the best swordsmen the North have to offer, essentially his Kingsguard) before he's stopped?
He charged a whole army by himself, got yoked up, thrown in a cell, starved for a year and lost his swordhand. I'll put that in plain english. He's dumb. For a "skilled" fighter, he's dumb. IF JAIME DID THAT DURING THE REBELLION, HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN KILLED 
And that would be the end of his story Im not comparing Prime Jaime vs. Prime Robert in a vacuum. I'm imaging Prime Jaime meeting Prime Robert on a battle field during the war. Jaime's not battle tested like Robert. I have nothing to go off on dude. No history. No results. No nothing. Just words....potential....maybes.....what couldve been.....and the fact that the one real battle he went out on, he came back with one hand. With Robert, he fought in countless battles, killed countless people, one after another after another, for YEARS. I'd put my money on Robert. I'll put my money on Robert having to hit Jaime once to dent his chest in, whereas Jaime needs several to cut through full armor.
Also @Malik your entire argument for Robert is based on....what exactly
There's just...no evidence as to believing that Robert could beat Jamie. Everything says otherwise
In the same fashion, Ned was good enough to spar with Arthur Dayne for five minutes and not die. Long enough to hold off the best swordsman of all time for Howland to work his swamp voodoo magic. Does it mean anything? No. Arthur would've merked Ned if Howland wasn't there and the Smiling Knight would've murked Jaime if Dayne wasn't there.I'm not muddling anything.
You tried to use the fact that Jaime was a teenager during Robert's Rebellion as a reason why he wasn't doing shyt. Robb Stark was a teenager but, he was winning battles, besting people twice, thrice his age. Robb being a general and Jaime being a fighter wasn't the point. The point was Robb was a kid/teenager just like Jaime but, he put in way more work. For Jaime being the GOAT, he spent most his life on the bench
I bought up the Whispering Wood because I was making note of Jaime's decision making during battle. Again....you missed the point. The only battle Jaime was in, without the assistance of Tywin, King Robert or Ned Stark and what did Jaime do
