‘A Loss Is A Loss’: Democratic Senators Frustrated After Party Falls Short

[Cognito]

Schumer went with the safe play this cycle of just saying healthcare but that was a terrible decision the only one that actually cut their opponent was Ossoff.

 

[OfTheCross]

Polling is dead.

 

[A.R.$]

To be fair, their beef is with the slogan, not the objective. “defund” means “defund”, not reform, not fund other, not set up new services/task forces, it means stop funding, which sounds absurd in regards to a police department

I agree that the slogan is dumb. However, they are not offering any real reforms to address the policing problem. These candidates are running as empty suits.

Also Schumer picked a lot of bad candidates. Amy McGrath offered no solutions and barely said anything after Breonna Taylor was murdered in her state. She would of lost her primary of it wasn’t for Schumer and the DSCC support. McGrath didn’t stand for anything, and on top of that she had a boring personality.

In NC Cunningham dumbass was caught having an affair right before the election.

I still trying to figure out how the Dems lost in Maine. It should of been a layup.

The other seats were in highly red states. It was always going to next to impossible to win in a presidential year in SC, Al, WV and Montana no matter how good the candidate was.

 

[mastermind]

To be fair, their beef is with the slogan, not the objective. “defund” means “defund”, not reform, not fund other, not set up new services/task forces, it means stop funding, which sounds absurd in regards to a police department

They have beef with the objective too

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I agree that the slogan is dumb. However, they are not offering any real reforms to address the policing problem. These candidates are running as empty suits.

Also Schumer picked a lot of bad candidates. Amy McGrath offered no solutions and barely said anything after Breonna Taylor was murdered in her state. She would of lost her primary of it wasn’t for Schumer and the DSCC support. McGrath didn’t stand for anything, and on top of that she had a boring personality.

In NC Cunningham dumbass was caught having an affair right before the election.

I still trying to figure out how the Dems lost in Maine. It should of been a layup.

The other seats were in highly red states. It was always going to next to impossible to win in a presidential year in SC, Al, WV and Montana no matter how good the candidate was.

Police reform is a local issue...

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

They have beef with the objective too

I haven’t seen that anywhere but please feel free to post evidence of a dem candidate being anti police reform

 

[mastermind]

I haven’t seen that anywhere but please feel free to post evidence of a dem candidate being anti police reform

That’s not what I said or what you said, unless I’m misunderstanding.

The objective of defunding the police is moving money from the police to social programs. That means lowering the police budget by a lot. I haven’t seen a centrist dem advocate for that. Biden has never advocated for that.

 

[Pressure]

Y'all still don't get NC politics.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

That’s not what I said or what you said, unless I’m misunderstanding.

The objective of defunding the police is moving money from the police to social programs. That means lowering the police budget by a lot. I haven’t seen a centrist dem advocate for that. Biden has never advocated for that.

Not advocating for it doesn’t mean they are against the objective (ie anti police reform). If you’re not from a big city district, the places this movement has legs, or if you’re running a statewide race, I don’t see a point in making it part of your platform as police reform is a local issue.

 

[Pressure]

That’s not what I said or what you said, unless I’m misunderstanding.

The objective of defunding the police is moving money from the police to social programs. That means lowering the police budget by a lot. I haven’t seen a centrist dem advocate for that. Biden has never advocated for that.

And the last thing I'll say, and I'm sorry, but it's really, I think, really, really important, is you have to be in a position where you are able to identify -- identify the things that have to change and one of the things that has to change is, so many cops get called into circumstances where somebody is mentally off. Like what happened not long ago, that guy with the knife.

That's why we have to provide -- within police departments, psychologists and social workers, to go out with the cops on those calls, those -- some of those 911 calls, to de-escalate the circumstance, to deal with talking them down.

But we can't -- cops are kind of like schoolteachers now. You know, schoolteacher has to know everything from what -- how -- how to handle hunger in a household, as well as how to teach you how to read. Well, cops don't have that breadth, and there's a lot of things we can do.

We shouldn't be defunding cops, we should be mandating the things that we should be doing within police departments and make sure there's total transparency.

 

[Loose]

That’s not what I said or what you said, unless I’m misunderstanding.

The objective of defunding the police is moving money from the police to social programs. That means lowering the police budget by a lot. I haven’t seen a centrist dem advocate for that. Biden has never advocated for that.

While that sounds good on paper, I don't think that's a good strategy in most districts to run on and absolutely not statewide. Police unions have too much political power.

 

[Hood Critic]

it's indicative of the left. imo, one of their biggest problems is that they suck at messaging, branding and selling their policies to the regular joe.

only if someone in the Democratic party would come out and say that...

 

[mastermind]

Not advocating for it doesn’t mean they are against the objective (ie anti police reform). If you’re not from a big city district, the places this movement has legs, or if you’re running a statewide race, I don’t see a point in making it part of your platform as police reform is a local issue.

Police reform isn't the objective. Defunding the police means allocating resources to social programs, and the Dems run into this problem of not advocating for it and then letting others decide what they mean.

While that sounds good on paper, I don't think that's a good strategy in most districts to run on and absolutely not statewide. Police unions have too much political power.

And what I said before is the DNC fears advocates. Work with them instead of running away from them.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Police reform isn't the objective. Defunding the police means allocating resources to social programs, and the Dems run into this problem of not advocating for it and then letting others decide what they mean.


And what I said before is the DNC fears advocates. Work with them instead of running away from them.

There are a lot of towns in the deep south that the population is overwhelmingly Black. Locally they can't get behind 'defund the police'?

 

[mastermind]

There are a lot of towns in the deep south that the population is overwhelmingly Black. Locally they can't get behind 'defund the police'?

My thing is if you think the slogan is bad, work with BLM to craft a better message. You pay all these bozo, empty suits millions to come up with slogans, put them to work. Find messaging for individual areas. Your policy can be the same, but messaging has to fit in different parts of the country. It seems the Dems want to do a one size fits all.

On top of that, you bring in a group into the political fold who will advocate for your candidates.