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Roger king

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How do you reconcile women outvoting men by at least 8 points?
How do you reconcile the high quality polling showing her tied nationally or trailing, i remind you hillary and biden won the popular vote by over two points, polls are showing she is at best tied or slightly ahead by less than a point which is a troubling case for harris, the early voting pattern in NV is another indicator , jon ralston the guy who called the presidential race in 2020, the senate elections in 2022 and is a reliable figure says she is in trouble, the earling voting electorate in georgia shows a far more white electorate than prior, that isnt a strong indication harris is going to win, right now is possible the election is called quite early for trump on election day.
 

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I'm not sure that racist rally even hurts Trump any :francis: that kind of stuff just makes Trump more popular
 

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Please let us take off our biases and look at the facts! I support harris but this race isnt looking like she is going to win it right now
Harris is trailing in every single swing state on realclearpolitics and on fivethirtyeight trump is ahead in 5/7 swing states and the rest are tie, he is ahead in NC but i dont count that because it has voted GOP every cycle since 2008
Its very likely harris doesn't win a single one of those swing states.
I think the better question right now to ask is , will harris win the popular vote? I say its still likely but at best by a single percentage point, trump can plausibly win the popular vote and electoral college and be the first republican since bush to accomplish that feat .There has been a lot of high quality national polling showing her tied or trailing trump nationally.
I will make my prediction the day before the election but right now base on polling, early voting patterns, this isnt a close election electorally. It is trumps race right now
Its likely before 9-10pm trump is already called the winner by the major news networks
At some point maybe people should reflect , in particular the far left and liberals, the country isnt far left, it is center right, the want sane moderate position on the issues
Saying you oppose border fencing and immigration control methods, tough law enforcement, strong national defense and being anti israel simply isnt a winning issue.

White moderate voters in the rust belt are who tend to decide us elections not far left voters in seattle or california
Running on abortion with no limits isnt a winning issue nor is it a sane one in my opinion. The far left needs a gut check seriously, also she should have picked josh shapiro the popular swing state governor with a high approval rating in the crucial swing state rather than tim walz, Minnesota was alaways going to vote or harris regardless of her vp selection.
Why do you feel the need to casually drop your spidey sense of bullshyt and then disappear? :jbhmm:



Also.. pretty good Pakman vid with a poll specialist. Chunky bytch got a potty mouth too.. so its not terrible

 

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Why do you feel the need to casually drop your spidey sense of bullshyt and then disappear? :jbhmm:



Also.. pretty good Pakman vid with a poll specialist. Chunky bytch got a potty mouth too.. so its not terrible


She isnt a credible figure, for analysis i suggest, nate cohn, nate silver, harry enten, jon ralston and all this guys are showing warning signs for harris and good signs for trump. It isnt spidey sensey bs, look at the high quality polls, the early voting pattern analysis etc
 

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How do you reconcile the high quality polling showing her tied nationally or trailing, i remind you hillary and biden won the popular vote by over two points, polls are showing she is at best tied or slightly ahead by less than a point which is a troubling case for harris, the early voting pattern in NV is another indicator , jon ralston the guy who called the presidential race in 2020, the senate elections in 2022 and is a reliable figure says she is in trouble, the earling voting electorate in georgia shows a far more white electorate than prior, that isnt a strong indication harris is going to win, right now is possible the election is called quite early for trump on election day.
polls don't determine elections, people determine election
 

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The YT video will be out at 12ET.

This is a really good interview so far. She basically talking directly to the black community. Shannon has a good platform and space for her to open up and sound less like a typical politician when talking about issues.

And she keep only referring to herself and her sister as black. I know people gonna have a problem with that :skip: :umad:
 

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Interesting, I wonder why most of the countries where communism has been implemented are one party states :francis:
:dahell:
Most authoritarian countries have been capitalist countries. The biggest capitalist country in the history of the world wiped out the indigenous people of an entire continent , enslaved its black population for 274 years and held them in second class citizenship for another 100 years.
 

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one day later and I still don't know why the Trump campaign thought it would be a good idea to shyt on Puerto Rico in New York of all places and with large Rican populations in PA and Florida :dahell:

Trumps teflon when it comes to getting away with saying crazy sh1t and not facing any political consequences for it so i guess they figured they could go away with anything but that doesn’t mean that goes for anyone con his orbit

The crowd didn’t even laugh at the comedian
 

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Clips and sound bites from this rally better be all over the national news airwaves. This is some sick bullshyt. No more kid gloves with this muhfukka. This can’t be condoned.
:heh: Trump hasn't been treated with kid gloves man, people need to stop saying this. He's rightly been the most relentlessly shyt on person by mainstream media for like 8 years straight. The coverage of this rally isn't substantively different from the coverage he's been getting for years. This is like when Charlamagne and Angela Rye went on AC360 and chastized Anderson for not being willing to call out Trump's bullshyt, and Anderson almost had an aneurysm because that's basically all the network does. For a little while during his first term they were willing to engage in some effort of normalization because of their structural deference to power, but that didn't last long, and since then the only time they've been willing to give him props is when he's engaging in militaristic violence overseas.

Saying "Did you see that latest bad thing Trump has done?" is just masturbatory and is past diminishing returns. There isn't some magic word the mainstream media is refusing to say that will destroy Trump. It's a lazy analysis made by Liberals who won't accept that about half the electorally relevant voting base in this country has heard and seen Trump in all his ugliness and seen and heard the Democratic response pitch and prefer Trump, which means Liberals are going to actually have to do work to reliably regain power instead of relying on their propaganda wing in mainstream media to do it for them. Kamala has decided this work consists of moving right to placate Republicans and conservatives and welcome them into the fold, but at least she's acknowledging there's work to be done, even though I fundamentally disagree with her about the direction of that work and think she should be plowing the opposite side of the field.
 

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What the Republican party can't wrap their mind around either is the fact that this wasn't some podcast or some fringe radio host.

This was at your nominees rally. You invited these people. And that means you own everything that gets said up on that stage whether you like it or not and the fact that this actually took place is an abomination.

I'm not even mad or upset or sad it's the fact that these people still think people are stupid and that they can pivot away

No canned response of " this doesn't reflect our party" cuts it.
 
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