Makes sense to me! Sometimes you let yourself get socked in the eye repeatedly so you can stop fighting
4/16 PBC on SHO PPV: Errol Spence vs Yordenis Ugas (WBC, WBA, IBF Welterweight Titles unification)
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Makes sense to me! Sometimes you let yourself get socked in the eye repeatedly so you can stop fighting
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Mayweather was a midget with brittle hands in his 4th/5th division.. he could easily set up knockouts.. Spence don't know how to do it. Thats the difference.. Spence aint anymore relentless than Porter just has more power... Bud ain't gonna just stand there in the high guard waiting like Spence last 2 opponents.. And the Porter v Spence fight was very close wtf fight you was watching?? He looked horrible vs someone not just shelling up or trying to survive
But Spence boxed with Mickey Garcia. So, which is it? Why can’t Spence fight the fight he needs to fight and adjust?
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Because Spence knew Mikey couldnt hurt him is why he could do that.. My point is he "boxed with" a blown up lightweight instead of stopping him because Spence don't know how to set up the stoppage as I explained.. there aren't any adjustments at all.. Spence will just try to break his opponent down with relentless pressure. I dont believe that will work vs Crawford..
MustafaSTL
Achievement In Every Field of Human Endeavor
This fight belongs in Vegas.
After the Peterson fight I learned that u cannot just let spence just land on u at will, Peterson face swoll really bad after that fight.
spence is just too big and strong for the guys at 147… how much is his walk around wieght.
spence is just too big and strong for the guys at 147… how much is his walk around wieght.
It depends on crawford power and timing… spence has been able to do whatever he wants cuz he hasn’t respected anyones power and he’s just stronger and bigger then anyone.
I’m in Mexico right now and caught this fight last night, it’s free over here… was this ppv in the states?
AlbertPullhoez
The Takeover
Yes
yes $75
OGBobbyJohnson
Veteran
He spars heavyweights I think
Dominant performance from Errol. I was a bit unsure at first because Ugas is a good counter puncher and Spence at times leaves himself open but after round 3, I was confident that he would put more and more damage on Ugas. Everything went well but that lapse of judgement with the mouthpiece though... Good thing he acknowledged it was his own fault and hopefully he stays focused against Bud.
In a fight against him, I see several little issues that could be exploited :
- that naked left, I hope he never throws it because he often ends up off balance. Man put everything in it like he's pitching and it looks bad when he misses.
- the way he dips low at times to evade but somehow still has his head open. Bud is good and accurate with uppercuts
- footwork a bit heavy at times and I think bud is far more versatile there and he could catch Spence
- did I see Errol not liking his body touched in rounds 8 or 9 ? Not sure but I feel he was reacting weirdly to some of those.
Otherwise, I don't think Bud can hang on the inside with Errol and his pressure. Bud is great at countering but not necessarily at fighting backwards. He sure will try to go toe to toe though because we know he gets hot at times. I'd say if Crawford manages to keep the fight at mid range he can easily outbox Errol otherwise I dont see how Spence loses. Anyway, can't wait.
Very good card overall. Just a shame there were so many shot fighters taking beatings before the main event :
- Crowley could have tried and go for the KO but he seemed content with the UD. Lopez had moments but after 20 years, he needs to retire.
- Vargas needs to retire
- Gamboa needs to retire too, he's officially at like 21 KDs in his whole career smh. Cruz is building a nice following to him on the other hand, I really would like to see a fight with Garcia and how the latter will deal with those murderous overhands.
In a fight against him, I see several little issues that could be exploited :
- that naked left, I hope he never throws it because he often ends up off balance. Man put everything in it like he's pitching and it looks bad when he misses.
- the way he dips low at times to evade but somehow still has his head open. Bud is good and accurate with uppercuts
- footwork a bit heavy at times and I think bud is far more versatile there and he could catch Spence
- did I see Errol not liking his body touched in rounds 8 or 9 ? Not sure but I feel he was reacting weirdly to some of those.
Otherwise, I don't think Bud can hang on the inside with Errol and his pressure. Bud is great at countering but not necessarily at fighting backwards. He sure will try to go toe to toe though because we know he gets hot at times. I'd say if Crawford manages to keep the fight at mid range he can easily outbox Errol otherwise I dont see how Spence loses. Anyway, can't wait.
Very good card overall. Just a shame there were so many shot fighters taking beatings before the main event :
- Crowley could have tried and go for the KO but he seemed content with the UD. Lopez had moments but after 20 years, he needs to retire.
- Vargas needs to retire
- Gamboa needs to retire too, he's officially at like 21 KDs in his whole career smh. Cruz is building a nice following to him on the other hand, I really would like to see a fight with Garcia and how the latter will deal with those murderous overhands.
Tommy Gibbs
Superstar
The Crawford/Spence fight is winnable for both guys. If Crawford boxes from the outside and counterpunches spence, he can catch him and eventually stop him. At the same time, if Spence turns it into a phone booth fight, Crawford can't win that. Crawford is not a good infighter. We've seen him tagged, buzzed, hurt, and even knocked down by the likes of Gamboa, Diaz and the Mean Machine. Diaz is a southpaw like Spence and he was catching Crawford with the right hook from the southpaw stance as Crawford was also fighting lefty during the fight. This occured on the inside. At the same time, Spence is a sucker for a straight right hand. Kell Brook, Porter, and Ugas was landing them quite a bit. Neither guy are defensive wizards and get hit more than they should for their skill level.
Another thing I noticed about both guys is the scar tissue around their eyes reddens easily. Spence took a lot of punches tonight, and was bruised a bit, but Crawford took very little punches in his last fight with Brook and after the fight, tissue around his right eye lid was reddened and looked as if a cut would eventually open on it. He will be around 35 when this fight takes place and Spence is no spring chicken either. I would love to see them fight twice and if they split, a trilogy would be great. I just don't like boxing today. I'm from a different era. I'm from an era that super fights occurred when guys were in their 20s. De la Homo over a 4 year span from 96-2000 fought Camacho, Sweet Pea, Quartey, Trinidad, Mosley, and Chavez twice!!!! And that was from the ages of 23-27. These guys today are pros for 6 years and still haven't faced another top 10 guys. Hearns and Leaonrd were in their 20s and not even 5 years as a pro when they first met. They were atop the WW division and had only been pros for 4 years. Boxing is currently in a bad place with the promoters, 4 belts, and fighters protecting their undefeated record.
Another thing I noticed about both guys is the scar tissue around their eyes reddens easily. Spence took a lot of punches tonight, and was bruised a bit, but Crawford took very little punches in his last fight with Brook and after the fight, tissue around his right eye lid was reddened and looked as if a cut would eventually open on it. He will be around 35 when this fight takes place and Spence is no spring chicken either. I would love to see them fight twice and if they split, a trilogy would be great. I just don't like boxing today. I'm from a different era. I'm from an era that super fights occurred when guys were in their 20s. De la Homo over a 4 year span from 96-2000 fought Camacho, Sweet Pea, Quartey, Trinidad, Mosley, and Chavez twice!!!! And that was from the ages of 23-27. These guys today are pros for 6 years and still haven't faced another top 10 guys. Hearns and Leaonrd were in their 20s and not even 5 years as a pro when they first met. They were atop the WW division and had only been pros for 4 years. Boxing is currently in a bad place with the promoters, 4 belts, and fighters protecting their undefeated record.
reservoirdogs
Superstar
Seen ppl saying this, not to take anything away from ESJ cause he did what he had to and he really showed up but I don't think that he has gotten any better or worse, it's just Ugas offered less resistance than Porter or even Swift.
Ugas didn't change a thing on his game, he thought it's gonna be ok to let Spence all up in his kitchen, squatting behind a tall guard, throwing back every once in a while. I know it's his style but dude should have adjusted his tactics, at least once he seen it wasn't gonna work and he's being outworked.
Tommy Gibbs
Superstar
Gamboa actually was against the stoppage. I truly believe Gamboa wants to die in the ring. Imagine trying to explain to a boxing casual that Gamboa about 10 years ago was the best featherweight in the world. And since the Crawford fight, he's instantly been a guy that everyone wants as a name on their record. History will not be kind to him and people will forget how good he was. I can see him ending up like Pipino Cuevas.
btw, I was typing my other post the same time you were typing yours and we basically said the same thing
