Didn't read the thread, and maybe a hot take, but the pursuit of sex/women and/or a family has always been a huge motivator for men throughout history. We live in a generation where women are talking about they'd take a bear over a man. OnlyFans is popping. Sugar babies are popping. Divorce rate is crazy. Just living is expensive so people barely want to have kids anymore, and young women are in the streets living their best lives, while all these young men their same age can see how it's going down play by play online. What exactly are these young guys supposed to be motivated to work for now?
I feel for these young guys. Not working ain't gonna solve their problems, but when you look at the current state of American society, the current economy, and the current state of dating/relationships, I can understand how it'd be hard for some of them to get motivated to do anything.
At the end of the day though not working doesn't keep you from being a slave to and/or getting crushed by the capitalist system. Making some money and getting yourself financially free is the way imo, but to each their own.
And with that said, the young guys that do have some grind are gonna clean up in the next 5-10 years considering what a lot of their peers are up to