2016 NBA Draft and beyond (labelplant edition).. 4/4/16 UPDATE: 2017 Draft Big Board
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He has lots of strengths breh, maybe you have a different definition for the word though. He has great size for a PG, his measurements are very similar to John Wall.
John Wall has freakish athleticism. Just stop it. nikkas pump up guys every year. But not every year has elite players coming out. I don't know why this is a difficult concept for people to realize. I had to listen to this same junk last year when it came to Brandon Ingram. I said he was garbage while everyone else tried to compare him to KD.
This Fultz kid is AIGHT. But he ain't special. Nobody in this years draft or next year is special.
The only SPECIAL players not in the NBA right now is Marvin Bagley (class of 2018) and RJ Barrett (class of 2019).
I didn't mention anything about Fultz's athleticism, you said he isn't exceptionally tall or long so I brought up Wall as he has nearly the same exact measurments. I don't know how you can call Fultz just "aight" when he can do essentially everything at an above average level or better.
His game is very smooth and I think that is deceiving a lot of people.
Tatum has the game of a number one option but isn't a number one option. His game will clash with a franchise perimeter player. You have to put him a situation like Paul Pierce or Kyrie to make the best use of his shot creation ability.
5 years from now these dudes will be the top players in the NBA.
Top 10 NBA Players in 2022
1. SG Andrew Wiggins (27 years old)
2. C Joel Embiid (28 years old)
3. SF Giannis Antetokounmpo (28 years old)
4. SF Ben Simmons (26 years old)
5. PF Karl-Anthony Towns (27 years old)
6. PF Marvin Bagley III (23 years old)
7. SG RJ Barrett (22 years old)
8. C Kristaps Porzingis (27 years old)
9. SG Zach LaVine (27 years old)
10. PG Lonzo Ball (25 years old)
Top 10 NBA Players in 2022
1. SG Andrew Wiggins (27 years old)
2. C Joel Embiid (28 years old)
3. SF Giannis Antetokounmpo (28 years old)
4. SF Ben Simmons (26 years old)
5. PF Karl-Anthony Towns (27 years old)
6. PF Marvin Bagley III (23 years old)
7. SG RJ Barrett (22 years old)
8. C Kristaps Porzingis (27 years old)
9. SG Zach LaVine (27 years old)
10. PG Lonzo Ball (25 years old)
Dude can dunk from the free throw line too.
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He plays like a Pierce/Carmelo except not as good
he strikes me as a very good 3rd option on a team with a ball dominant PG.
Really? You think Durant, Harden and AD are just gonna fade into old age?
Why even put Simmons on that list, he hasn't played a game and yet you claim he'll be a top 10 player.
You're better off putting Booker or Jokic up there.
I think a lot of your brehs are sleeping on just how special Lonzo Ball is.....He may not wow you but his basketball IQ is super high....He is also a better athlete than he gets credit for. And while he may not get to the rim or shoot the mid-range shot much everything about him strikes me as efficient. He plays winning basketball isn't afraid to make the extra pass or hit the clutch shot....If your team fits into either of the following scenarios Lonzo Ball is the perfect fit 1.Ball Dominant SF or SG 2.Combo Guard at PG....
Loans would be a good fit on these teams:
Lakers- With him and D-snitch in the backcourt they can both pick and choose their spots.
Suns- Him next to Booker in the backcourt with TJ Warren and Criss in the front court is a good look.....He could play both guard spots coming off the bench behind Bledsoe...Allowing Bledsoe to concentrate on his strengths....He would make up for the weakness by being able to create looks for the other suns. Something they are very weak at.
Mavs- He could come in and start immediately at PG.
Nuggets- While they already have a combo guard in Murray and Mudiay having him would allow them to be more versatile and he is a better shot creator for others.
T-wolves- Would be one of the best fits for him. He could concentrate on getting the ball to the scorers on the T-wolves but also be a threat to stretch the floor....
Magic- As with the T-wolves he would be a threat to stretch the floor but he could also play in the backcourt at the 2 along with Payton...
76ers- This is to me "his" perfect fit...Splitting ball handling with Ben Simmons. If they add a Shooter at either SG or SF to go along with Simmons and Embiid this team will be offensively efficient.....
Kings- Another good fit...But I think the best fit for the Kings is a ball dominant PG like Dennis Smith...But if they lucked out and fell into Lonzo he could be the player to help turn them around...They need someone who is efficient and a team player but knows how to pick and choose when to assert themselves....Adding Lonzo to Cousins and an upgrade at the 2/3 (Maybe Dion Waiters) could go a long way.
Loans would be a good fit on these teams:
Lakers- With him and D-snitch in the backcourt they can both pick and choose their spots.
Suns- Him next to Booker in the backcourt with TJ Warren and Criss in the front court is a good look.....He could play both guard spots coming off the bench behind Bledsoe...Allowing Bledsoe to concentrate on his strengths....He would make up for the weakness by being able to create looks for the other suns. Something they are very weak at.
Mavs- He could come in and start immediately at PG.
Nuggets- While they already have a combo guard in Murray and Mudiay having him would allow them to be more versatile and he is a better shot creator for others.
T-wolves- Would be one of the best fits for him. He could concentrate on getting the ball to the scorers on the T-wolves but also be a threat to stretch the floor....
Magic- As with the T-wolves he would be a threat to stretch the floor but he could also play in the backcourt at the 2 along with Payton...
76ers- This is to me "his" perfect fit...Splitting ball handling with Ben Simmons. If they add a Shooter at either SG or SF to go along with Simmons and Embiid this team will be offensively efficient.....
Kings- Another good fit...But I think the best fit for the Kings is a ball dominant PG like Dennis Smith...But if they lucked out and fell into Lonzo he could be the player to help turn them around...They need someone who is efficient and a team player but knows how to pick and choose when to assert themselves....Adding Lonzo to Cousins and an upgrade at the 2/3 (Maybe Dion Waiters) could go a long way.
Not many prospects use their athleticism better than him in this draft honestly.
my current random top 10 if the Draft/Lottery was today.
1.Celtics- Fultz (I really believe they will end up trading this pick)
2.Suns- Josh Jackson (Good potential 2 way player with a high motor)
3.Lakers- Lonzo Ball (Dudes a star he will play in the backcourt with D-Snitch)
4.Magic- Dennis Smith JR ( He is flat out better than Elfrid Payton right now and has star potential)
5.76ers- Johnathan Isaac (a front court of Embiid/Simmons/Isaac is a mathcup nightmare)
6.T-wolves- Jayson Tatum (Could play either 3/4 but will force Wiggins to the SG permanently...Lavine may be trade bait in offseason or 6th man)
7.Mavs-Frank Ntklinka ( a good spot for him. Not much expectation and a great head coach. They would likely bring him alone very slowly.
8.Knicks- Malik Monk (Dude will have perimeter scoring ability that will translate to the NBA. Don't be surprised if he becomes a big time 6th man.
9.Pelicans- Lauri Markannen (he is a 7ft player who can stretch the floor. would look good next to AD the times that he moves to Center)
10.Blazers- Robert Williams- An athletic pogo stick type. He is a backup player but can provide some weak side shot blocking for them going forward.
1.Celtics- Fultz (I really believe they will end up trading this pick)
2.Suns- Josh Jackson (Good potential 2 way player with a high motor)
3.Lakers- Lonzo Ball (Dudes a star he will play in the backcourt with D-Snitch)
4.Magic- Dennis Smith JR ( He is flat out better than Elfrid Payton right now and has star potential)
5.76ers- Johnathan Isaac (a front court of Embiid/Simmons/Isaac is a mathcup nightmare)
6.T-wolves- Jayson Tatum (Could play either 3/4 but will force Wiggins to the SG permanently...Lavine may be trade bait in offseason or 6th man)
7.Mavs-Frank Ntklinka ( a good spot for him. Not much expectation and a great head coach. They would likely bring him alone very slowly.
8.Knicks- Malik Monk (Dude will have perimeter scoring ability that will translate to the NBA. Don't be surprised if he becomes a big time 6th man.
9.Pelicans- Lauri Markannen (he is a 7ft player who can stretch the floor. would look good next to AD the times that he moves to Center)
10.Blazers- Robert Williams- An athletic pogo stick type. He is a backup player but can provide some weak side shot blocking for them going forward.