11/23 PBC on FOX PPV | Wilder vs Ortiz II

[Skip b]

Ortiz did much better fight one he fought too scared here...He was supposed to attack Wilder early

All the Wilder haters can't post one impactful shot from Ortiz in 7 rounds

Fight was boring and slow af, both looked super cautious and then BAM! Fights over. I feel sorry for anybody that paid for it.

 

[ComorianKid]

Wow incredible fight, wilders right hand is truly demonic. Wilder also has a great chin.

 

[Skip b]

Or you can out box him and pull a fury, minus the fury knockdowns.

The thing is Wilder is so crude, that you don't notice he actually is employing some very good skill and strategy.
His crudeness fools people, to Wilder's benefit.

The way he came out early in the 7th and threw the left hook to the body of ortiz, and then started throwing it heavy to his head and shoulders, then pulled it and threw the straight right is strategically smart, but no one will talk about how he smartly setup that right, they'll just attribute it to Ortiz losing focus or "blowing it" which is great for Deontay, because people continue to strangely underestimate him.

Wilder was setting him up the whole time turning Ortiz to where he wanted with lefts upstairs n to the body

 

[Mike_Pipeson]

Ortiz was beating Wilder ass, including the round he got knocked out in. I had him 6-0 maybe 5-1 at worse

His mistake was being overly aggressive in the last 10 seconds of a round he was whooping Wilder ass in

He moved away from the cautious game plan that was winning and it cost him the fight with literal seconds left that he coulda just stalled out and head to round 8

Very boring and disappointing fight. The knock out was entertaining but thats the only highlight of 2 goliath of humans have in 7 full rounds

This can't be your only time watching Wilder fight?!?! So many of his current fights have him "backpedaling" until his Dynamite destroys his opponent. Even his short ass fights

 

[Black_Jesus]

Wilder is the real life One Punch Man for those familiar with the cartoon

 

[The axe murderer]

Or you can out box him and pull a fury, minus the fury knockdowns.

The thing is Wilder is so crude, that you don't notice he actually is employing some very good skill and strategy.
His crudeness fools people, to Wilder's benefit.

The way he came out early in the 7th and threw the left hook to the body of ortiz, and then started throwing it heavy to his head and shoulders, then pulled it and threw the straight right is strategically smart, but no one will talk about how he smartly setup that right, they'll just attribute it to Ortiz losing focus or "blowing it" which is great for Deontay, because people continue to strangely underestimate him.

I compared him to Marciano because he is crude with power, stamina and uses that crude awkwardness to their advantage.
Even the rhythm is awkward and catches people off guard.
Plus they use their dimensions wilder his height and athleticism, Rocky his shortness and they can be harder to hit than you think.
They are both relatively light heavies.
They can always change the fight even late on w that power. It's no coincidence they have ridiculous ko percentage. shyt is hard to prepare for

 

[David_TheMan]

Wilder was setting him up the whole time turning Ortiz to where he wanted with lefts upstairs n to the body

He really didnt get into setting Orti up until late 6 and all 7th. Imho

 

[David_TheMan]

I compared him to Marciano because he is crude with power, stamina and uses that crude awkwardness to their advantage.
Even the rhythm is awkward and catches people off guard.
Plus they use their dimensions wilder his height and athleticism, Rocky his shortness and they can be harder to hit than you think.
They are both relatively light heavies.
They can always change the fight even late on w that power. It's no coincidence they have ridiculous ko percentage. shyt is hard to prepare for

I think the marciano comparison is spot on in terms of career and extremely weak HW eras.

 

[Skip b]

He really didnt get into setting Orti up until late 6 and all 7th. Imho

The pawing jab from round 1 as well, he couldve thrown heavy jabs like vs stiverne...he took his time vs a southpaw and didn't give Ortiz anything to counter, exactly why Ortiz ain't land shyt here...yet y'all think Wilder is some dummy fighter

 

[David_TheMan]

The pawing jab from round 1 as well, he couldve thrown heavy jabs like vs stiverne...he took his time vs a southpaw and didn't give Ortiz anything to counter, exactly why Ortiz ain't land shyt here...yet y'all think Wilder is some dummy fighter

Didn't see that at all. I noticed in round 6, he started using his left to slap down and try setup the right. They were both thinking in there.

 

[The axe murderer]

I think the marciano comparison is spot on in terms of career and extremely weak HW eras.

If you told me he'd be the 6th hw to get 10 consecutive defenses I'd have

 

[#1 pick]

This morning I'm still

If you was making a boxing game Wilders stats would be...

Footwork - 0/10

Overall Skills - 2/10

Left hand power 9/10

Right hand power 20/10

He isn't the quickest guy but

Stamina - 9/10
Speed - 9/10 which is crazy for his size
Reach - 10/10
Feel for the ring - 10/10
Chin - 8/10

I honestly think his high-level Basketball experience helped his feel for the game in boxing. I feel like if he started young, he would just focus on being a knockout specialist who has solid skills. Right now, he is like an elite NBA shot blocker. He knows he can't block every shot but he uses his feel for blocking shots v. the offensive player to prevent efficient play and eventually he will get his blocks. In the case of boxing, he is getting knockouts.

 

[Master Teacher]

This narrative of Wilder have no boxing skills needs to stop, you don't KO Ortiz an educated technical fighter twice without boxing skills
He conditioned Ortiz saw how he reacted to the right hand, which he was kinda looping when he threw it, and Ortiz would catch it with his glove, which he tried to do you see his hand go up to block the punch, but wilder cut a angle on him because he knew he was going to try to block the same way was before and landed straight down the pipe, he also threw fast which his other right hands didn't come out fast so Ortiz was not ready for it, master class

 

[NormanConnors]

i honestly dont think he hits THAT hard with his left hand..i think its "normal" level for HW...other insane punchers typically had the same level of power in both their hands...hell even the nikka i compare him to all the time, randall bailey, could ice with you both hands even though his right hand was potent..unless im drawing a blank i dont think wilder has scored a KO with his left

To me breh doesnt throw the left correctly all that often, power is there, breh is heavy handed/can move cats back with the jab. That's why I was hoping his camp would at least bring Lennox in as an advisor. He didnt have a left at all until Manny gave him the upgrade

 

[NormanConnors]

Ortiz did much better fight one he fought too scared here...He was supposed to attack Wilder early

All the Wilder haters can't post one impactful shot from Ortiz in 7 rounds

Ortiz wasn't trying to get caught, no way he was going to attack early. If he did the fight would have been over quicker than it was. Plus Wilder can counter decent as well/was making Ortiz miss with his left at times.