4/16 PBC on SHO PPV: Errol Spence vs Yordenis Ugas (WBC, WBA, IBF Welterweight Titles unification)

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This all sounds well and good. But you’re talking as if we haven’t already seen Spence in extremely close fights with brook and porter. Brook and Spence were pretty much trading rounds until spence broke him down. We’ve also seen porter go blow for blow with spence and even buzz him. So I’m not understanding this idea that he’s gonna completely overwhelm Crawford.

You ask how is bud gonna respond when he doesn’t have time to think. Bud has always shown that he’s one of the quickest thinkers in the sport. Which is why the majority of his knockouts come when guys try to rush him. That’s where bud thrives. If anything Spence is the one who’s gonna have to make adjustments. Errol Spence’s whole style plays right into Bud’s hands. A non stop pressure fighter with a leaky defense. Come on now. That’s why bud been chasing this fight for years. How is Errol Spence gonna respond when he’s facing a guy who’s making him pay for all that wild lunging he does?

This is gonna be the first fight in Spence’s career where he’s gonna be facing somebody with more athleticism. Faster hands. Faster feet. Just as strong. Just as smart. And even smarter.

You ever wonder why porter felt so comfortable standing toe to toe with Spence but Crawford had him gunshy?....Porter landed 179 punches on Spence in 12 rounds while only landing 79 on bud in 10. Porter threw 350 punches vs bud but threw 750 against Spence. Porter is usually around 700 punches thrown in all of his biggest fights. That’s his MO. matter of fact Shawn Porter and Errol Spence have very similar work rates. And bud essentially cut Shawn’s punch output by 50%.

Why do you think that is?…..why do you think Shawn knew he could press spence in a way he never dared to do with bud?…..maybe because bud is a better puncher?….has faster hands?….better ring iq?….this is what bud does to pressure fighters. He makes them timid. Errol Spence doesn’t know how to be timid. Which means he’s gonna be doing the same head first lunging shyt with bud and he’s gonna end up walking into something. You guys still don’t understand just how special bud really is. Spence hasn’t seen anything remotely close to his skill set.

And that’s not to say spence can’t win. Cause he’s special too. But the way some of y’all are acting like bud is gonna be a deer in headlights is hilarious. Dude has been ready for this moment. There’s a reason Spence said out of his own he wanted to collect all the pbc belts first then go after Crawford last. Cause him Derrick James both know bud is a whole different breed than the rest of them dudes.
Head first lunging? i havent seen that.

I don't really agree with your assessment of Porter vs crawford/spence. I think they both had different game plans, and both were tested by Porter. Both men knocked Porter down, only one was able to finish it and really that was because of a very strange stoppage by Kenny Porter.

We will have to see what happens
 
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Crawford training with that steroid guy.


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Finding this hard to call, prolly just due to allegiance. Followed Spence since the Olympics, but have followed Ugas since the Jamal James fight where he was cast off and expected to lose. Ugas hasn't truly lost in 6 years. But away from that, stylistically this fight favors Ugas. He wants to sit back and counter, he wants you to generate offense for him. Spence can box a bit on his back foot but he's not super elusive doing that. He's going to do what he always does, pump the great jab, go to the body, high workrate. I think truly the onus is on Ugas, because the rounds will be close and Spence will throw his 60-70 punches per round and Ugas will sit at his 40 and the rounds will be close, most likely going Spence's way. Ugas has to make a splash, and opening up more might give Spence the opportunities that he wants. Feels like a MD kind of fight. Spence hasn't stopped a top opponent since 2017(Lamont was a blown up Welter). Excited.

But also, the Stanionis-Butaev fight is interesting. Can't call it. Haven't really watched too much of Butaev so I'm more familiar with Stanionis ,but that performance against Jamal James was impressive.
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This all sounds well and good. But you’re talking as if we haven’t already seen Spence in extremely close fights with brook and porter. Brook and Spence were pretty much trading rounds until spence broke him down. We’ve also seen porter go blow for blow with spence and even buzz him. So I’m not understanding this idea that he’s gonna completely overwhelm Crawford.

You ask how is bud gonna respond when he doesn’t have time to think. Bud has always shown that he’s one of the quickest thinkers in the sport. Which is why the majority of his knockouts come when guys try to rush him. That’s where bud thrives. If anything Spence is the one who’s gonna have to make adjustments. Errol Spence’s whole style plays right into Bud’s hands. A non stop pressure fighter with a leaky defense. Come on now. That’s why bud been chasing this fight for years. How is Errol Spence gonna respond when he’s facing a guy who’s making him pay for all that wild lunging he does?

This is gonna be the first fight in Spence’s career where he’s gonna be facing somebody with more athleticism. Faster hands. Faster feet. Just as strong. Just as smart. And even smarter.

You ever wonder why porter felt so comfortable standing toe to toe with Spence but Crawford had him gunshy?....Porter landed 179 punches on Spence in 12 rounds while only landing 79 on bud in 10. Porter threw 350 punches vs bud but threw 750 against Spence. Porter is usually around 700 punches thrown in all of his biggest fights. That’s his MO. matter of fact Shawn Porter and Errol Spence have very similar work rates. And bud essentially cut Shawn’s punch output by 50%.

Why do you think that is?…..why do you think Shawn knew he could press spence in a way he never dared to do with bud?…..maybe because bud is a better puncher?….has faster hands?….better ring iq?….this is what bud does to pressure fighters. He makes them timid. Errol Spence doesn’t know how to be timid. Which means he’s gonna be doing the same head first lunging shyt with bud and he’s gonna end up walking into something. You guys still don’t understand just how special bud really is. Spence hasn’t seen anything remotely close to his skill set.

And that’s not to say spence can’t win. Cause he’s special too. But the way some of y’all are acting like bud is gonna be a deer in headlights is hilarious. Dude has been ready for this moment. There’s a reason Spence said out of his own he wanted to collect all the pbc belts first then go after Crawford last. Cause him Derrick James both know bud is a whole different breed than the rest of them dudes.

It's always been a 50/50 fight

but lets be real, Spence let success get to his head and started to slack off, he barely trained for Mikey, he didn't have the conditioning to fight the pressure style that's why he didn't fukk him badly

He waited until the last minute to cut weight against Shawn Porter. He though it was gonna be easy he wasn't preparing like he was before, and even admitted after the accident he had been slacking off. Meaning While Shawn Porter was expecting Spence vs Peterson version, but got a less dynamic spence, who didn't have the condition to employ the punishing body attack he used on Ugas. Yet he still beat these guys without taking in real punishment

He came back and Fought Danny, after the accident, still wasn't the same spence who we last seen against Peterson with the relentless pressure and body attack, but he beat him up pretty bad just boxing from the outside, I mean we still haven't seen Danny in the ring since, after the fight it looked like he aged 10 years he was beat up pretty bad.

Crawford is the dog of dogs, I knew he would KO Porter because Porter doesn't have the reach to really get close to Porter to employ his normal football style, Spence chose to fight him like that he could've boxed him from the outside and made the fight different, Porter even admits this on his podcast.

But Porter wasn't in the same shape, which is why his father stopped the fight, he knew his son wasn't prepared to fight after being knocked down twice he wasn't really hurt from punishment he didn't have the conditioning to continue, he would've really been hurt if he didn't stop the fight, it was only going to get worst from there. I mean you can look at Porter's body during the Spence fight camp, he was in the best shape we ever seen him, they was going hard, and a drained Spence still beat him at his own game.

All this said, it's a 50/50 fight, because Bud is the truth, the man is strong has a heavyweight physically, insane strength for his size, I'm not talking punching power, his boxing IQ is great, but not his defense. At 140 he could use lateral movement to stay out of range for punches, he never had to fight somebody like Spence who can cut the ring off and apply pressure.

AT same time Bud's timing is one makes him so dangerous, he's KO come from timing and precision not from power.

Kell Brook was beating Bud and he fukked up his eye, cut him, had it on swole, Spence never been cut in a fight so he's defense is obviously better, Crawford is an accurate puncher, he landed a perfect punch on Kell Brook's eye socket to end that fight, you can say Kell Brook was compromised, but to deliver an accurate punch right like that, having him walk into the punch, it was incredible

So people should just be happy we get to the witness the greatest fight for all time and it is taking place in OUR ERA, somebody has to keep talking about old ass Hagler Hearns, which wasn't even a great fight Hearns came out swinging and got KO'd, Leonard and Hearns was the epic bout

But I have a feeling this fight not leave up to expectations and be more like Leonard Vs Hagler, only even more boring because Spence and Crawford will be having the ultimate chess match, but because of their personalities it can easily evolve into the most sophisticated brawl we have ever seen and end in a devastating KO, because they don't want to lose, someone will have to get KO, I don't imagine them playing itself, unless one proves to be that much of a superior technician

I don't think Crawford can survive 12 rounds of a properly conditioned Erroll Spence delivering his signature vicious body attack
however, I don't think Erroll Spence will be willing to apply that type of game plan against Crawford, because Crawford can delivery accurate hard to see short punches that can seriously hurt because you walk into them or plain don't see them

So the fight will be like Floyd Vs Manny just with more action, and only their egos will push it into the realm of greatness when they decided to go for all the glory
 

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By saying Crawford can deliver short Beterbiev type punches that hurt Spence..that's suggesting he will try to inside fight with Spence..mean machine dropped this guy. He better fought on the outside or he'll get hurt in ways you've never seen him get hurt.
 
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