11/23 PBC on FOX PPV | Wilder vs Ortiz II

[patscorpio]

Is Uysk supposed to fight the winner of Ruiz/Joshua or is that just bullshyt?

usyk is the wbo mandatory..it all depends on which sanctioning body is up first after the winner of ruiz or joshua

 

[Loose]

Since when did everyone start overrating ortiz

 

[patscorpio]

Since when did everyone start overrating ortiz

thats the million dollar question...if you look at any ortiz posts/fight threads pre 1st wilder fight....it wasnt like that..the win over BY was a good win and it should be acknowledged as such but it is his best win

combination of wilder's best wins before ortiz was stiverne who he won the belt from...and liakhovich being the only other past/current champion he's beaten

and bam you have this

 

[The Ruler 09]

LOL how many rounds do you think it would go?

Maybe 12, Usyk can knock people out but not sure if that will translate to heavyweight, his boxing skill will though against most but he’ll face a huge challenge against the huge elite fighters. So maybe full 12, that would be my first guess, 2nd is a late stoppage , maybe around 11.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Is Uysk supposed to fight the winner of Ruiz/Joshua or is that just bullshyt?

Yeah he is, but he may take an adaptation fight before. But 1 of them could vacate and then if so he could fight someone else for the vacant. He has a mandatory spot waiting for him yeah.

 

[R=G]

Yeah he is, but he may take an adaptation fight before. But 1 of them could vacate and then if so he could fight someone else for the vacante. He has a mandatory spot waiting for him yeah.

Vacate? As if run from him? Why would they consider such a thing?

 

[Master Teacher]

Since when did everyone start overrating ortiz

who's overrating him, none of the other heavyweights want to fight him for a reason

Look what Otto Wallin did to Fury, he trash but that southpaw style bothered Fury and he didn't know what to do, imagine if he was going against Ortiz who got real power in that left land he would pick Fury apart

Wilder has fought the worst match ups possible for him in the division FUry and Ortiz, Ortiz more so because he has a counter puncher who can KO him something he doesn't have to worry about against Fury

 

[Conscious Pilot]

That Was a serious cut on Fury . After the Wallin fight , Tyson’s demeanor and whole vibe of the fight being in February seemed like it ain’t gonna happen . The rematch if it it happens wont be in February, I don’t believe it until we hear about negotiations.

 

[FreedMind]

Since when did everyone start overrating ortiz

Even you couldn't name 10 better names then Ortiz. He's a top ten heavy right now, can't call him a cherry pick.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Vacate? As if run from him? Why would they consider such a thing?

Because there may be 2 mandatory’s with 2 different sanctioning bodies called at the same time. Think Pulev is the other 1, I’d imagine both would choose Pulev over Usyk.

 

[Loose]

who's overrating him, none of the other heavyweights want to fight him for a reason

AJ tried to fight him as the replacement offered him a lot of money actually ..fight fell thru. No ones "ducking," ortiz they have zero reasoning to actually fight him. He has never positioned himself as a top contender for a belt.

Even you couldn't name 10 better names then Ortiz. He's a top ten heavy right now, can't call him a cherry pick.

At age 41 I consider him a cherry pick, I named 9 better.

 

[Master Teacher]

AJ tried to fight him as the replacement offered him a lot of money actually ..fight fell thru. No ones "ducking," ortiz they have zero reasoning to actually fight him. He has never positioned himself as a top contender for a belt.

At age 41 I consider him a cherry pick, I named 9 better.

nevermind, I see you wanna of those reality TV type of boxing fans

nothing you said has anything to do with Ortiz's skill set, he's the only heavyweight with these skills everything else you said irrelevant, JOshua turned down the fight when he was his WBA mandatory and promised him the fight later if he stepped aside this was said by Hearn himself, DIllian Whyte turned down the fight, Tyson Fury hasn't fought any heavyweight ranked in the top ten besides Wilder, just stop it

 

[Skip b]

That fat CAC let an unknown fighter by the name of Otto Wallin put a nasty cut on his face and took him 12 rounds to beat.

If Wilder opens back this cut

Fury was off that coke this fight on the low, he doesn't give a fukk about boxing giving so.....Fukk em let him wrastle

 

[Skip b]

Yeah, that's what I was saying, we don't know how he carries to heavyweight 100 percent but he's extremely accomplished at Crusierweight, also he's fought at heavyweight in amateurs before and also he's not a tiny, intact isn't he 6'3 which is the same height as Ortiz? And significantly younger. Usyk may struggle against the much bigger heavyweights, Wilder, AJ, Fury and the giants but he should be beating most if not everybody the same height. Ortiz I think he would comfortably win against, his footwork would be too much, he'd be hitting him then moving constantly and probably get a wide points win or even a stoppage. That would be a good adaptation fight for Usyk at heavyweight actually. Wilder is a different breed, 1 mistake and he could knock Usyk out, Ortiz isn't really known for 1 punch power like that.

Usyk is a punching bag at Heavy


I seen someone trying to say that straight up n down cac is a better boxer than Ortiz

 

[malbaker86]

LOL i cant see him beating Ortiz, i just don't. His feet aren't THAT good at heavy judging off his last fight.

He'd wash Ortiz