2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House

WHO WINS?


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What does this have to do with down ballot races

Because clearly she was rejected in several places where Biden was strong including the Rust Belt and that's what they needed to protect...

That's why I was in here talking about suburban Rust Belt cacs and you and some others were talkin bout "WHO CARES ABOUT THEM!" and the reality is... I have no choice but to care because they decide the election...

And that's what happened.
 

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Pelosi, Schumer, and the rest of the swamp creatures will escape largely unscathed. Obama's legacy is ruined but he'll try to maintain control of the party.
pelosi needs to be fukking primaried and retired in 2026. enough is enough. she's a fukking criminal, and apparently totally useless; her "fundraising" meant nothing

schumer needs to fukking go too. what does he bring to the table? what better time than right now, to see him be challenged?
 

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Because clearly she was rejected in several places where Biden was strong including the Rust Belt and that's what they needed to protect...

That's why I was in here talking about suburban Rust Belt cacs and you and some others were talkin bout "WHO CARES ABOUT THEM!" and the reality is... I have no choice but to care because they decide the election...

And that's what happened.
Im not sure if you seen exit polls in swing states if you haven't you should. Biden was the least liked candidate in all swing states. He would have did WORSE on the ballot. People under 100k HATE bidens economy. Biden was unable to communicate what he did for the economy and that why we received this backlash
 

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OK? I'm not even damning Biden's health here. I'm pointing out how the DNC had a chance to prepare a candidate for 2 years ahead of time. The great advantage of a primary system? Finding out what your OWN voters actually care about. All the activists posing as politicians, the gender debates, and emotional manipulation would have been axed in the primary debates and internal polls.
At this point Biden is still the ONLY politician to come up against trump and win on either side.

I don’t think the dems were wrong for riding the incumbent president hoping he could put dude away.

If we are gonna be honest the biggest culprit on the deme side is their inabilty to “stay on code”


They shoulda got Biden the fukk outa there early or they shoulda “Weekend at Burnies” his ass to the Whitehouse.

I feel the “fight” on the dems side was more damaging than what any individual person did or could have done.
 

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pelosi needs to be fukking primaried and retired in 2026. enough is enough. she's a fukking criminal, and apparently totally useless; her "fundraising" meant nothing

schumer needs to fukking go. what better time than right now, to see him be challenged?

Don't forget Elizabeth Warren too. She's gotten bodied so many times when publicly challenged on even simple policy there is no reason she should be around.
 

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How is Obama's legacy ruined? The party made it clear in 2020 that they wanted to move beyond his legacy, and while Biden won by running as his VP he hasn't governed like Obama at all. Worse yet the party has shifted to his left on issues like immigration while getting nothing in exchange. I've got plenty of issues with Obama and how he conducts himself during elections, especially this one (the slander towards black men). And yea, Obamacare is probably getting shytcanned now. But anyone trying to make this an indictment on neoliberalism is just bullshytting. Biden was to Obama's left on multiple labor and worker issues and guess what? It didn't matter because regular people felt they were getting fukked by high costs.

Nearly every western incumbent (including Trump 2020) has lost in the post-covid world. There's a rightward shift across the globe. It's far worse in Europe than here, obviously.

Do I think Kamala did enough on middle class issues? No. But I don't think it mattered. She got SMOKED, guys. A lot of that hinges on the economy, some of it hinges on her being a woman. I don't see this as a rejection of democrats or liberals, or a rejection of "wokeness" or whatever else. People are getting squeezed by high prices and are tired of it. Prices are coming down right now, slowly. But will go back up further if Trump gets his wish on tariffs.
 

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Funny part of people takes on the election is this blame that Harris depressed white women and men, oddly enough overall it looks like she did better with both groups then Biden ever did. Latinos breaking away from the democrat party is the actual issue. She lots large pockets or ny NJ and due to Puerto Ricans and Dominicans etc voting for trump. I think we will find out eventually this was due to illegal immigration, you have to remember densantis and other was strategically dropping illegals into nyc and surrounding areas
 

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pelosi needs to be fukking primaried and retired in 2026. enough is enough. she's a fukking criminal, and apparently totally useless; her "fundraising" meant nothing

schumer needs to fukking go too. what does he bring to the table? what better time than right now, to see him be challenged?
Pelosi wasn’t wrong. She said she never liked Biden’s operation despite him winning. And team Biden ran Kamala’s campaign. Pelosi wanted a primary. Biden surprised everyone and endorsed Harris as a fukk you .
 
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