A #BandCamp + #Thurminators collabo - 3/7/15: Broner vs Molina Jr. and Thurman vs Guerrero

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I was reading that exchange between @Newzz and @NatiboyB like :what:...:manny:
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Breh...I didnt understand it. It was totally out of left field:wow:


If I could, I would go back and remove his posts from this thread about that:camby:


Nobody derails a #BandCamp Official Fight thread about nonsense NOT relating to Boxing:birdman:
 

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Breh...I didnt understand it. It was totally out of left field:wow:


If I could, I would go back and remove his posts from this thread about that:camby:


Nobody derails a #BandCamp Official Fight thread about nonsense NOT relating to Boxing:birdman:

Agreed.

nikka showed up spouting nonsense that nobody gave two fukks about. :mjlol:
 

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if u think about it, guerrero is so overated... well idk how highly rated he is but that guy is ass... crazy how he got that floyd fight... its starting to look like whoever faught floyd is being looked like they were or are great fighters.
 

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if u think about it, guerrero is so overated... well idk how highly rated he is but that guy is ass... crazy how he got that floyd fight... its starting to look like whoever faught floyd is being looked like they were or are great fighters.
This is true.

nikkas stay saying how Thurman hasn't beaten anybody. Well who the fukk has Ghost beaten?

His best win is against Andre Berto (who turned out to be a complete hype job). Who else has he beaten to earn any acclaim?

Average ass Aydin? Washed up Casamayor? Michael Katsidis? :scusthov:

The 2 times Ghost stepped up in competition (Salido & Mayweather) he got dominated

After Thurman fukks this dude up, this is the only "Ghost" Guerrero gonna be looking like

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I've liked One Time since I first seent him on HBO

I think he beats Ghost...which would be good for boxing

BUT a part of me wants Guerrero to win so we can get Ghost vs Swift just for the overload of fukkery they fathers would bring :ohlawd:
 

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This is true.

nikkas stay saying how Thurman hasn't beaten anybody. Well who the fukk has Ghost beaten?

His best win is against Andre Berto (who turned out to be a complete hype job). Who else has he beaten to earn any acclaim?

Averages ass Aydin? Washed up Casamayor? Michael Katsidis? :scusthov:

The 2 times Ghost stepped up in competition (Salidao & Mayweather) he got dominated

After Thurman fukks this dude up, this is the only "Ghost" Guerrero gonna be looking like

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i think hes just a fighter that golden boy groomed/hype to fight floyd... they did it with ortiz too... if you think about it, berto lost two shots to fight floyd in losing to those two cats... people can counter and say they were the best out there, mabye the best golden boy had?... either way they were nothing special... also maidana, he did look good against broner, but then agian broner was moving up in wieght... but i think maidana will get more of a pass cuz he looked good vs floyd the first time...
 

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I've liked One Time since I first seent him on HBO

I think he beats Ghost...which would be good for boxing

BUT a part of me wants Guerrero to win so we can get Ghost vs Swift just for the overload of fukkery they fathers would bring :ohlawd:
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I still can see that fight happening sometime down the road even if Ghost loses to One Time (which he will)
 

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:heh:

I still can see that fight happening sometime down the road even if Ghost loses to One Time (which he will)


Yea true...it should most likely happen one day

But itd mean alot more if Ghost was on a hot streak N had an undefeated Thurman scalp under his belt :yeshrug:

I picked One Time tho N I'll be riding with him
 

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if u think about it, guerrero is so overated... well idk how highly rated he is but that guy is ass... crazy how he got that floyd fight... its starting to look like whoever faught floyd is being looked like they were or are great fighters.

Thank God, I'm not the only one who sees this shyt.

The Ghost is so fukking overrated it's crazy. Dude has done nothing, but division hop and grab vacant belts. He's mostly feasted on C and B level guys and looking average as fukk in the process. nikkas love shytting on Algieri, but his wins over Ruslan and Taylor or just about as good as anything Ghost has done in his career which is bad when you think about it since Chris had those fights in one year while it took years for the Ghost to even fight a guy like Berto (who was overrated himself, but not as bad as the Ghost) When I see nikkas give Guerrero props I just be like. :mindblown:

Ghost has....
-average power:pachaha:
- went from having good footwork/movement into cement block feet status:scust:
- defense is bushes status:camby:

Only worthwhile attribute he has is his chin. He's been outboxed by Diaz and Floyd and bullied and beat up by Salido. His best wins against guys like Berto and Aydin have now been eclipsed by a journeyman in Soto Karass. :mjlol:


I'd be highly disappointed if #Thurminator doesn't beat the dog shyt outta this fukking wanker.
 

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if u think about it, guerrero is so overated... well idk how highly rated he is but that guy is ass... crazy how he got that floyd fight... its starting to look like whoever faught floyd is being looked like they were or are great fighters.

this is what i was insinuating when i said certain ppl were overrating him..if there was one fighter who should have not got a fight with floyd its him...and it sure as hell shouldn't have been on PPV
 

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Molina ready for braggadocious Broner
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I’m not supposed to have favorites or play favorites or betray a rooting interest…and generally, I think I do fairly well despite the fact that the head and heart sometimes have anyone that isn’t a robot “falling in like” with a certain fighter, who may be extra charming or humble or possess some other trait which speaks to me.

Confession: I sort of fell in like with junior welterweight John Molina Jr. when I heard him use the “braggadocious” in relation to the man he’ll be fighting on Saturday night on NBC, in prime-time, Adrien Broner.

Now, I don’t think Broner would necessarily take exception to that characterization, as that’s been a huge element of the buzz he’s conjured, and the size of of the fan (and ANTI-fan) base he’s built since turning pro in 2008. The number of folks who’d love to see Molina, a California-based boxer and married father, drop and stop Broner on “Premier Boxing Champions” when they square off, is considerable.

But it wasn’t simply the admirable vocabulary which spurred some kind thoughts in my head during a recent phoner with the 32-year-old Molina, who possesses a 27-5 (22 knockouts) record. In fact, he was in the Boxing Writers Association of America’s “2014 Fight of the Year” with violent waltz partner Lucas Matthysse.

When Molina and I were wrapping up and I asked him if he wanted to add anything or touch on anything I neglected, he told me he was dedicating this fight to two people who are no longer with us. His grandfather, the 80-year-old patriarch of the family, Sid Molina died three weeks ago. And his childhood pal, Andy G. died a couple weeks ago from complications from cystic fibrosis. “He was like a brother to me; I’ve known him since I was five years old. We grew up on the same street,” Molina told me. “And Grandpa had such a personality. He had 19 grandchildren, 15 great-grandchildren. And each one of us was his favorite! So those two things took a bit of wind out of my sails. But because these two men faced the mystery of what we’re all going to go through…my little bro…man, there’s nothing I can’t face.”

OK, while I’m on this track, I might as well keep at it; I also enjoy and admire Molina because he’s unabashed about acknowledging he is in the entertainment business. Kid gets it, that people are ponying up good money to come see him and they didn’t end up at the arena because they thought they were buying a ticket to watch “Dancing With the Stars.”

No, the reason people responded to his fight against the Argentine Matthysse is because it was, he told me, “an all-out dogfight.”

I noted that I really respond to the Fight of the Year award, oftentimes, more so than the “Fighter of the Year” because a fighter can win Fighter of the Year without being severely pushed…but you know the two who won Fight of the Year worked together to paint a compelling portrait of violence that can strangely evoke emotions that only a great work of art can. Matthysse and Molina COLLABORATED on that masterpiece, in which each man allowed an intimate look at his character and proved on that one night, for themselves, for everyday people too timid for that arena but perhaps facing the prospect of a terminally ill child or a terminal cancer diagnosis or whatever, that they too can do as those men did…and not give up. “Yes, it was one of those rare instances where you can lose a fight but your reputation is enhanced,” Molina said. “Mine and his. But we gave pieces of ourselves that night.”

He gets it…Molina knows the contract; he’s read and re-read it. No, not physically, that’s not what he’s talking about. He told me he feels stellar and his coach of six years, Joe Goossen has been pleased with his camp, the first after back-to-back losses to Matthysse and then Humberto Soto (UD 10) in September, as he readies for Broner.

“Science would say your body is only supposed to go through so much but I feel amazing,” the resident of San Dimas, Calif. said. “I’m not diminished; this is the best I’ve ever felt. I’m talking about my heart. I wanted the world to see my heart.”

Mission accomplished, pal.

The fighter told me he feels overwhelmingly pleased to be able to provide for his wife, Neda, and child, a two-year-old girl named Raenah. Oh, another reason to dig Molina? He wanted a name that couldn’t be found in a gift-shop, on a key chain. Raenah…check.

Back to the fight; Molina knows the 29-1 (22 KOs) Broner is skilled. Some solid instincts, skills and athleticism. Hand speed, a notch better. Reflexes, probably born with a better batch…The personality, that doesn’t really put Molina off, though he does allow that the Cinci man can come off as “braggadocious.”

“I could care less about his antics outside the ring,” Molina told me. “It’s inside what he’s doing that I’m concerned with.” So no, he’s not marshaling negative energy, any sort of “hate” to get hyped for “AB.” He’s dealt with a trash-talker before, he told me, Hank Lundy, and actually, he doesn’t hold much fondness for Hank. “He’s the only guy I’ve fought who really I’d not be down with having dinner with after,” Molina told me because he didn’t like the way Lundy protested a stoppage loss (TKO 11) to Molina in 2010.

No, he says, there won’t be personal animus toward Broner affecting him on fight night. “I’ll be doing what my profession is, that’s fight. And to want to impress, might I be overly aggressive? No. If it does become that type of fight, going tit-for-tat, that’s to my advantage. My prediction for the fight is: I’m going to make it an uncomfortable place for him. He’ll have a game plan; I don’t want him to gain confidence.”

Molina has recently gotten to that place where his earnings as a prizefighter are allowing him some breathing room. The pride he feels at having gotten there and the gratitude he has for manager Al Haymon is considerable. He said he’s happy to have gotten to this place and doesn’t want to be leaving anytime soon. He’s been picked because Broner is being built back up to a place where he can headline shows as an undeniable A-side, after he was de-powered by Marcos Maidana at the end of 2013. Molina is a rung on a ladder, someone perceived to be not as tough as a Maidana but a hard out, someone who will make Broner work, be telegenic and give the viewers what they want. He thinks – tells me he knows – that he is more than that. I heard an extra measure of confidence, of determination, when he told me about the people who have moved on, who meant so much to him. I will be real damn curious to see if something I cannot measure, how Molina’s feelings for his grandpa and his best bud, touch him on fight night. If feelings translate into a physical manifestation, Broner might be in a mode a bit less braggadocious post-fight than of which we’ve been accustomed.


http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/382609-molina-ready-for-braggadocious-broner




AB hasnt said shyt this entire time leading up to the fight that can be construed as "trash talking" or being "braggadocious" in regards to John Molina Jr.. I love how the media keeps trying to force him into it and talking about it, and then when he FINALLY does say something, they're gonna be on some, "why cant he just be humble?" or "why cant he just be gracious?" type shyt:camby:



AB....finish Molina:ufdup:



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