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The Honorable Elijah Muhammad 
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- Thread starter Neo. The Only. The One.
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Was it confirmed that he knew though? Or was it just X being salty over Elijah puttin him in timeout for not being loyal and goin too far so he wanted to do his own thing?
Who set him up to get smoked though? You think Elijah made the call?
Cats in here shyttin on Malcolm like they lived the times and knew him 
this place is the twilight zone
this place is the twilight zone
this threads bs, his teachings didnt all come from elijah muhammad
Malcolm Xs father was a member of Marcus Garveys UNIA. he travelled around America setting up different chapters, his mum was a member too.
X was up on game before he got down withe the NOI. learn your history folks
Xs teachings mirrored Garveyism, what ultimately got him killed was his connections with African leaders.
Malcolm Xs father was a member of Marcus Garveys UNIA. he travelled around America setting up different chapters, his mum was a member too.
X was up on game before he got down withe the NOI. learn your history folks
Xs teachings mirrored Garveyism, what ultimately got him killed was his connections with African leaders.
ReturnOfJudah
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Elijah Muhammad wasnt nothing but another white man misguiding black folks for monetary gain. And skeeting in the same "sistas" he was suppose to be teaching/protecting. Instead of feeding the flock, he was fukking the flock. He is no different from the shady preachers out today.
Neo. The Only. The One.
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Breh, no offense, but this is the type of stuff I'm talking about.
What you just said IS NOT TRUE.
Malcolm didn't train up nobody to protect the Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
Malcolm HIMSELF got trained!
It wasn't Malcolm's idea to create Muhammad Speaks. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad had already been putting his articles in black newspapers before Malcolm ever even came on the scene.
In fact, the Pittsburgh Courier at one time had the highest circulation out of all the black newspapers. Why? Because it had Elijah Muhammad's articles in it, and his followers and supporters were buying it.
People try to give Malcolm credit for this, but the Nation made it's most significant progress after Malcolm and the people that was with Malcolm LEFT the Nation.
Malcolm was upset because, and this is gonna make a lot of ppl mad.... but dude was still a hustler at heart.
He tried to do better and the teachings was making him better, but when it came down to it, he reverted to his old ways.
Now before y'all get mad at me and think I'm lying, then tell me this:
What else explains the fact that he went out there and lied to the media and told them that he didn't know ANYTHING about white Muslims until he went to Mecca..... when the truth of the matter was, he had went over there years before that with the Honorable Elijah Muhammad?
Malcolm had his own agenda, and when it came down to it and he thought he could do his own thing, he went out there and tried to do it....
He incorrectly assumed that he was the one making something happen with the Nation... He thought it was going to fall apart after he left.
But it didnt.
And then after he left and he saw that the Nation was carrying on with business as usual, he got mad and tried to go out there and talk trash about the Nation.
Why?
Malcolm was an opportunist. I bet you, the white media was more inclined to put mics in front of him when he was talking trash about Elijah Muhammad, then when he wasn't.... and he knew that.
"Its like the disciples dissing Jesus becoming his rivals
Shunning the one thing that they owe their life to
You let that man hype you to go against your idol"
- Jay Z, "Dig a hole"
Field Marshall Bradley
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I'm looking at the thread about Malcolm and MLK and and it's amazing to me just how many of us don't know our history.
Y'all in there talking about "Malcolm taught this and Malcolm taught that".
Brehs, the only thing Malcolm was teaching (at leastwhat he is most famously known for) is what Elijah Muhammad taught HIM.
Elijah Muhammad woke Malcolm up. If any of ya'll had encountered Malcolm before he was taught by Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm would have bust one of you nikkas upside the head, took your money, and ran off into the night.
Malcolm didn't become what he was until he sat at the feet of Elijah Muhammad and learned from him.
Elijah Muhammad made Malcolm, and then Malcolm turned his back on him.
Ya'll talk about disloyalty. That was the most disloyal thing in the world.
Ya'll talk that stuff about, "Malcolm went to Mecca and saw white muslims" when the truth is:
Malcolm had went to Mecca WITH Elijah Muhammad years before that (this is all verifiable if you just google) and he saw white muslims then.... but when he got in front of the cameras to tell his story of "being reborn", he somehow forgot to include that part.
Malcolm lied on Elijah Muhammad, because it was HIM that was jealous of Elijah Muhammad.
Malcolm started to feel that he should be the leader, and then he turned his back on Elijah Muhammad.
And before it was all over with, before he got killed, Malcolm admitted to Elijah Muhammad that he was wrong, and here's a recording of what he said:
Now if Elijah Muhammad was so "insane", then what would have been the point of Malcolm making this apology?
Nah, he realized at the end that he was a traitor, and then he decided that he wanted to get back, cause he realized that the American government was playing him.
If you want to talk about who the American government was afraid of, then look at the person they NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER mention:
And that person is Elijah Muhammad. They never mention Elijah Muhammad, like EVER. They try to pretend that he never existed.
Why?
Because Elijah Muhammad was the one that was actually doing something that they were afraid of then, and are afraid of to this very day.
Most of you people on this very site who claim to be so "militant" don't even know what Elijah Muhammad was doing, and what the Nation of Islam accomplished under his leadership.
I'm not talking about no Farrakhan.
I'm talking about Elijah Muhammad.
This man built banks for us, supermarkets, grocery stores, office buildings, schools all over this country. He was teaching black people to clean up and to live righteous, Godly lives.
Elijah Muhammad is the one who taught us that we're not negroes, and that we're black.
Even Jesse Jackson admitted that. Back in the day when black folks were happy to be called negroes, Elijah Muhammad was teaching us that we're not negroes, and that we're black.
All of us out here are reaping the rewards TO THIS DAY of what Elijah Muhammad taught, and most of us don't even know that it came from him.
That man was the Messenger of Allah.
Well Godamn.....
Neo. The Only. The One.
THE ONE
Yes, he was such an upstanding Garveyite before joining the Nation.
Malcolm was a crook before he joined the Nation. He admitted that himself.
What is with all of you revisionists in here? Still looking at our history through the lens of white people.
Malcolm x ... wasn't what you think before the noi.
He saw the white man for what he was but at one point admired white men... even Malcolm himself talked about perming his hair and saying.... "just like white folk"... and his dissed sistas for white women.
Plus he scammed nikkas non stop.
Im not even judging that... but lets not pretend that the NOI didn't wake him up. Lets not pretend that he didn't travel with elijah and learn maddd shyt.
Lets not pretend most of his ill shyt didn't start with the phrase " tge Honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us that"
Lets not be fake. I hyped X the most on here... but there is no need to be fake.
Lol, teaching garveism isnt what got bruh killed
Larry Lobster
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you didn't actually read what i said. ... For whatever reason you want to disagree with me and quote me when you can make a post somewhere else.
I said Malcolm trained the fruit. and some of them did help protect Elijah.
and I bruh.......... NOI been around since the 30's ... publishing shyt for a decades before Malcom started writing, so obviously they had material.......... but the format and the way it was put out eventually, Malcolm helped create that.
And i'm the first person on the site and Sohh to say that Malcolm Already knew about Elijah and about mecca......... so what exactly are you debating against.
Do you just want to Diss Malcolm and not give him credit for Anything AT ALL?
nothing to debate. im not saying he was a saint, im saying he was brought up in black empowerment, the same way 2pac was
Panafricanism got Malcolm killed. during the 6 months he spent in Africa the relations he built with leaders of africa particularly the president of tanzania who was assassinated a couple weeks after X. Research it, its too long to type
theres ALOT of X history that people dont know. i made a thread about it but it got about 4 replies