A rising number of American men don't want to work

[Menna]

They want a life of handouts or hustle for two years and be comfy … your choice

 

[JNew]

These are men who know their worth. Time and health is wealth. Why put your effort and energy into a system that doesn’t reward you the way you want. Also American values aren’t what they used to be, we are basically a country of every man for himself.

Women are the only ones still being conned into the American dream.

The big issue is we are being lead on a global scale by a bunch of old white men, who are exploiting their power till they hit the grave in 20 years.

If this country still cared we’d be at war with china right now for causing a global pandemic.

 

[Pseudonym]

change the work schedule, Covid has proven that a good number of workers can get things done in less than 8-12hours , 4-5 days a week in a less stressful/more relaxed environment.Plus,people still struggling making $20/hr with rent inflation, insurances, and food costs…add on car payments, loans, 401k …. And this is if you’re single and DONT have chirrens

I also think that social media has made a lot of people long for the lifestyle portrayed, making them feel depressed and unsatisfied

 

[JNew]

I also think that social media has made a lot of people long for the lifestyle portrayed, making them feel depressed and unsatisfied

This right here might be the number one issue. People are constantly bombarded with fake lifestyles.

I still remember the days before the internet wasn’t gospel and even then there were gate keepers.

 

[Buckeye Fever]

I be damned if I "opt out of work" when I got a wife and kids.

My sons watching my wife go to work while I stay home

That is a gateway to lettin' another man blow your back out because you are basically a bytch at that point

 

[Stir Fry]

I like to work

 

[The_Truth]

Nobody gives a shyt about men until they stop making money.

 

[2 one 3]

change the work schedule, Covid has proven that a good number of workers can get things done in less than 8-12hours , 4-5 days a week in a less stressful/more relaxed environment.Plus,people still struggling making $20/hr with rent inflation, insurances, and food costs…add on car payments, loans, 401k …. And this is if you’re single and DONT have chirrens

I also think that social media has made a lot of people long for the lifestyle portrayed, making them feel depressed and unsatisfied

This…

There is absolutely no reason in hell work should be eight hours five days a week. It’s simply so outdated thinking.

 

[Pazzy]

Honestly, thats the new reality because thats what the elite want. They were planning this 20, 30 years ago. They were teaching and training the generation of women today to be more prepared for the workplace than men

 

[focusloco]

At lunch break this guy told me his neighbor stays with his mama and does tik tok battles all day to make money ... These kids are on some different shyt

 

[JNew]

Nobody gives a shyt about men until they stop making money.

Thats the problem. Men should be waiting on another men to come save him. Society has in essence castrated men into thinking working is their salvation.

It’s a human rights issue. Why should someone being born have to work to live. At least for the last 100 years you had some guarantees in place for a man who worked and kept his head down.

If health care was free I wouldn’t work.

 

[Pseudonym]

This…

There is absolutely no reason in hell work should be eight hours five days a week. It’s simply so outdated thinking.

Or even maternity/ paternity leave. I don’t think it’s mandated to be paid while on leave in the US ( I think, not sure) and employees can get 12 weeks of unpaid FMLA leave. Compare that to many European countries where women can get a year of PAID maternity leave and men get a few weeks PAID paternity leave. So parents are pretty much forced to go back to work to live and also leave their kids with strangers at a day care at only 3 months old (if they take the full 12 weeks) if they’re not blessed to have someone close by who they trust to take care of the child.
God forbid you have to use FMLA to take care of a sick spouse or parent…with no pay and racking up medical bills

Also, most countries get 28-30 day PTO and other stipends to make life easier.
The US has a horrible work culture in general, there are some good companies that care for their workers, but not many

ETA: I recommend to everyone to get workers insurance like Aflac or something similar, where you can still get $$$ for health issues if you need to take off

 

[Pseudonym]

Thats the problem. Men should be waiting on another men to come save him. Society has in essence castrated men into thinking working is their salvation.

It’s a human rights issue. Why should someone being born have to work to live. At least for the last 100 years you had some guarantees in place for a man who worked and kept his head down.

If health care was free I wouldn’t work.

But no, you gotta get charged $20 for ibuprofen, and $15 dollars for a piece of gauze and meet your deductible first silly ass country

 

[Bar Razor]

Minimum wage hasn’t been raised in a long time (and should be tied to inflation).

Can’t pay for rent car note insurance any kinds of luxuries etc. With the pressure on men to be balling or at least bread winners it’s no shock some men give up.

I don’t think it’s about not wanting to work per se but wanting to work jobs that aren’t even affording you the basics.

I always think about All in the Family. Archie was able to buy a decent house, have a stay home wife, afford a kid, likely take vacations etc on a middle class salary and it was realistic at the time. This is obviously highly unlikely today.

There has been a price to pay for 40 years of trickle down economics

What could have been if FDR’s “Second Bill of Rights” had come to fruition. Instead corporations and the wealthy were allowed to take over society. Largely because a lot of the lower and middle classes were brainwashed into thinking these things were filthy socialism and there is racial component about the “wrong types” of people benefiting from robust social programs.

From FDR State of the Union speech:
. Among these are:

• The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
• The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
• The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
• The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
• The right of every family to a decent home;
• The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
• The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
• The right to a good education.

All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.

 

[Crayola Coyote]

They mean men ain’t working for women anymore they are using their money to invest, buy video games, sports bet stuff that interests them which the country does not like