1998 = The Most Underrated Year In Hip-Hop History

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:pachaha: so these forgotten songs that people never bump,had little impact when they dropped are classics and you have to ask such a question about flesh of my flesh :dahell: ok,they might be classics in your bedroom,on your stopp,hallway etc but thats it

To respect someone as a hip hop fan I would expect them to be familiar with these records. It wouldn't exclude you as a rule, you could demonstrate the breadth of your knowledge in other ways, but these are bonafide classic albums and the elite joints off the albums.
 

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To respect someone as a hip hop fan I would expect them to be familiar with these records. It wouldn't exclude you as a rule, you could demonstrate the breadth of your knowledge in other ways, but these are bonafide classic albums and the elite joints off the albums.

i remember blackstar ringing bells amongst faux hiphop purists. Came off the pointless back pack label. They had a good hustle.
 

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Honestly, I don't think that year had any classics. Capital Punishment was probably thee closest; Noreaga is an album people love; Jay-Z went mega star with Vol 2; DMX brought energy and pain; Canibus let us down, everything else was hit or miss as far as albums..
 

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i remember blackstar ringing bells amongst faux hiphop purists. Came off the pointless back pack label. They had a good hustle.

That Black Star record was 3.5 at best. AT BEST.

That's crazy. Sure there were a few clunkers on the album, and Talib is always gonna have flow issues - but there's just too many classic records on that album. And the beats were crazy. Plus it was so substantive. I can see an argument that it's not classic, but 3.5 is crazy.
 

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:pachaha: so these forgotten songs that people never bump,had little impact when they dropped are classics and you have to ask such a question about flesh of my flesh :dahell: ok,they might be classics in your bedroom,on your stoop,hallway etc but thats it



Lol,...
At you being a Blackman and not knowing who or what brown skin lady is, off top/gp.
You not even qualified to speak on these records or the time.
If you do not even know that just for starters.

Lol,...
At nikkaz even talking about 98, and not knowing what above the clouds is.
shyt,...if you so-called into gangsta rap.
Then do not know the guru/scarface record.
You need to be quiet.


Art Barr

Goes to next door neighbor's crib and looks at gangstarr plaque for mot.
 

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Brown Skin Lady is THE song off black star. When j Rawls starts messing with the pitch on the sp on the bridge it was solidified.
 

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That's crazy. Sure there were a few clunkers on the album, and Talib is always gonna have flow issues - but there's just too many classic records on that album. And the beats were crazy. Plus it was so substantive. I can see an argument that it's not classic, but 3.5 is crazy.



Actually 3.5 is the only other mark you can give blackstar.
Talib, is the only reason why I would see that album not getting a classic everywhere.
Yet, 3.5 is always the go to rating.
for a record that is more than likely Classic and reviewed wrong
Or 3.5, is always the record revised via jay, revision propaganda.
That is boosted to a classic from 3.5.

Most of the mid to late 90's classic records were reviewed erroneously, as 3.5.
Which is why you will never see me give a record that mark, in general.

I will either give it, its just due as a classic, originally.
Or I will never rate it 3.5.

3.5, is the classic standard bearer for erroneously reviewed records in rap as a law.
Which is why if I see anyone giving it that mark, ever.
I know they are full of shyt, to mis-informed.
Plus, lack the real knowledge of hip hop culturally to review rap records.
for me to give you a 3.5.
You got to be making obfcl or resurrection type records and I know nobody is making those types of erroneously reviewed classic records.
Blackstar is a classic moment in the original holy grail/knights of the templar of the culture.
When the culture was supposed to be properly defended.
It is one of the few records where a 3.5 is justifiable.
Not to many rap albums have come out and been 3.5's since the late nineties.
For example,...
Future dirty sprite is a 3.5 record.
Only off the fact future lyrically does not rap well enough.
Scarface emeritus is a possible classic respectfully.
I would honor a 3.5 for after this time period, too.

It is only a few records to get that 3.5 mark and realistically be that grade of material.




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If you make a classic,....
I will review it as such.

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That's crazy. Sure there were a few clunkers on the album, and Talib is always gonna have flow issues - but there's just too many classic records on that album. And the beats were crazy. Plus it was so substantive. I can see an argument that it's not classic, but 3.5 is crazy.


Meh. It was kinda corny in spots. Children's story and b boys whatever...and I can only really call a few songs outstanding. 3.5 mics is a fair rating.
 

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Brown Skin Lady is THE song off black star. When j Rawls starts messing with the pitch on the sp on the bridge it was solidified.

funny story,....
We were at a cookout and blackstar was playing.
Brown skin lady comes on and out of all people at the cookout.
Some whitewoman who was spacey as fukk, high.
Came and changed it.
Whole party was gon kill this chick till somebody turned it back on.

You fukk with brownskin lady when it comes on,.....
You starting some shyt....


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Like, Black Star had to live up to Fortified Live/2000 Seasons & Universal Magnetic IMO.

Only a handful of songs were on that level to me
 

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funny story,....
We were at a cookout and blackstar was playing.
Brown skin lady comes on and out of all people at the cookout.
Some whitewoman who was spacey as fukk, high.
Came and changed it.
Whole party was gon kill this chick till somebody turned it back on.

You fukk with brownskin lady when it comes on,.....
You starting some shyt....


Art Barr

I bought two sp 1200's. well, bought one and strong armed another from a roommate who owed rent all from how Rawls was utilizing it on that specific song.
 

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Like, Black Star had to live up to Fortified Live/2000 Seasons & Universal Magnetic IMO.

Only a handful of songs were on that level to me

this,....
Those records set the bar so high for themselves.
Plus,talib has no moment on blackstar.
That is seeing mister man verse from fortified live.
On top of the foreshadow, of being outrapped there and not really having the full skillset to outdo those records.
So, blackstar was already fighting an uphill battle quality wise for a classic.
What made that record memorable was the draw from fortified live and universal magnetic.
Both all time greats,...
Plus the best moments of a lackluster jiggy filled year outside of the delayed krs album predating it in 97.

I still remember cop'n magazine vinyl inserts in doubles for that blackstar promo though.
Truely one of the better throwback moments for vinyl/record collecting at the time.
That and the bjork ten incher's were sacred items for me at that time.


Art Barr
 

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Lol,...
At you being a Blackman and not knowing who or what brown skin lady is, off top/gp.
You not even qualified to speak on these records or the time.
If you do not even know that just for starters.

Lol,...
At nikkaz even talking about 98, and not knowing what above the clouds is.
shyt,...if you so-called into gangsta rap.
Then do not know the guru/scarface record.
You need to be quiet.


Art Barr

Goes to next door neighbor's crib and looks at gangstarr plaque for mot.
You're not an authority to me at all. Talib is boring as fukk and a run-of-the-mil talent. Nobody cares about the gangstarr/scarface record. :manny:
 
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