Torrential
LWO
You have no argument .Why attempt to make a strawman here?
Ironically you're the one being self-interested here.
2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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1. I think under the Clinton administration she would have actually tried to pass policies that would help people and progressives would have had a seat at the table and the momentum from Sanders 2016 campaign to push more progressive policies.1. If this ends up being true, I am ready and willing to eat crow on this one because I was one of the main people positing this argument. But I don't think it's been disproven that the ongoing crisis that is Trump has awakened people to an expanded realm of what is considered politically possible, evident by the exponential increase in popularity for large scale progressive policies like M4A and GND. What the popularity of progressive policies would have looked like in the alternate universe where Hillary was elected is unknowable, but I do think Trump has accelerated the awakening of political consciousness in this country. Bernie or Liz may not win, but their ideas seem to be winning.
2. What in the hell is your avi
Not just with healthcare, but across the board. That legislation isn't seeing the floor under the current administration to even attempt good amendments that could save lives.
Fundamentally, I have an issue with people saying they're fighting for the greater good while also encouraging more suffering and death to get there.
2. Trump Exotic
Do you think Bernie Sanders would veto a Bill that he's signed off on as a Senator.
That's the litmus test you all have used for criticizing Clinton and Biden if they became president.
Does that no longer apply?
I dont need an argument. Biden told you why he would veto Medicare for all. And the primary reason had nothing to do with it being too expensive. I'm not even sure he used those words.
Let's see.
It seems his concern is increasing the taxes on the middle class and a four year delay on expanding healthcare coverage.
the cac mamba
Veteran
the cac mamba
Veteran
no one is dying because we dont have single payer
what are you, a retard?Bernie's acting like he's just not going to go back to the Senate for another 4 years when he pulls out.
He's fine
He's fine
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
"You all'?! What the fukk are you talking about?! I never said any such thing so stop making shyt up. Deal with who you are quoting not past Progressives who have offended your more conservative sensibilities in the past. We aren't the same people. That's basic shyt.Do you think Bernie Sanders would veto a Bill that he's signed off on as a Senator.
That's the litmus test you all have used for criticizing Clinton and Biden if they became president.
Does that no longer apply?
And as a president Bernie could veto it and Congress in the first place would keep in mind while crafting a bill they have to come up with something the president will sign.
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
If Biden wins what is the likelihood of a Sharrod Brown run in 2024 if Biden picks a female VP? It really wasn't hard to follow. lol
Biden's plan still leaves millions of people uninsured, but that's mostly because of republicansno one is dying because we dont have single payer
Exclusive: Hackers linked to Iran target WHO staff emails during coronavirus - sources
Exclusive: Hackers linked to Iran target WHO staff emails during coronavirus - sources
Joseph Menn
SAN FRANCISCO/WASHINGTON/LONDON (Reuters) - Hackers working in the interests of the Iranian government have attempted to break into the personal email accounts of staff at the World Health Organization during the coronavirus outbreak, four people with knowledge of the matter told Reuters.
FILE PHOTO: Traffic passes the Regional Office for the Americas of the World Health Organization (WHO) during the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) outbreak in Washington, D.C., U.S. March 22, 2020. Picture taken with a long exposure. REUTERS/Raphael Satter/File Photo
It is not clear if any accounts were compromised, but the attacks show how the WHO and other organizations at the center of a global effort to contain the coronavirus have come under a sustained digital bombardment by hackers seeking information about the outbreak.
Reuters reported in March that hacking attempts against the United Nations health agency and its partners had more than doubled since the beginning of the coronavirus crisis, which has now killed more than 40,000 worldwide.
The latest effort has been ongoing since March 2 and attempted to steal passwords from WHO staff by sending malicious messages designed to mimic Google web services to their personal email accounts, a common hacking technique known as “phishing,” according to four people briefed on the attacks. Reuters confirmed their findings by reviewing a string of malicious websites and other forensic data.
“We’ve seen some targeting by what looks like Iranian government-backed attackers targeting international health organizations generally via phishing,” said one of the sources, who works for a large technology company that monitors internet traffic for malicious cyber activity.
WHO spokesman Tarik Jasarevic confirmed that personal email accounts of WHO staff were being targeted by phishing attacks, but said the WHO did not know who was responsible. “To the best of our knowledge, none of these hacking attempts were successful,” he said.
Iran’s government denied any involvement. “These are all sheer lies to put more pressure on Iran,” said a spokesman at Iran’s information technology ministry. “Iran has been a victim of hacking.”
Karim Hijazi, chief executive of cyber intelligence firm Prevailion, shared his recently captured data with Reuters that shows a sophisticated hacking group was actively targeting the global health organization. Reuters couldn’t independently confirm his analysis. Hijazi said the identity of the hackers was difficult to determine, although their techniques appeared advanced.
The intrusion attempts are distinct from others reported by Reuters last week, which sources said were thought to be the work of an advanced group of hackers known as DarkHotel that has previously been active in East Asia - an area that has been particularly affected by the coronavirus.
The motives of the hackers was not clear, but targeting officials at their personal accounts is a longstanding intelligence-gathering technique.
Other details in this phishing attempt point to links with Tehran. For example, Reuters found that the same malicious websites used in the WHO break-in attempts were deployed around the same time to target American academics with ties to Iran.
The related activity - which saw the hackers impersonate a well-known researcher - parallels cases Reuters previously documented where alleged Iranian hackers masqueraded as media figures from organizations such as CNN or The New York Times to trick their targets.
Iran has suffered enormous loss of life from the coronavirus, and infections have reached the inner circle of the country’s leadership.
A person close to U.S intelligence said he was aware of the Iranian campaign and that such attacks are standard fare during times of international crisis.
While large prizes for intelligence agencies would include coronavirus response plans for various countries or word of effective treatments, more benign data, such as WHO estimates for infection rates, would also be valuable, the person said.
Reporting by Joseph Menn, Christopher Bing, Jack Stubbs and Raphael Satter. Additional reporting by Stephanie Ulmer-Nebehay in GENEVA and Parisa Hafezi in ANKARA; editing by Chris Sanders and Edward Tobin