2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House

WHO WINS?


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Im not sure if you seen exit polls in swing states if you haven't you should. Biden was the least liked candidate in all swing states. He would have did WORSE on the ballot. People under 100k HATE bidens economy. Biden was unable to communicate what he did for the economy and that why we received this backlash

Lol... People only believe "exit polls" when they want to believe them. The fact is, Kamala Harris on the ballot lost millions of Biden voters... and that resulted in her losing all of the battleground states by small margins..

These elections have been won and lost on the margins and that's where Biden was able to play to where Clinton and Harris did not.
 

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How is Obama's legacy ruined? The party made it clear in 2020 that they wanted to move beyond his legacy, and while Biden won by running as his VP he hasn't governed like Obama at all. Worse yet the party has shifted to his left on issues like immigration while getting nothing in exchange. I've got plenty of issues with Obama and how he conducts himself during elections, especially this one (the slander towards black men). And yea, Obamacare is probably getting shytcanned now. But anyone trying to make this an indictment on neoliberalism is just bullshytting. Biden was to Obama's left on multiple labor and worker issues and guess what? It didn't matter because regular people felt they were getting fukked by high costs.

Nearly every western incumbent (including Trump 2020) has lost in the post-covid world. There's a rightward shift across the globe. It's far worse in Europe than here, obviously.

Do I think Kamala did enough on middle class issues? No. But I don't think it mattered. She got SMOKED, guys. A lot of that hinges on the economy, some of it hinges on her being a woman. I don't see this as a rejection of democrats or liberals, or a rejection of "wokeness" or whatever else. People are getting squeezed by high prices and are tired of it. Prices are coming down right now, slowly. But will go back up further if Trump gets his wish on tariffs.
I think that’s a big point. The dems could be in danger of “over correcting” after the rethugs inevitable fukk things up and making 2028 closer than it should be during referendum time.
 

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For that to work they'll also have to throw black people (the most consistently disliked group amongst conservatives if we're being honest), homosexuals, nonreligious people, immigrants, and basically anyone who's not a WASP under the bus.

At that point you may as well just vote GOP. :yeshrug:
Thank you. Watching nikkas take this stance on “identity politics” like they’re not the damn identity themselves is so confusing. They’re literally parroting all the same arguments Bernie Bros did to them in 16.
 

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I'm saying man. Like damn that swimmer winning that medal over those girls didn't make you be like " man this is fukked up" one bit? I got no issue with anyone but damn like that's just not right.

There are things called OPTICS. And the optics of that dude winning that medal and migrants being sent to sanctuary cities are easy, 1 sentence/clips to show "radical liberals". And it WORKED.
I really don't care, at all. Some white girl came in 5th in a race, complained and became a darling of the right. Conservatives then did a masterful job tying that to Democrats who had nothing to do with it.

What y'all don't seem to understand is that the Right doesn't want LGBTQ people to EXIST. I'm old enough to remember Matthew Shepard. That's the country they want to bring back. They're using "protection of women's sports" which they've NEVER cared about to trojan horse their extremism back into the mainstream. Now that they're in power they will work to outlaw gender affirming surgery for everyone, regardless of age and it won't stop there. Best believe they'll be looking to outlaw gay marriage as well.

What do you think they mean by Make American Great Again? They want a world dominated by white Christian values, where gays don't exist/are back in the closet and every other minority is subservient to white men. Why do you think they have two billionaire products of apartheid bankrolling them? :unimpressed:
 

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breh, nancy pelosi needs to go, period. she literally personifies everything that's wrong with politics in this country :dead:

corruption, unaccountable spending, insider trading, no term limits, sociopathic inability to stop clinging to power, you name it; she's a fukking pig

she's 84 years old; are we supposed to watch her Feinstein herself, and die in this fukking seat? get her the hell outta there
Pelosi stepped aside for Jeffries. I’m not a Pelosi stan but she has more sense than the vast majority of her party. Pelosi did for Jeffries what Biden and Clinton didn’t do for the next generation of Democrstic leaders. There’s no legislation you can point to that she stopped.
 

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Pelosi stepped aside for Jeffries. I’m not a Pelosi stan but she has more sense than the vast majority of her party. Pelosi did for Jeffries what Biden and Clinton didn’t do for the next generation of Democrstic leaders. There’s no legislation you can point to that she stopped.
yes, how gracious of her. now she needs to step aside for someone who isn't an insanely corrupt 85 year old
 

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I think that’s a big point. The dems could be in danger of “over correcting” after the rethugs inevitable fukk things up and making 2028 closer than it should be during referendum time.
Nah, they lost in 2016 this same way before COVID. They need to entirely clean out their leadership structure on a national scale. I can tell you for a fact that team Biden’s leadership team did not listen to any people of color, young people or activists on the ground. They didn’t even embrace going on podcast like they were advised to do until it was late in the game. They want to win their way. They’ve run the same election 3 straight times. Biden got bailed out by COVID.
 

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Because theirs something called moral compass, you don't have to be a weirdo bigot in order to win campaigns. Same people who focus on transsexuals are the ones who believe illegals are being shipped to red states to get democrat votes. These aren't democrat voters, they're elon supporters or Rogan supporters.

It drives me crazy that he’s never going to have to answer for that.
 
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