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The Cheney discourse is dumb and has always been dumb. Liz is there in hopes of bringing a few Republicans over the aisle. That's all it is. It's trying to stop Trump from regaining power. For Kamala, it's trying to win a fukking election.

If Kamala wins, the Cheney types will go right back to hating on Democrats policy positions. Harris knows that. It's all part of the game.

The people who were in here and in other spaces online acting like Cheney is going to shape policy in a Harris admin are fukking idiots.
 

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I dunno Kamala been effusively thanking him for his support and what he's done for this country, so maybe he wasn't that bad of a guy after all :jbhmm:

I think the Bush guys might have gotten a bad rap, yeah they made some mistakes but every administration makes mistakes. at least we know their heart was in the right place unlike Trump. I want Kamala to represent all people in this country and all ideas. I may not agree with all of the things Cheney and the neocons did, but they do have a lot of experience in government and represent a better time in this country when things were more normal. Like at least they didn't try to overthrow the frickin government. I dunno, I don't think it would be too bad to have dikk Cheney and some neocons in a limited advisory role in the Harris administration, she could really use their expertise in foreign policy. Kamala is right when she says it's important to respect all ideas, even the ones we disagree with.
No the fukk we don't :dahell:
 
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I dunno Kamala been effusively thanking him for his support and what he's done for this country, so maybe he wasn't that bad of a guy after all :jbhmm:

I think the Bush guys might have gotten a bad rap, yeah they made some mistakes but every administration makes mistakes. at least we know their heart was in the right place unlike Trump. I want Kamala to represent all people in this country and all ideas. I may not agree with all of the things Cheney and the neocons did, but they do have a lot of experience in government and represent a better time in this country when things were more normal. Like at least they didn't try to overthrow the frickin government. I dunno, I don't think it would be too bad to have dikk Cheney and some neocons in a limited advisory role in the Harris administration, she could really use their expertise in foreign policy. Kamala is right when she says it's important to respect all ideas, even the ones we disagree with.

This is a terrible post. Nobody is buying it. I just said why Cheney is on the campaign trail, it's clear. Kamala wants to win. You and some other people in here do not want to win, you want to perseverate on a single issue. The rest of us are not single issue voters.
 

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Trump is an idiot but Cheney and his daughter aren't shyt either.


She is a Warhawk.

Doesn't excuse the rhetoric from Trump.
I hear you, but the Iraq War and all those mistakes are in the past. Kamala represents a new path, a new future. dikk and Liz got the most important part of the test right, they hate Trump and recognize he's a danger to the democracy we all love so much, including the Cheneys. That matters more than anything they've done in the past. Kamala is going to heal this country, we gotta move past the division and bring everyone together.
 

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The Cheney discourse is dumb and has always been dumb. Liz is there in hopes of bringing a few Republicans over the aisle. That's all it is. It's trying to stop Trump from regaining power. For Kamala, it's trying to win a fukking election.

If Kamala wins, the Cheney types will go right back to hating on Democrats policy positions. Harris knows that. It's all part of the game.

The people who were in here and in other spaces online acting like Cheney is going to shape policy in a Harris admin are fukking idiots.
Look, I hear you. It's just a campaign strategy right now, Kamala has to try and bring in Republicans who might be racist or sexist or whatever. The Cheney endorsement gives them the permission structure to join team Kamala. I just don't want to go back to the Trumpy fighting once Kamala wins. I think she needs to extend an olive branch to the Cheneys and Republicans after she wins to make sure we stay united. Trump is a cancer, we can't let him grow again once he loses this election. The Cheneys have proven they're willing to do the right thing, I don't see a problem if Kamala rewards them with a seat at the table. What's the problem with that?



You and some other people in here do not want to win, you want to perseverate on a single issue.
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I want to win. Which is why I think we can't be turning down support from anybody. And I mean anybody. We have to bring everybody on board, no matter what they've done or represent. And winning isn't just about the election, it's about what happens after the election. We need as much support as possible to make Kamala a successful President, the job isn't over just because she won the election. Having the Cheneys on the team moving forward is only going to make Kamala stronger.
 
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How many times did I tell yall don’t worry about GA.

We got y’all. There is no other state that has looked MAGA square dead in the eyes, in the last 5 years, and kicked their teeth in like the Peach State. This is the home of MLK, Andrew Young, Maynard Jackson, Jimmy Carter and OutKast.

We got this.

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Let's stop there. If you just stopped right here....it's a good, sensible post. The rest is gibberish.
How so? We should all want Kamala to be a successful President. The point of winning the election isn't just to win the election, it's to do something positive as President.

And how is it fair that Kamala is just using the Cheneys to win the election and gives them nothing in return? I don't think they're that stupid. They did the right thing and supported Kamala, and they should be given a seat at the table like Kamala promised. Liz Cheney is getting frickin death threats. She and her father stood up for the constitution and democracy. If the Cheneys were all bad, then why would Kamala be legitimizing their stamp of approval? I'm not saying Kamala has to make them the shadow President/VP, but she should be willing to listen to their ideas and incorporate the good ones into her agenda. As Kamala said, they've done a great service to this country. We need more patriots in the white house.
 

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It's a interesting subculture that should be studied for a decade after this is over. What happens to these guys who dabbles in White Nationalism in America? I am focusing more on the Youth vs. the Middle-Aged folk, as the Youth have so much to live for still and still could change their world view... but should Kamala win... MAGA will remain but have a crushing defeat.

Do they man up and say, "I was lied to... this isn't the right path." and better themselves? Or do they follow down the path some more, spending their lives making it worse for themselves and their loved ones... redpilling themselves.
 

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dikk Cheney was a demon, though. We can still admit that, right?
Oh, definitely. I hate that I'm on the same side as that guy this election. Just a sign of how much an extreme fascist Trump is, and how dire things are, that war criminal Cheney is the reasonable one between them trying to help save democracy.
 

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Oh, definitely. I hate that I'm on the same side as that guy this election. Just a sign of how much an extreme fascist Trump is, and how dire things are, that war criminal Cheney is the reasonable one between them trying to help save democracy.

I don’t have a good feeling.
 

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The Cheney discourse is dumb and has always been dumb. Liz is there in hopes of bringing a few Republicans over the aisle. That's all it is. It's trying to stop Trump from regaining power. For Kamala, it's trying to win a fukking election.

If Kamala wins, the Cheney types will go right back to hating on Democrats policy positions. Harris knows that. It's all part of the game.

The people who were in here and in other spaces online acting like Cheney is going to shape policy in a Harris admin are fukking idiots.
@JLova started it

He's always been an awful poster

I don't understand why this has to be explained to people...

These posters are annoying as hell
 

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It's a interesting subculture that should be studied for a decade after this is over. What happens to these guys who dabbles in White Nationalism in America? I am focusing more on the Youth vs. the Middle-Aged folk, as the Youth have so much to live for still and still could change their world view... but should Kamala win... MAGA will remain but have a crushing defeat.

Do they man up and say, "I was lied to... this isn't the right path." and better themselves? Or do they follow down the path some more, spending their lives making it worse for themselves and their loved ones... redpilling themselves.
I don’t know but I know the Netflix docuseries is gonna be fire :whew:
 
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