9/30/2023: SHO PPV - Canelo vs Charlo (Undisputed Super Middleweight Championship)

[shopthatwrecks]

jermell got waaaay mo heart than mall..

mall should get one fight in retire...

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

This fight was an embarrassing cash grab and most of us knew it was from first announcement. And it was easy to see that that was Jermell was thinking during those press conferences and face off where there was zero energy from him. Problem is even if he tried it's clear Jermell doesn't have nearly the power, pop or speed he has at 154. Oh, and Canelo outclassed him. Derrick James has had a tough year. This one wasn't on him either.

 

[surv2syn]

Are idiots really saying Crawford can beat Canelo.

Who da fukk is you?

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

What you wrote is literally Bud in a nutshell, and he does it better than Canelo in that aspect. Crawford is a Top 5 counter puncher of all time IMO. Alot, and I mean alot of his KOs come from getting right inside the pocket aka the danger zone of an opponent and hitting precise counters. On top of using a punch that he never threw in the fight that takes opponents by surprise




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Look at this when he KOed Benevidez. He went right in the pocket with ultimate precision, with barely any opening. Canelo's wide punches when his feet are planted are a larger opening than what Bud is used to, which is a benefit to him

That's why I still think it'll be a close fight. But canelo is way harder to hit than he looks. He pretty much holds everyone under 20% landed. Great Head movement with a strong high guard. I think bud will give canelo a much tougher fight than Jermell. And he can definitely pull if off. But once again. Is bud good enough defensively to avoid taking a bomb at some point. We know about his offense. But between canelo and bud who's better defensively. Bud can be hit in those exchanges.

And Canelo comes from the lower weight classes too so he's used to dealing with that type of handspeed. Lara, trout, and Khan all had a tough time catching him clean. He's not a big guy who's never seen those type of reflexes before. So its gonna be tough for bud. But if he fights perfect, it's possible.

 

[Black Miller]

Overall it was a decent card. I picked canelo to win by late stoppage cause I felt the extra weight would make jermell sluggish but he felt power early became gunshy and only tried to survive.

Ugas definitely at the end and they should have stopped that fight earlier. Go ahead and get a send off fight and retire. Barrios earned a few more paydays with that one. Ugas eye ain't the same and it was sad to see that.

The lubin vs Ramos was interesting to me. I felt lubin was boxing well but not throwing enough initially in the early to mid rounds. I do think Ramos clearly lost the last 4 rounds or so and that puts you at risk on the cards. I bet $40 on a lubin upset and came away with $120 on that so I can't complain. But I thought the fight was closer and Ramos could have edged it.

Would love to see canelo vs Andrade/benavidez winner. I don't think Bud should move up to 168 but when someone asking for it you give them what they want. Jermell asked for it and he received it.

Bud got the skill to win but I think 21 pounds is too much especially vs a dude who has a granite chin and power. It's hard to avoid canelo for 12 rounds. He eventually gonna land something clean and powerful.

 

[Megadeus]

Who are the weaker fighters? because Canelo only took 2 L's and it was to a light heavyweight and one of the greatest of all time.

Translation: "I have no answer for this"

Man I said pieced up, out boxed AND handed L's.

We watched him get fxcked up and lose rounds and be picked apart by numerous fighters who are less physical than him. Yes, Bivol nd Floyd included. Is Lara some roughneck heavy hitting brawler? Or did he box dudes ears off? Was Bivol ragdolling him around the ring or was he boxing his ears off? We all know Floyd boxed the dogshyt outta him. Even frail azz Plant was frustrating him at times.

All I'm saying is Idk why certain ppl are acting like you need to lay his azz smooth the fxck out in order to have any shot at beating him.

 

[surv2syn]

Yall on hard narcotics and blinded by standom if you think Crawford is going to go from 147 to 168 and smoke Canelo. if he had the power to make a top super middle get off him he would be the Wilder of his weight class essentially. And Canelo chin is godly anyway

So he would have to win like 10 rounds sincs judges gift Canelo 3 of them shyts off gp. He is not beating him and itll be another goofy ass fight this dude takes (Canelo) to dodge Benavides

RJJ put on 25 lbs and went up and beat Ruiz. Let’s not act like Ruiz wasn’t shyt. Why y’all think someone gotta knock someone out or hurt them to win? Floyd gave him a boxing LESSON. Canelo wasn’t muscle-ing Mell, Mell was initiating all the clinches. All Canelo did was load up and stalk Mell. He ain’t doubt that shyt to a real boxer with real defense who can score with a variety of punches. Mell was even throwing in the first few rounds. I thought he would do better but after the first 90 sec I knew he was gonna lose. No jab, slow, no body work.

 

[surv2syn]

Man I said pieced up, out boxed AND handed L's.

We watched him get fxcked up and lose rounds and be picked apart by numerous fighters who are less physical than him. Yes, Bivol nd Floyd included. Is Lara some roughneck heavy hitting brawler? Or did he box dudes ears off? Was Bivol ragdolling him around the ring or was he boxing his ears off? We all know Floyd boxed the dogshyt outta him. Even frail azz Plant was frustrating him at times.

All I'm saying is Idk why certain ppl are acting like you need to lay his azz smooth the fxck out in order to have any shot at beating him.

Remember Trout?

 

[patscorpio]

i will say canelo def deserves to go up the p4p rankings since he beat a top p4p guy

 

[UpAndComing]

That's why I still think it'll be a close fight. But canelo is way harder to hit than he looks. He pretty much holds everyone under 20% landed. Great Head movement with a strong high guard. I think bud will give canelo a much tougher fight than Jermell. And he can definitely pull if off. But once again. Is bud good enough defensively to avoid taking a bomb at some point. We know about his offense. But between canelo and bud who's better defensively. Bud can be hit in those exchanges.

And Canelo comes from the lower weight classes too so he's used to dealing with that type of handspeed. Lara, trout, and Khan all had a tough time catching him clean. He's not a big guy who's never seen those type of reflexes before. So its gonna be tough for bud. But if he fights perfect, it's possible.

Canelo does get hit clean though, not all the time but he for sure does.

The path for victory for Crawford is to play the counter-punching matador. Use an opponent's aggression against them. The worst thing you can do to Crawford is to walk him down. The thing with Crawford is that he is elite at stalling your offense by taking away your jab, or make you pay for using your jab. It's even about if Crawford can hurt Canelo. It's about frustrating Canelo where he can not get his offense going. And by Crawford stalling your offense, it makes you become over-aggressive to start your offense and there's his opening to counter you relentlessly. Canelo will not be able to walk Crawford down

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

 

[surv2syn]

That's why I still think it'll be a close fight. But canelo is way harder to hit than he looks. He pretty much holds everyone under 20% landed. Great Head movement with a strong high guard. I think bud will give canelo a much tougher fight than Jermell. And he can definitely pull if off. But once again. Is bud good enough defensively to avoid taking a bomb at some point. We know about his offense. But between canelo and bud who's better defensively. Bud can be hit in those exchanges.

And Canelo comes from the lower weight classes too so he's used to dealing with that type of handspeed. Lara, trout, and Khan all had a tough time catching him clean. He's not a big guy who's never seen those type of reflexes before. So its gonna be tough for bud. But if he fights perfect, it's possible.

Bud’s defense is Whitaker-esk. He just doesn’t fight like that because he had to become a puncher to become popular. So he sits on his punches and takes chance to get his shyt off. If he didn’t want to Canelo couldn’t touch him but people would say it was boring or he ran all night and he don’t want to win like that I don’t think. Canelo was hard for Mell to hit because he wasn’t countering. Just waiting for Canelo to cover up so he could throw some weak ass shots

 

[surv2syn]

Canelo does get hit clean though, not all the time but he for sure does.

The path for victory for Crawford is to play the counter-punching matador. Use an opponent's aggression against them. The worst thing you can do to Crawford is to walk him down. The thing with Crawford is that he is elite at stalling your offense by taking away your jab, or make you pay for using your jab. It's even about if Crawford can hurt Canelo. It's about frustrating Canelo where he can not get his offense going. And by Crawford stalling your offense, it makes you become over-aggressive to start your offense and there's his opening to counter you relentlessly. Canelo will not be able to walk Crawford down

excellent breakdown

 

[surv2syn]

I posted this mid fight. I said Bud don’t want to fight that chump. Why fight a guy Canelo washed?

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]