12 Years a Slave Premiers to Standing Ovation, Oscar Lockdown

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Can anyone explain to me why Brad Pitt has ever been a big draw, though? I've honestly only enjoyed him in a couple of films.
 

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Amistad
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Breh our history started before slavery in America. Unless there is a movie that focuses on that history I won't support it. I'm not saying the movie will not have great performances or it won't win oscars bc it probaby will. I refuse to accept and support movies that focuses on the lowest part of our history while ignoring our highest points.

Where are the movies that tell us of our folklore and ancient literature, where are the movies about our old empires, did we not have those? Why aren't black directors taking that mantle and challenge and showing us that part of our history.

Roots was a series, not a movie, and has many historical inaccuracies, despite being an important work. Amistad was sanitized, Spielbergized, and inaccurate, Sankofa isn't a Hollywood film (it's actually an African film, ironic considering your point,) and Glory is about the civil war period.

Basically, what I'm saying is that there isn't as much out there, especially when you're talking good, accurate, well-made media on the history of slavery. It's a wide history, too, so 4 or 5 films doesn't really cut it. Glory's context is very different from Roots, for example.

As for Africa, for me, it's too late for all that. Movies about African history in general are fine, but to tie the ancestry of a mixed up, long-separated group to any particular people in Africa would be reaching. I'm not into all that DNA ancestry testing- it's inaccurate, vague, and relies on false assumptions (should Black folks who have more European than African DNA celebrate that and go visit European villages and learn their languages?) I'm fine with general Black solidarity and African history, but it's not as relevant to me as the more immediate and direct history of slavery, which produced a new people- modern Black Americans.
 
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Roots was a series, not a movie, and has many historical inaccuracies, despite being an important work. Amistad was sanitized, Spielbergized, and inaccurate, Sankofa isn't a Hollywood film (it's actually an African film, ironic considering your point,) and Glory is about the civil war period.

For reals. When I saw that list I was all :upsetfavre:

I'm about through with y'all "We need some more black movies, but ion wanna see no black movies" dudes. Y'all need to start making movies...



That said, I probably won't see this. lol
 

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As good as it sounds, I wouldn't say it's got a BP lockdown just yet (although it'll definitely get nominated).

Let's not forget that's what they said about Zero Dark Thirty around this time last year.
And Hugo the year before that.
And The Social Network the year before that.
And Up in the Air the year before that.
And Atonement the year before that.
And Babel the year before that.
And don't forget Brokeback Mountain the year before that.

Get my drift? It's to early to call.
 
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Roots was a series, not a movie, and has many historical inaccuracies, despite being an important work. Amistad was sanitized, Spielbergized, and inaccurate, Sankofa isn't a Hollywood film (it's actually an African film, ironic considering your point,) and Glory is about the civil war period.

Basically, what I'm saying is that there isn't as much out there, especially when you're talking good, accurate, well-made media on the history of slavery. It's a wide history, too, so 4 or 5 films doesn't really cut it. Glory's context is very different from Roots, for example.

As for Africa, for me, it's too late for all that. Movies about African history in general are fine, but to tie the ancestry of a mixed up, long-separated group to any particular people in Africa would be reaching. I'm not into all that DNA ancestry testing- it's inaccurate, vague, and relies on false assumptions (should Black folks who have more European than African DNA celebrate that and go visit European villages and learn their languages?) I'm fine with general Black solidarity and African history, but it's not as relevant to me as the more immediate and direct history of slavery, which produced a new people- modern Black Americans.

This is where we completely disagre. Everyday we are reminded of our slave past in this nation while our pre-slavery history is widely ignored. Social and economical policies do a find job of reminding me that America still considers me a second class citizen. Many a books have ben written describing the horrors of slavery. Are we to ignore our pre-slavery past and solely focus on the atrocities which occurred during slavery? Do ur pre-slavery history hold no merit. I say no and I will not define myself by such standards. Do I know exactly where in Africa my ancestors came from? No. But I do Know Africa is a continent with a rich history which contained many great empires of people of my color and race. I wanna be shown the greatness that we accomplished. While many of those movies I mentioned did have inaccuracies they did portray the brutality of slavery. I want to see the flip side of my history on screen the greatness of my history.
 

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Can anyone explain to me why Brad Pitt has ever been a big draw, though? I've honestly only enjoyed him in a couple of films.

Apparently he only has a cameo appearance in the movie for a couple min they're just using his name to sell the movie more. I always liked his flicks tho :yeshrug:
 

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How many other major Black slave movies have there been, honestly? Not many, which is strange, considering how much race is still a focus in this country. And most of the movies made thus far are deeply flawed.

Breh a black director making a movie on slavery :lupe: prepare to see Dallas buyers club win everything and Matt and hanks fighting for best actor , while Denzel receives a random nomination for 2 guns just because they don't want to acknowledge this subject . Idk if I can watch this in theaters after those django scenes of Mandingo fighting were making me cringe and seeing him and broomhilda run away :to:
 

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A lot of cacs in this thread....

It aint even about that bro. All of the films I named (scroll up) were early Oscar front runners too and none of them won.

12 Years has some big competition:

Inside Llewyn Davis
The Butler
American Hustle
Rush
Saving Mr. Banks
Gravity
Nebraska
Fox Catcher
Captain Phillips
The Wolf of Wall Street
The Counselor
All is Lost
Monument Men
Out of the Furnace

I hate to sound like one of those newscasters that you see on election night, but it's just way to early to call right now. Festival buzz really means nothing.
 
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Watch how quiet those white directors get after Mcqueen makes his point about minority lead actors.

Lol at all the directors getting quiet :snoop: pathetic man . America Needs his realness thrown in their faces ! This movie will be a reminder to all the oh you have a black president it's a even playing field now guys stop complaining .
 

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I understand people's frustrations because it is a slave movie and even if it doesn't appease whites, it just goes to show that Hollywood and the Arts don't like depicting us as multifaceted. But at the same time, white people like to tell us shyt like "stop playing the race card" and "slavery was such a long time ago". They'll try to make themselves look good, when we know that all of them were complicit with it. Heck, our schools try to teach us that Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves. :comeon:But I am not going to rule this out based purely on the fact that people need to see just how terrible that time period was and how a seemingly free man Solomon Northrup was stolen and enslaved.


My only other qualm with this is the fact that they need to cast an African American, not an African Brit. But regardless, Chiwetel is a great actor and from what I've heard he's the bookies favorite for at least a Best Actor nom.
 
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