11/23 PBC on FOX PPV | Wilder vs Ortiz II

[bigbadbossup2012]

Could happen, Wilder could knock anybody out if he lands, my guess would be it would be harder than that, I think Usyk would outbox Wilder early then maybe get caught at some point. Usyk is a lot better than Ortiz, way better feet, he may be able to come up with a gameplan to avoid the shots. I don’t think it’s a foregone conclusion but of course if Wilder lands would hurt him badly.

You really think usyk is better than Ortiz?that's white boy babble, fukk outta here

 

[MrWestGrand]

Wilder is ATG status in my book. To have Floyd, then have him come after this era has been great to witness.

I remember when ol heads use to talk about Ernie Shavers and his punching power, so I cant wait to tell my future grand babies about Wilder...

 

[The Ruler 09]

You really think usyk is better than Ortiz?that's white boy babble, fukk outta here

Usyk is way better than Ortiz, you can't be serious. He's a way more accomplished fighter. You're speaking like a casual that doesn't know about boxing at all. We'll see how he translates to heavyweight over time as no-one knows that for sure yet but he's way more accomplished than Ortiz who hasn't really beaten any elite fighters while Usyk completely cleaned out his division.

 

[Liu Kang]

Usyk is way better than Ortiz, you can't be serious. He's a way more accomplished fighter. You're speaking like a casual that doesn't know about boxing at all. We'll see how he translates to heavyweight over time as no-one knows that for sure yet but he's way more accomplished than Ortiz who hasn't really beaten any elite fighters while Usyk completely cleaned out his division.

He's way better as CW, let's wait til he tastes HW power before throwing any conclusions. Gassiev wobbled him briefly in their fight and he would be a small HW and Usyk didnt even get to face the hardest punchers at CW like Duttykos or the other Russian dude so we dont really know about his chin yet. The skills are definitely here but as proven by Wilder, technique isnt the only thing that matters as HW.

 

[The Ruler 09]

He's way better as CW, let's wait til he tastes HW power before throwing any conclusions. Gassiev wobbled him briefly in their fight and he would be a small HW and Usyk didnt even get to face the hardest punchers at CW like Duttykos or the other Russian dude so we dont really know about his chin yet. The skills are definitely here but as proven by Wilder, technique isnt the only thing that matters as HW.

Yeah, that's what I was saying, we don't know how he carries to heavyweight 100 percent but he's extremely accomplished at Crusierweight, also he's fought at heavyweight in amateurs before and also he's not a tiny, infact isn't he 6'3 which is the same height as Ortiz? And significantly younger. Usyk may struggle against the much bigger heavyweights, Wilder, AJ, Fury and the giants but he should be beating most if not everybody the same height. Ortiz I think he would comfortably win against, his footwork would be too much, he'd be hitting him then moving constantly and probably get a wide points win or even a stoppage. That would be a good adaptation fight for Usyk at heavyweight actually. Wilder is a different breed, 1 mistake and he could knock Usyk out, Ortiz isn't really known for 1 punch power like that.

 

[The axe murderer]

He's way better as CW, let's wait til he tastes HW power before throwing any conclusions. Gassiev wobbled him briefly in their fight and he would be a small HW and Usyk didnt even get to face the hardest punchers at CW like Duttykos or the other Russian dude so we dont really know about his chin yet. The skills are definitely here but as proven by Wilder, technique isnt the only thing that matters as HW.

Big question there too. HW power is no joke and wilder can end anyone.

 

[dem bath salts]

It's probably gotten to the point of, if you're not hurting wilder, then ur losing, right?

He's just waiting to unleash that Monster on you.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Usyk is way better than Ortiz, you can't be serious. He's a way more accomplished fighter. You're speaking like a casual that doesn't know about boxing at all. We'll see how he translates to heavyweight over time as no-one knows that for sure yet but he's way more accomplished than Ortiz who hasn't really beaten any elite fighters while Usyk completely cleaned out his division.

Yea lets see how he translates, first fight at heavy was totally unimpressive. I'd love to see him fight Ortiz next. What elite fighter did usyk beat?

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Yeah, that's what I was saying, we don't know how he carries to heavyweight 100 percent but he's extremely accomplished at Crusierweight, also he's fought at heavyweight in amateurs before and also he's not a tiny, intact isn't he 6'3 which is the same height as Ortiz? And significantly younger. Usyk may struggle against the much bigger heavyweights, Wilder, AJ, Fury and the giants but he should be beating most if not everybody the same height. Ortiz I think he would comfortably win against, his footwork would be too much, he'd be hitting him then moving constantly and probably get a wide points win or even a stoppage. That would be a good adaptation fight for Usyk at heavyweight actually. Wilder is a different breed, 1 mistake and he could knock Usyk out, Ortiz isn't really known for 1 punch power like that.

LOL i cant see him beating Ortiz, i just don't. His feet aren't THAT good at heavy judging off his last fight.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Yea lets see how he translates, first fight at heavy was totally unimpressive. I'd love to see him fight Ortiz next. What elite fighter did usyk beat?

Yeah, it’s early, we’ll see how he translates over time. His first fight at heavyweight wasn’t mindblowing but he still made him quit in the 7th. His style is to wear somebody down. He did his job, his style is to wear someone down first then stoppage if possible. And we’ve had that conversation already, he is a gold medalist and undisputed champion at his weight class so he beat the best amateur and pro.

 

[The Ruler 09]

LOL i cant see him beating Ortiz, i just don't. His feet aren't THAT good at heavy judging off his last fight.

That’s cool, that’s your opinion which is fair enough but personally I think Usyk would beat Ortiz comfortably. Usyk’s footwork is elite, don’t judge off 1 fight, it’s not like he was even bad in that fight, he was fine, dominated and then made him quit, he’s like Loma in the sense he can make fighters quit. I’d put money on Usyk beating Ortiz, would really like to see that fight. I don’t think Ortiz would get close to him, will just keep getting hit over and over again. Think it would be domination. Ortiz wasn’t really the very best at amateur or pro, Usyk is much more accomplished. Ortiz doesn’t really have any great wins on his record, he’s a bit of a myth. I do think he’s good but he’s not top 5 and possibly not top 10, somebody like Dubois would knock Ortiz out cold. I respect Ortiz as a boxer though, he’s good and solid but not the very elite, Szpikla gave Wilder a tricky time for a while too and he’s not elite either.

 

[Waterproof]

If Wilder ever hit me with That Right Hand, The First Thing I'm going to do when I wake up from my Coma in the hospital is reached for the room phone and Call the Police

That's if I still have my memory

Wilder knocking out nikkas and they wake up with new personalities

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

That’s cool, that’s your opinion which is fair enough but personally I think Usyk would beat Ortiz comfortably. Usyk’s footwork is elite, don’t judge off 1 fight, it’s not like he was even bad in that fight, he was fine, dominated and then made him quit, he’s like Loma in the sense he can make fighters quit. I’d put money on Usyk beating Ortiz, would really like to see that fight. I don’t think Ortiz would get close to him, will just keep getting hit over and over again. Think it would be domination. Ortiz wasn’t really the very best at amateur or pro, Usyk is much more accomplished. Ortiz doesn’t really have any great wins on his record, he’s a bit of a myth. I do think he’s good but he’s not top 5 and possibly not top 10, somebody like Dubois would knock Ortiz out cold. I respect Ortiz as a boxer though, he’s good and solid but not the very elite, Szpikla gave Wilder a tricky time for a while too and he’s not elite either.

LOL how many rounds do you think it would go?

 

[R=G]

 

[R=G]

That’s cool, that’s your opinion which is fair enough but personally I think Usyk would beat Ortiz comfortably. Usyk’s footwork is elite, don’t judge off 1 fight, it’s not like he was even bad in that fight, he was fine, dominated and then made him quit, he’s like Loma in the sense he can make fighters quit. I’d put money on Usyk beating Ortiz, would really like to see that fight. I don’t think Ortiz would get close to him, will just keep getting hit over and over again. Think it would be domination. Ortiz wasn’t really the very best at amateur or pro, Usyk is much more accomplished. Ortiz doesn’t really have any great wins on his record, he’s a bit of a myth. I do think he’s good but he’s not top 5 and possibly not top 10, somebody like Dubois would knock Ortiz out cold. I respect Ortiz as a boxer though, he’s good and solid but not the very elite, Szpikla gave Wilder a tricky time for a while too and he’s not elite either.

Is Uysk supposed to fight the winner of Ruiz/Joshua or is that just bullshyt?