2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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I mean in a public way. You can always PM the account for details. He has explained to others.
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IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
Warren would lose to Trump.
Michael Brooks went off the rails today defending Sanders. 
These guys are flat out attacking Warren over nonsense.
Its gonna be a long year
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These guys are flat out attacking Warren over nonsense.
Its gonna be a long year
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You're high or doing your best Washington Post fact checker impression:
GM offers 2% raises in UAW contract; ends health care
Rumors had swirled late Monday that striking UAW members were no longer covered by company health care, the cost of which is a major issue in contract talks. To ease the concerns, Terry Dittes, vice president for the UAW's GM Department, sent out a letter saying GM would continue health care benefits through the end of the month for all UAW-represented employees "as provided for in the contract."
But Dittes later told members he received a letter from GM on Tuesday "confirming that our striking members' health care coverage has been cut off by General Motors. During this period, the UAW will provide medical assistance or a COBRA option, if necessary, for you and eligible family members. If you have any questions, please direct them to the auditor assigned to your location by the secretary-treasurer's office. Additionally, this answer provided by GM, today, will be reviewed by UAW Legal to see if any further action is required."
The UAW said online that "the UAW Strike and Defense Fund covers certain benefits such as medical and prescription drugs. Benefits not covered include: dental, vision, hearing and sick and accident. These benefits are either paid directly by the (strike) Fund according to the company’s current plan or by having the Strike and Defense Fund make COBRA payments to the company plan."
The union had $721 million in its strike fund in 2018 and temporarily increased dues in March this year to boost it to $850 million. That fund also will pay striking workers $250 a week.
Sources: GM offers 2% raises in UAW contract; ends health care
GM health care shift during UAW strike poured gasoline on fire
Within 36 hours of the United Automobile Workers strike against General Motors, the Detroit automaker announced a decision to shift worker health care payments to the union immediately – a strategy that risks dragging out the strike, labor negotiators say.
The UAW said its lawyers are reviewing the move, which forces the union to more quickly tap its strike fund, which exceeds $750 million. Worker coverage would be picked up by COBRA, but the logistics are frightening to families of the 46,000 hourly workers during this time of uncertainty.
"This was done as a scare tactic," said a UAW source close to the negotiations. "It was unnecessary."
Legal experts nationally question the wisdom of the decision.
"This would really lay down the gauntlet," said William B. Gould IV, emeritus professor of law at Stanford University and former chairman of the National Labor Relations Board. "It certainly shows GM is playing hardball in a big way. I think it's a calculated decision to pressure the union. But it's like throwing a red flag before the bull."
Sources close to the negotiations say union officials have no problem absorbing the cost of health benefit payments in addition to paying $250 a week in strike pay, but making the payments retroactive to Sunday's strike start came across as intentionally jarring – in a manner designed to startle GM workers.
Expert: GM health care shift during UAW strike poured gasoline on fire
NLRB: Cancelling health benefits while employees engaged in brief strike was unlawful
By Ronald Miller, J.D.
An employer acted unlawfully when it ceased providing employees accrued health benefits when they went out on a strike, ruled a divided three-member panel of the NLRB. Cancellation of the benefits was unlawful because, under the applicable collective bargaining agreement, the employees’ eligibility for benefits previously had accrued and was not dependent upon their continued performance of work for the employer. Moreover, the employer failed to establish a legitimate and substantial business justification for discontinuing the striking employees’ benefits. Acting Chairman Miscimarra dissented (Hawaiian Telecom, Inc., February 23, 2017).
WK WorkDay Blog | Employment Law Daily
'We had no warning:' Wife of GM employee on strike wakes up from surgery without insurance
Thousands of workers are still on strike as the United Auto Workers Union and General Motors still have not reached a deal. To make matters worse, the UAW announced GM is cutting health insurance for those striking.
The news is devastating for families, as they now have to worry about how they're going to pay for everything from medication to major surgery. Union leaders telling FOX 17 News members went in for cancer treatments and to pick up prescriptions on Monday and that's how they found out they were uninsured.
Laura Prater heard the news when she woke up from a $40,000 stomach operation.
"All of a sudden I am risking getting this major hospital bill we honestly couldn't afford,” says Prater, whose husband Clayton is an electrician at the GM plant in Spring Hill.
Up until yesterday, the Prater family of five were carried on a Blue Cross Blue Shield plan through General Motors, but not anymore.
"It makes me feel terrible,” says Prater. “Before I started working for GM, I was Army. I'm a veteran so things like integrity, honesty those things mean something to me.”
Clayton is one of 3,500 GM workers taking to the streets from the Spring Hill plant, one of nearly 50,000 nationwide amid contract negotiations. He says cutting off health care coverage to his family during the strike is a low blow.
"I expect my insurance to be dropped and I will deal with that through the union, but my wife's a pawn and that doesn't sit right with me,” says Prater.
Despite the strike, the Prater family thought they'd be covered until October 1st. Turns out, their insurance got cut off hours before Laura's surgery.
“We had no warning and in fact, I even verified last week before the surgery is this still a go?” says Laura.
'We had no warning:' Wife of GM employee on strike wakes up from surgery without insurance
this Socialism shyt is easy folks
GM just hitting y'all with that compassionate capitalism amirite
GM stops paying for health insurance for striking union workers; talks continue - Reuters
Meanwhile, GM said coverage for the striking workers’ health insurance reverted to the union, which unsuccessfully sought to have the No. 1 U.S. automaker cover those costs through the end of the month. That places another drain on the union’s strike fund.
This is prenegotiated in Union contracts. Now if she was “caught off guard”
I doubt it bc unions have a legal obligation to tell their members everything that will happen if they strike. There are laws in place for this.
I’m not defending GM. We needed to fight this temporary bullshyt worker economy a decade ago. I’m glad they’re going in on them, bc most the ppl affected by that economy are ppl like me. “Young black millennials”
Sensationalized media is a common tactic, infusing anecdotal stories into a main points of a story to insinuate said anecdotal story as “factual” while leaving the backdoor open to state they never explicitly said it(like saying gm didn’t warn them they would take away benefits, the writing you link doesn’t say that). It’s just a common writing technique utilized by both sides of the media.
Perfect example would be the Trayvon martin case.
The article stated these facts.
-rumors started swirling
-UAE informed them that their cobra insurance kicked in
-somebody’s wife was caught off guard. (Notice they chose someone’s wife and not an actual employee)
The crux of what I stated was that this was already a contractual agreement to cover health insurance costs either way by uaw or gm dependent upon a strike. Which obviously took place.
Do u really think the most sophisticated labor union we have, was “caught off guard” and had to tap into funds. No, we’re talking 100’s of millions of dollars here using the top lawyers in the nation on both sides. These types of contracts have been in place for decades.
If you believe the right wing media purposely does this and the left wing doesn’t, I’ll leave that up to u and your reading comprehension skills
There’s a difference between sensationalizing and overt omissions writing with actual facts breh.
This post is so dumb.GM stops paying for health insurance for striking union workers; talks continue - Reuters
Meanwhile, GM said coverage for the striking workers’ health insurance reverted to the union, which unsuccessfully sought to have the No. 1 U.S. automaker cover those costs through the end of the month. That places another drain on the union’s strike fund.
This is prenegotiated in Union contracts. Now if she was “caught off guard”
I doubt it bc unions have a legal obligation to tell their members everything that will happen if they strike. There are laws in place for this.
I’m not defending GM. We needed to fight this temporary bullshyt worker economy a decade ago. I’m glad they’re going in on them, bc most the ppl affected by that economy are ppl like me. “Young black millennials”
Sensationalized media is a common tactic, infusing anecdotal stories into a main points of a story to insinuate said anecdotal story as “factual” while leaving the backdoor open to state they never explicitly said it(like saying gm didn’t warn them they would take away benefits, the writing you link doesn’t say that). It’s just a common writing technique utilized by both sides of the media.
Perfect example would be the Trayvon martin case.
The article stated these facts.
-rumors started swirling
-UAE informed them that their cobra insurance kicked in
-somebody’s wife was caught off guard. (Notice they chose someone’s wife and not an actual employee)
The crux of what I stated was that this was already a contractual agreement to cover health insurance costs either way by uaw or gm dependent upon a strike. Which obviously took place.
Do u really think the most sophisticated labor union we have, was “caught off guard” and had to tap into funds. No, we’re talking 100’s of millions of dollars here using the top lawyers in the nation on both sides. These types of contracts have been in place for decades.
If you believe the right wing media purposely does this and the left wing doesn’t, I’ll leave that up to u and your reading comprehension skills
There’s a difference between sensationalizing and overt omissions writing with actual facts breh.
AtrociousThis post is so dumb.
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Glory to Michigan
The poster asked why she hasn't dropped her own healthcare plan and I gave him the reason, which is the same as her climate proposal. Whether or not you feel she's as strong as an advocate as Sanders is irrelevant to that point.
She's already the had the option to do Medicare for America, a Biden plan, or a Harris plan, but she's decided to stick with and defend M4A. If the point you're attempting to convey is that she's still open to things similar to the aforementioned plans, then okay and so is Sanders. Dude voted for the Crime Bill and is bullish on the filibuster, people pretending he's an ideologue and not a politician will always be amusing to me. Feigning the maximalist position doesn't mean you won't be bargained down. I guess it's time to start bursting some bubbles.
You are all aware that a 2021 M4A bill probably isn't getting out of the House clean and definitely wouldn't get out of the Senate clean.
When jackasses like Joe Lieberman fought against the ACA there were no true alternatives other than weakening it given the amount of political capital already expended. Most Dem Senators won't support M4A with other "viable" options on the table and most of the states we need to gain the majority aren't going to be sending us people to the left of Klobuchar. The party leadership clearly opposes it so they won't be twisting any arms to get votes for a proper bill (not that Schumer can control his caucus anyway). So whether it's Obamacare Plus, M4Murica, or FUBAR M4A a Sanders administration would sign it into law. They will have other things on their plate (recession. climate crisis, etc.) and several months before the electorate does something really stupid.