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[WaveGang]

Elijah Muhammad was a member of the UNIA too I believe

Never been proven

But yeah I dropped gems ITT, I just hope it dont get lost in petty debates. Research Malcolms ventures in Africa!


you'll be interested to know malcolm spent 6 months in Africa and 3 weeks in mecca. but what have historians drawn more attention to? ask yourself why? This is where the true story of Malcolm X really opens up

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Word malcolm been to mecca two times prior to his historic hajj and seeing white muslims, lol.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

This is apparent when he was scheduled to visit France, French authorities wouldn't let him off the plane, GOVERNMENT authorities. one of Malcolms aids said 'at that point they knew there was a bigger threat than the NOI out there for malcolm.'

The whole reason Malcolm was killed was because the government wanted to be able to attach that to the Nation of Islam and deter people from joining the Nation.

They tried their best to attach the assassination of Malcolm to the Nation.... when the members of the Nation weren't even allowed to carry weapons.

Malcolm was tricked out of the Nation. Yes, there were government infiltrators, a LOT of them. And they got up in positions of power, and used their influence to get Malcolm thinking that he "should be the leader" and they kept pushing that on him, until he started to think they were right.

Then when the Honorable Elijah Muhammad sat him down for the comment regarding the assasination of JFK, his ego was in play by then.

He already felt that he should be in charge, and then to be sat down for 90 days??? That pushed him over the edge and he finally left.

And that's what the American government, FBI and all of them, were trying to make happen in the first place. Then once he got outside the Nation, they were free to do whatever they wanted to him...

Smh.

 

[CHILLL]

crazy light skin nikkas was carrying some weight back then

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

so you trying to tell me Fard Muhhamed wasn't a moor? ..... really son!!!! ..... you trying to tell me he wasn't a follower of Noble Drew Ali?????



smh...... and heres me thinking you were serious

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm telling you. I guess you believe the other false stories the FBI put out there on him too, huh?

 

[Blackking]

Yea I'm from London, I thought we only resulted to that old chest nut in rap/gang debates. Is knowledge of self only restricted to black americans now? You fishing

Anyone can see I'm well learnt in this subject

Heres the thread i made that got a ridiculous amount of replies

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/omowale-malcolm-x.238288/

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what he was doing OUTSIDE of the USA was under great obvservation by the CIA, not just what he was doing inside.

This is apparent when he was scheduled to visit France, French authorities wouldn't let him off the plane, GOVERNMENT authorities. one of Malcolms aids said 'at that point they knew there was a bigger threat than the NOI out there for malcolm.'

Research my brother and approach discussion without bias

do you remember i was one of the few posters who clicked the thread?, lol shyt was like hearing crickets.

anyway, London nikkas are funny style of the Diaspora so its neccessary to ask that when talking politics, history, hip hop, or fashion.



and i have no bias or dogg in this fight.

I agree the Enemy of Malcom x was way bigger than the NOI.


I also know Malcolm apologized eventually.

 

[BigMan]

so.....am i supposed to throw Malcolm X to the bushes?

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Never been proven

But yeah I dropped gems ITT, I just hope it dont get lost in petty debates. Research Malcolms ventures in Africa!

This is when the true story of Malcolm X really opens up

Breh, the message of the thread already been lost. For whatever reason on this site you can't have a positive discussion about black men without having to tear other black men down in the process.

 

[WaveGang]

The whole reason Malcolm was killed was because the government wanted to be able to attach that to the Nation of Islam and deter people from joining the Nation.

Are you really at liberty to make that statement with ZERO knowledge of Malcolms ventures and political affiliations in Africa?

come on bra, smh. RESEARCH!

 

[Nemesis]

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm telling you. I guess you believe the other false stories the FBI put out there on him too, huh?

wow....standard text book reply..... i didn't expect any different,,

Im gonna be real with you, every and I mean every NOI cat that I personally know or ever met ALWAYS without fail try to low-key shyt on Malcolm and Khalid.....

I've never understood it, no one is taking away from the achievements of the NOI but it always seems to bother them that Malcolm and Khalid resonated with people ....

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

I'm saying. I read that part like "wait, don't everybody already know that "

Nah, breh, everybody don't know. You can go over there to the Malcolm/MLK thread, and everybody is upping Malcolm talking about what Malcolm this and Malcolm that.... and not a mention at all of Elijah Muhammad, the one that Malcolm was getting all his orders from.

Don't hate on the spread of knowledge, breh.

 

[Blackking]

No, breh, but I do want us to stop giving him the credit that belongs to another man.

When Malcolm was in the Nation and had decided to really follow the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, of course he did a lot of great things.... OF COURSE.

But Malcolm wasn't the only minister that was helping the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. There was Minister James Shabazz, Minister Lonnie Shabazz, there was Minister Farrakhan, there was Minister Abdul Karim.

All I'm saying is, let's put everything in context here.

the reason the Nation made such unlimited process was because it wasn't a "democracy". It was a dictatorship, in the sense of: One man made all the decisions.

The Honorable Elijah Muhammad was the one making the decisions, and when people didn't follow his orders, and it got back to him... he put them out.

But that was the reason the Nation made so much process. There wasn't any committees and a bunch of meetings before they made a move.

It was just Elijah Muhammad's word, and they moved on that - PERIOD.

i give both credit.


had black americans not choses the Church Over Elijah....... we'd be better off.

It's not even like they were trying to get everyone to be Muslims................ They just wanted us all to be pro black and pull our resources together.

 

[Blackking]

wow....standard text book reply..... i didn't expect any different,,

Im gonna be real with you, every and I mean every NOI cat that I personally know or ever met ALWAYS without fail try to low-key shyt on Malcolm and Khalid.....

I've never understood it, no one is taking away from the achievements of the NOI but it always seems to bother them that Malcolm and Khalid resonated with people ....

lol

well, it's not ALL of Them that do this.

but it is funny when you hear it, because they have that slick way of talking that it doesn't even sound like a diss AT all.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm telling you. I guess you believe the other false stories the FBI put out there on him too, huh?

are you so sure buddy? wiki and them sources you are basing your stupid facts are bullshyt..have you read the FBI file on their supposed so called wd fard? if so, then tell me the parts where it contradicts and flips so much that its laughable..even the folks who researched on him laughed at the fbi file..don't come in here and state you know this and that..you don't know jack!
put it to bed..

btw to the malcolm debaters..i have built with his eldest daughter and the grandson who is now dead, RIP Brother Malcolm Shabazz..there's so much you and the public don't know about this great man, a great speaker and leader..
Malcolm owes and knew that Elijah woke him up and gave him a new life..he made him in that sense..

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

so you trying to tell me Fard Muhhamed wasn't a moor? ..... really son!!!! ..... you trying to tell me he wasn't a follower of Noble Drew Ali?????



smh...... and heres me thinking you were serious

Where did NOI get this Jacob the big head scientist BS from and that all white men are the devil. That has nothing to do with the muslim religion and thats why the real muslims dont take them seriously.