4/16 PBC on SHO PPV: Errol Spence vs Yordenis Ugas (WBC, WBA, IBF Welterweight Titles unification)

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Black_Jesus

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It depends on crawford power and timing… spence has been able to do whatever he wants cuz he hasn’t respected anyones power and he’s just stronger and bigger then anyone.
That's the thing.. We know Crawford has the power and timing.. We know Crawford will make adjustments if something isn't working... Spence didn't respect Mikey power.. With Danny and Ugas he did.. its was just their fighting styles that plays into Spence advantages because they like to wait n wait on a counter punch.. both of them hurt or buzzed Spence at certain points in the fight but they chose not to follow up or go in for the kill.. Crawford won't make that mistake an has proven when he sees blood he getting you TF outa there... Spence not gonna be able to just do whatever he wants to a guy with that many layers to his game.. Bud makes Floyd like adjustments off the cuff during all his fights
 

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Thought Ugas fought scared given the success he was having when he let his hands go
His right hand and body work seemed to bother Spence early but once Spence turned up the work rate ugas abandoned his offense and just became a shelled up punching bag
Wise we could seen ugas push Spence a lil bit and force him to show another wrinkle in his game before a potential Bud fight but Spence had a lot of success just applying pressure and wearing ugas down like he does most of his opponents
 

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@ me during the fight :ufdup: a small 25 dollar wager the 1 month ban bet will do you in worse than the wager. It will give you sometime to think about you bad decision making and casualness of boxing. If it's a stoppage or KO we should up the ban to 6 months.
 

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He threw the fight. I went through the thread and i noticed it was ignored how Ugas almost knocked EJ the fukk out and let him off the hook. That won't be talked a out enough but please believe Buds camp saw it. Real boxing heads saw it

He didn't have enough gas in the tank and couldn't see an opening.

Boxing isn't a video game that awards you with certain perks when hurting an opponent.

You still take damage, you still have to worry about emptying your clip. Just look at Joshua v Ruiz.
 

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If Ugas threw the fight then Luke Campbell definitely threw his fight with Ryan Garcia cuz he actually dropped dude and refused to jump on him. :mjlol:

Ugas just did what he always does. This time it was against an elite prime boxer who wasn't going to let him get away with that bare minimum shyt.

That nikka got pure sparring partner mentality in his blood.
 

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Because Spence knew Mikey couldnt hurt him is why he could do that.. My point is he "boxed with" a blown up lightweight instead of stopping him because Spence don't know how to set up the stoppage as I explained.. there aren't any adjustments at all.. Spence will just try to break his opponent down with relentless pressure. I dont believe that will work vs Crawford..
Worked when Mean Machine applied pressure and dropped him.
 

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Statistically EJ is the most accurate puncher at 147, so that's moot.

I needed to know if Errol could get back the stamina he had pre Mikey Garcia fight, and it looks like he did.

Spence is an awful matchup for Terrence Crawford and I don't think anyone is really talking about that. EJ fights on the inside and mid range with an impeccable workrate that makes it so his opponents are never given an opportunity to think, and when a fighter tries to create distance to work from the outside he's constantly coming forward. He's a stylistic nightmare for any pure boxer, in just about any era. Typically when you see a pure boxer/counter puncher, their kyrptonite is always a guy who comes forward at a constant workrate. Now throw EJ in there with his tools, plus size and strength advantage, who is a complete boxer himself (but doesn't like to show that style often) and you have the perfect recipe for defeating someone like a Terrence Crawford. On top of the fact Terrence seems to be slowing down a little bit. I don't think the fight with Crawford goes the distance.
Spence might have the size advantage but strength could go either way. And bud has more one punch power. Let’s not forget bud was the first guy to actually knock porter out. And porter himself said Crawford was the biggest puncher he’s fought. Said he was effected by every big punch bud landed. And you could see that in the fight. Any time bud landed clean porter would get jolted.

So I think all the talk about Spence just walking through bud is far fetched. Spence has never been hit with a punch like bud’s. And it’s not as if we haven’t seen Spence get rocked multiple times. Even in this fight when ugas knocked out his mouthpiece. That wasn’t just a mistake. Spence lost his bearings for a brief moment. That sometimes happens to him when he gets rocked with a big shot . He seems to get confused for a second. He recovers nicely but if Crawford stuns him like that he’s gonna be in some serious shyt. Cause once bud smells blood he goes for the kill.

You say the kryptonite for a boxer-puncher is a great pressure fighter. But that goes both ways. Many good pressure fighters have taken L’s to slick boxers. But in this case bud is not only the slicker fighter but also the stronger fighter. He’s not gonna be running away from Spence. He’s gonna be right there in the pocket capitalizing on his mistakes. Ugas landed several big right hands on him early in this fight. If bud is able to land like that Spence is gonna get hurt. Neither of them have a “great” defense I would say. But Bud has better upper body movement. He’s better at ducking and countering at awkward angles. In both stances. Spence is a savage but I think overall that Crawford is more dynamic. He has faster hands. Faster feet. And the bigger punch. It’s possible that Spence could break him down if he’s able to withstand his punch. But I don’t see that happening. It’s still a 50-50 fight in the grand scheme of things. Bud can be hit. And he can be stunned too. So neither outcome would surprise me. But just going off everything I’ve seen from both fighters I see Crawford taking Spence out late with razor cheap counters.
 

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And I would put my money on Spence beating Crawford.

The problem with Crawford is that his work isn't clean. When Mayeather outboxed an opponent, it was done in a way that was easy to judge.

Punches were clearly missed and punches land cleanly.

At minimum, I see him getting outworked. There is also the possibility that Spence's body work will force him into survival mode.

Much as people talk about Crawford's ability to adapt, you need to have the gas to be effective.
 

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That's the thing.. We know Crawford has the power and timing.. We know Crawford will make adjustments if something isn't working... Spence didn't respect Mikey power.. With Danny and Ugas he did.. its was just their fighting styles that plays into Spence advantages because they like to wait n wait on a counter punch.. both of them hurt or buzzed Spence at certain points in the fight but they chose not to follow up or go in for the kill.. Crawford won't make that mistake an has proven when he sees blood he getting you TF outa there... Spence not gonna be able to just do whatever he wants to a guy with that many layers to his game.. Bud makes Floyd like adjustments off the cuff during all his fights
Power and timing yet one leg Jose Benavidez hit Crawford with slow ass straight rights all night long for 12 rounds. Lol. Crawford has looked excellent against flakes for the last 4 years. That won't be the case against Spence at all.
 

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Hopefully the business behind the scenes gets done, because it's obvious both fighters want this fight. Painfully obvious.
And I'm optimistic it will happen

And when it does, I have to come clean, the more skilled fighter is gonna win. They usually do in mega bouts. And Bud is the more skilled fighter without a doubt.

It's gonna be a tall task to see how Spence would be able to work his way on the inside, because Crawford's foot movement, lateral quickness, and counter punching all combined into one fighter is something Spence hasn't seen. The closest to that, was Porter, and Crawford is a clean level above that.
He won't just default to standing in the middle of the ring with a high guard as Ugas did last night, and as alot of Spences competition has. That is literally the single biggest recipe for disaster against a fighter like Spence. Who has the most elite inside game in 147 for sure, and possibly the sport as a whole.
Bud is usually slow out the gate, so how effective Spence is at working the body in the early rounds will be a major factor in dictating how the rest of the fight goes.

Of course, any thing can happen in there, and Bud can get caught up in a machismo battle with Spence, but styles make fights. I just don't think this is a good style for Spence. I would have Crawford UD
 
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