He's blackJohnny Storm is white. wtf
20th Century Fox quitely finally reveals Fantastic 4 Reboot movie cast
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What cacs are angry about this? Everywhere ive seen people are 
about the whole project and seem to agree that jordan is a good actor. If i had any complaints its that they are too young. Even if they get to a 3rd movie theyll still look like late 20s. Richards, sue and thing always seemed older to me and johnny just a little younger than them.
about the whole project and seem to agree that jordan is a good actor. If i had any complaints its that they are too young. Even if they get to a 3rd movie theyll still look like late 20s. Richards, sue and thing always seemed older to me and johnny just a little younger than them.
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so sue storm is white and human torch is black?
It makes no fukking sense.. there isn't any incarnation of Johnny Storm thats black. I'm all for progress, but leave comic book/cartoon characters alone.
The only reason this worked with Sam Jack/Nick Fury, is because the Ultimate incarnation of Nick Fury was black.. and quite frankly, he was more bad ass than 616's(regular marvel universe) Nick.
Bryan Danielson
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Yes..... But this was before they whole Marvel Universe thing ala Pre Ironman
Now say they intend to do a trilogy.... We can look at this franchise going to atleast to 2020.
I'm sure a BP movie will me made by F4 2, with both franchises in the spot light like that... And work schedule..... Dude ain't gonna be in both!!!
Now to Ryan Reynolds?? He was only Green Lantern breh...... Ben Afleck was Daredevil
The internet is about to swamped with "I'm not racist, but..." fanboy posts.
daemonova
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@rodimusprime 8m
Honestly if I was Fox I wouldn't even explain that they are different races. I wouldn't even address it. fukk it.
@rodimusprime 16m
Black Johnny Storm gonna be smoking whole plants of weed at a time and shyt. I can't wait for this movie.
Honestly if I was Fox I wouldn't even explain that they are different races. I wouldn't even address it. fukk it.
@rodimusprime 16m
Black Johnny Storm gonna be smoking whole plants of weed at a time and shyt. I can't wait for this movie.
What cacs are angry about this? Everywhere ive seen people are
They already did their complaining about it last year when he was announced. Enough of them got it out of their systems and then you have a lot of them who are down and have been down since day one. Dude is a good actor, let that man work
that shyt irks me. so damn much. That's the internet equivalent of "I'm not racists, my best friends are black"
so the only way Johnny being black is acceptable would be to have him black in the comics 
On the issue of race and casting in Superhero movies...
By Thomas Cunningham IVon July 21st, 2013 at 8:50pm· 2k saw this· 21+ people are talking
Much has been made of the rumors of cross racial casting for Johnny Storm in the forthcoming Fantastic Four reboot. Some have even raised the issue of casting mixed race actors (with wide crossover appeal) like Dwayne Johnson and Vin Diesel in roles created for more obviously(?) black actors. Inevitably, comments include some variation of,
"Well how would you feel if Black Panther was played by Chris Evans?"
SIGH. Notwithstanding the fact that it's already happened in Spawn, let's unpack that argument a little.
The old school superhero universes were a decidedly white, male club. In fact, the default expectation was that the characters would be white. So much so, that their whiteness wasn't even a consideration (until White Supremacy and other race hatred emerged as an actual motivating factor) in later years. If a title character was introduced, he (or rarely she) was white.
When Marvel started to introduce african-american characters, they were written with race in MIND. Power Man? He was LITERALLY a blaxploitation street smart tough guy with a heart of gold. One might consider him a version of DC's Wildcat with super strength and impenetrable skin.
Storm? She was an African (American) mutant weather goddess, specifically created for Dave Cockrum's new vision of a rainbow hued X-Men team (nothing like doubling down on prejudice against Minority Mutants). Brother Voodoo is another example of a character where their ethnic background is integrated into the core of their character.
And let's not forget Black Panther... A character so specifically designed to be inspirational that an entire country of super-smart, wealthy, advanced black people was introduced right along with him. (Side note: Similarly, the Japanese Sunfire, the native tribesman Thunderbird, Russian Colossus, Irish Banshee and (to a lesser extent) Wolverine all had cultural traits as major character points.)
On the other hand, there are characters who benefitted from societal trends, but whose race is less important. These are characters who shattered the default notion of whiteness and are just guys who happen to be black.
Of these, Falcon (Bucky's dead, let's give Captain America a black sidekick!) and War Machine (Hey, why not make Tony Stark's marginally black buddy a superhero?) are the best examples. Did War Machine really have to be black? I'd argue no. There's the back and forth reparté that Don Cheadle has boatloads of wry comedic talent, but there's no compelling script reason for his character to be black... not that played out in the movies anyway.
Sunspot falls into this category too. He was black brazilian youth, but came from a privileged family and his skin color didn't factor as much in his personality as his socio-economic status (this was pushed a little more aggressively during the New Mutants interactions with the Hellions).
Lastly, and most rare, are the characters who have undergone major shifts in comic book continuity after the fact. Ultimate Nick Fury is the best example, as the comic book character was modelled after the actor who would later come to play him in the movies. This was a calculation based in the waning importance of Nick Fury's WWII origins. Nobody was buying war comics, he was basically an "edgier" Captain America holdover and Sam Jackson is cool as hell. Done and done. That they have since retro-fitted a black Nick Fury, Jr. into "normal" continuity is evidence that black Nick Fury is here to stay.
So where does that leave us? I have seen enough flips and dips with comic book continuity that this notion of "abusing my childhood memories" has no traction with me. Costumes have changed, origins have been tweaked, marriages made and dissolved (I still can't believe no one has a problem with Scott hooking up with Emma Frost after Jean died!), but I won't be committing hari kari. If the changes work, they work. When they don't, the book ends, or they resurrect the old version. It's entertainment, people!
Just bear in mind, there is a difference in a comic book character who was CREATED to be a certain color/race/religion as a bedrock part of their identity and one who is incidentally a certain color by dint of the prevailing racial prejudices of the time.
On the issue of race and casting in Superhero movies...
By Thomas Cunningham IVon July 21st, 2013 at 8:50pm· 2k saw this· 21+ people are talking
Much has been made of the rumors of cross racial casting for Johnny Storm in the forthcoming Fantastic Four reboot. Some have even raised the issue of casting mixed race actors (with wide crossover appeal) like Dwayne Johnson and Vin Diesel in roles created for more obviously(?) black actors. Inevitably, comments include some variation of,
"Well how would you feel if Black Panther was played by Chris Evans?"
SIGH. Notwithstanding the fact that it's already happened in Spawn, let's unpack that argument a little.
The old school superhero universes were a decidedly white, male club. In fact, the default expectation was that the characters would be white. So much so, that their whiteness wasn't even a consideration (until White Supremacy and other race hatred emerged as an actual motivating factor) in later years. If a title character was introduced, he (or rarely she) was white.
When Marvel started to introduce african-american characters, they were written with race in MIND. Power Man? He was LITERALLY a blaxploitation street smart tough guy with a heart of gold. One might consider him a version of DC's Wildcat with super strength and impenetrable skin.
Storm? She was an African (American) mutant weather goddess, specifically created for Dave Cockrum's new vision of a rainbow hued X-Men team (nothing like doubling down on prejudice against Minority Mutants). Brother Voodoo is another example of a character where their ethnic background is integrated into the core of their character.
And let's not forget Black Panther... A character so specifically designed to be inspirational that an entire country of super-smart, wealthy, advanced black people was introduced right along with him. (Side note: Similarly, the Japanese Sunfire, the native tribesman Thunderbird, Russian Colossus, Irish Banshee and (to a lesser extent) Wolverine all had cultural traits as major character points.)
On the other hand, there are characters who benefitted from societal trends, but whose race is less important. These are characters who shattered the default notion of whiteness and are just guys who happen to be black.
Of these, Falcon (Bucky's dead, let's give Captain America a black sidekick!) and War Machine (Hey, why not make Tony Stark's marginally black buddy a superhero?) are the best examples. Did War Machine really have to be black? I'd argue no. There's the back and forth reparté that Don Cheadle has boatloads of wry comedic talent, but there's no compelling script reason for his character to be black... not that played out in the movies anyway.
Sunspot falls into this category too. He was black brazilian youth, but came from a privileged family and his skin color didn't factor as much in his personality as his socio-economic status (this was pushed a little more aggressively during the New Mutants interactions with the Hellions).
Lastly, and most rare, are the characters who have undergone major shifts in comic book continuity after the fact. Ultimate Nick Fury is the best example, as the comic book character was modelled after the actor who would later come to play him in the movies. This was a calculation based in the waning importance of Nick Fury's WWII origins. Nobody was buying war comics, he was basically an "edgier" Captain America holdover and Sam Jackson is cool as hell. Done and done. That they have since retro-fitted a black Nick Fury, Jr. into "normal" continuity is evidence that black Nick Fury is here to stay.
So where does that leave us? I have seen enough flips and dips with comic book continuity that this notion of "abusing my childhood memories" has no traction with me. Costumes have changed, origins have been tweaked, marriages made and dissolved (I still can't believe no one has a problem with Scott hooking up with Emma Frost after Jean died!), but I won't be committing hari kari. If the changes work, they work. When they don't, the book ends, or they resurrect the old version. It's entertainment, people!
Just bear in mind, there is a difference in a comic book character who was CREATED to be a certain color/race/religion as a bedrock part of their identity and one who is incidentally a certain color by dint of the prevailing racial prejudices of the time.
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
The funny part about this is.... I'm sure now since it's gonna be the elephant in the room, I'm sure they are gonna pull some trolling tongue in cheek scene to acknowledge it to make the audience kinda chuckle. The scene will either be very funny or very corny ala the Transformers scenes to acknowledge the black autobots
They'll either say one is adopted or they're step brother and step sister or go the biracial route