A Song of Ice & Fire by George R.R. Martin: Book Discussion Thread

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im hoping we get a frey hanging. maybe have a group of freys on their way to winterfell to see roose bolton, have them raided by the brotherhood, and then have a hooded woman sentence them to death. then have the camera stay on her as they hang and when she lifts her face, BOOM its catelyn stark.

shyt would leave people going nuts.
that would be dope. dont you think theyd have to show them finding her first in the river? which im sure then reviving her. if so that would take the :gladbron: factor away for them hangings.
 

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that would be dope. dont you think theyd have to show them finding her first in the river? which im sure then reviving her. if so that would take the :gladbron: factor away for them hangings.

i think the story is too far along for that tho. if they show them finding her in the river now, its like saying she was in the river floating for at least 2 to 3 weeks. in the books they find her only a few days after and she is still a little decomposed. imagine 2 to 3 weeks? :scusthov:
 

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i think the story is too far along for that tho. if they show them finding her in the river now, its like saying she was in the river floating for at least 2 to 3 weeks. in the books they find her only a few days after and she is still a little decomposed. imagine 2 to 3 weeks? :scusthov:
makes sense. they could always show her with thoros of myr, alluding to the fact he revived her since we've seen it before. then next season have it explained how beric sacrificed himself for her.
 

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What do you guys think about how the show is portraying Theon's journey and how the fans are portraying it?
 

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What do you guys think about how the show is portraying Theon's journey and how the fans are portraying it?


I think they are doing a great job...tv watchers are asking Ramsey for mercy and cannot stand the scenes...also in his story line you can see the entire picture where some characters its here and there.
 

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I think they are doing a great job...tv watchers are asking Ramsey for mercy and cannot stand the scenes...also in his story line you can see the entire picture where some characters its here and there.
The thing is that before I even read the book's I had watched all 3 seasons and after watching season 2 I had garnered a lot sympathy for Theon and he had became my favorite character along with me beginning to believe his actor was the best on the show, but as I became aware after getting involved in the fanbase was that a lot of people were refusing to give Alfie Allen any acting recognition or give an effort to understand Theon's character and just blindly hated even when he was being tortured in season 3 and this trend has continued onto this season despite my thought's that his character arc was astounding in season 2 and up and in season 2 that he easily had the strongest along with Tyrion (Allen Sepinwall describes perfectly why they're plots are the two strongest and the main points of the season).
Do you think that this is a fault of the showrunners that the majority of showatchers refuse to acknowledge his importance and character as a whole or is it just the shows demographic?
This really has me disappointed because the vast majority of book readers agree that Reeks/Theons story was easily the strongest in A Dance with Dragon's and the show watchers who barely acknowledge him won't be able to appreciate it.
 

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The thing is that before I even read the book's I had watched all 3 seasons and after watching season 2 I had garnered a lot sympathy for Theon and he had became my favorite character along with me beginning to believe his actor was the best on the show, but as I became aware after getting involved in the fanbase was that a lot of people were refusing to give Alfie Allen any acting recognition or give an effort to understand Theon's character and just blindly hated even when he was being tortured in season 3 and this trend has continued onto this season despite my thought's that his character arc was astounding in season 2 and up and in season 2 that he easily had the strongest along with Tyrion (Allen Sepinwall describes perfectly why they're plots are the two strongest and the main points of the season).
Do you think that this is a fault of the showrunners that the majority of showatchers refuse to acknowledge his importance and character as a whole or is it just the shows demographic?
This really has me disappointed because the vast majority of book readers agree that Reeks/Theons story was easily the strongest in A Dance with Dragon's and the show watchers who barely acknowledge him won't be able to appreciate it.

1st bolded, I blame that on Stark fanaticism. I read the books before the downfall of Theon...like you, at the end, I felt bad...and this theme is true throughout the series. In Theon, he was cocky, traitor, etc. those decisions led hid to Ramsey...but he has not been killed...and it seems that GRRM is turning him into a hero or the underdog...same with Jamie, I think. Anyways, the character development of the book Theon reflects tv Theon.

2nd bolded again Stark fanaticism, I don't blame the showrunners because they have done an excellent job with Theon's story. The show watchers don't know the updated story on Reek yet, so maybe when they find out they will turnaround but I have doubts. The Stark fanaticism is strong with this honorable crap.


I am indifferent:mjpls: to the Starks or Greyjoys' plite :sas2:
 

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The thing is that before I even read the book's I had watched all 3 seasons and after watching season 2 I had garnered a lot sympathy for Theon and he had became my favorite character along with me beginning to believe his actor was the best on the show, but as I became aware after getting involved in the fanbase was that a lot of people were refusing to give Alfie Allen any acting recognition or give an effort to understand Theon's character and just blindly hated even when he was being tortured in season 3 and this trend has continued onto this season despite my thought's that his character arc was astounding in season 2 and up and in season 2 that he easily had the strongest along with Tyrion (Allen Sepinwall describes perfectly why they're plots are the two strongest and the main points of the season).
Do you think that this is a fault of the showrunners that the majority of showatchers refuse to acknowledge his importance and character as a whole or is it just the shows demographic?
This really has me disappointed because the vast majority of book readers agree that Reeks/Theons story was easily the strongest in A Dance with Dragon's and the show watchers who barely acknowledge him won't be able to appreciate it.

I think it's harder for the show watchers to see that just because someone is a dikk in one situation, it doesn't mean that they are always a dikk in every situation. This worked against Theon since he started out a dikk, the show watchers seemed to tune his stuff out like it was a bunch of torture porn added because HBO = titties and violence and Theon deserved that shyt because he fukked with Winterfell. They seem to be catching on now that maybe Theon's story is bigger than a couple shocking scenes and maybe, even though he was a dikk, no fukking body on Earth is a big enough dikk to deserve a spot in Ramsay Bolton's dog kennels.

I think the show watchers are getting there slowly, you just got there first breh :salute:

And the show/Alfie Allen are doing this storyline justice. I had no faith they would be able to pull it off in the show and they managed to do a really good job.
 
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