10 years ago Kanye ended 50 cent music career

[Vinny Lupton]

50 Won.

this song really saved the Curl'tis album. He was struggling to get something hot out there for a min


edit - also I remember the story of that beat. The dude that sent them the beat stole it, so he didnt have the files and couldnt figure out how to replay it, and they finally tracked down the real guy who made the beat

 

[GetRichOrDieTryin]

But you quoted me out the blue to wrongfully assert that Graduation is on the same level of GRODT. That's definitely out of the stan playbook.

It doesn't take a genius to figure this out. You ask your average hip hop head, and not some suburban casual, and they'll tell you GRODT > Graduation. Hip hop in general will always side with stuff that's more street in sound. You really think "Flashing Lights" and "Good Life" hit the hip hop community as hard as "In Da Club" and "Many Men?" Cmon. Why even bother playing dumb

to your point,

 

[Alvin]

definitely changed the soundscape for rap music and allowed people to be themselves instead of being a gangster. But 50 didn't lose, he went gold first week and platinum after that, second they both are signed to universal

 

[SirBiatch]

definitely changed the soundscape for rap music and allowed people to be suburban culture vultures instead of being a hip hop fan. But 50 didn't lose, he went gold first week and platinum after that, second they both are signed to universal

fixed

 

[Alvin]

fixed

eh you could say that, when it became safer, those type of people emerge because they have no fear or threat of getting beat up or clapped

 

[vdfebduderocks]

Thoughts:

1) Graduation was the first Kanye album that didn't rely on his old demo beat tapes. This was mostly new Kanye production.

2) 50 was pretty much already declining at this point, over-saturating G-Unit records. By that time, Mobb Deep's album sucked, Banks sophomore effort was bleh, Buck's was bleh, M.O.P. didn't do anything, Young Hot Rod was a joke.... 50 was motivated earlier by beef with Ja and eventually beef with Jada, Joe, and Nas, amongst others. Once those beefs died down, 50 had nothing new to bring.

3) This was the album 50 should have tried to work with Dre on a full-time basis, but I think Dre was busy on Em's Relapse joint.

 

[Unknown Poster]

Maaaan I wish I could find the video of (I think a CNN) reporter had interviewed 50 Cent
the day once the album sales rolled infor him and Kanye. 50 Cent looked so depressed, sad
and defeated that.

Like a poster said earlier in this thread, This was one of the most significant
movements in hiphop history, It changed the landscape of hiphop.

Yep.
Singlehandedly changed the face of hip hop.
50 and g-unit dominated the 00s.
Then Ye took over for the 10s.
And the style and direction of rap started to change
The gangsta image started dying
The fashionable swag raps started taking over...

 

[reserved_one]

Graduation is my favorite Kanye album imo...it had his best singles, his best production and was the last time he was his normal self before the dramatic change in his behavior and his Musik. It was also the first Kanye album I heard in full.

Curtis was so lackluster....Its one of the worst rap albums of the 00s. Only Songs that was worth keeping we're I get money, fully loaded clip and I still Kill.

 

[obarth]

But you quoted me out the blue to wrongfully assert that Graduation is on the same level of GRODT. That's definitely out of the stan playbook.

It doesn't take a genius to figure this out. You ask your average hip hop head, and not some suburban casual, and they'll tell you GRODT > Graduation. Hip hop in general will always side with stuff that's more street in sound. You really think "Flashing Lights" and "Good Life" hit the hip hop community as hard as "In Da Club" and "Many Men?" Cmon. Why even bother playing dumb

"Hip hop in general will always"(oxymoronic as hell, but whatever), yet the thread we're talking about is a thread about hip hop choosing Ye's music over 50's. So apparently you're not up on what hip hop will or will not always do

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

whatever happened to that interview where Camron was in the projects with a colorful leather on?

I cant find it on the tube anymore.

he basically summed up 50 cent's status in a nutshell in that interview.

50 cent for all intents and purposes is
a gangsta rapper. Whether or not the streets messed with his brand of gangsta rap near the end of his career doesn't change that IMO.

And he's used as the personification of the "Street/Gangsta" rapper because he represents the heights it would reach and inevitable crash it would endure.

He was right there when it reached astronomical heights of commercial success
and was there when it began to ultimately fade into irrelevance (on a mainstream level at least).

when you say gangsta rap, I moreso think of the west coast late '80s-90s stuff and all the flagging.

gangsta rap was just an off-shoot of what schooly d was already doing out in philly.

so yea, I usually don't categorize east coast street rappers as gangsta rap, seeing that it predates it. but I will say that 50 cent/g-unit were the embodiment of gangsta rap stars. hence, one of the reasons why they sold more than the dblocks, state props & such.

so yea, I have no problem with 50 cent being categorized as gangsta rap. just wanted some clarification on that comment.

 

[UpAndComing]

In hindsight, 50 was kind of stupid for doing that

Like people said, he was already on sort of a decline prior to this sales beef. What he could have done is make this into a "Friendly competition". It would have boosted both him and Kayne's sales and but him back in the spotlight. But his ego ruined it all

 

[Kings County]

This was 50 already on the ropes. After Game went in on G-Unit, everything started to crumble. Tony Yayo's debut didn't do as well as Banks or Buck's. Bankd and Buck's second albums didn't do as well as their debuts.

The nail in 50's coffin in regard to his career was Ross. They both dropped albums in '09 at the height of their beef and 50's album barely outsold Ross. To make matters worse, he couldn't secure a release date for future albums on Interscope. Meanwhile, Ross went on to go on a monster run.

lol game and ross didnt end 50... if 50 was still releasing high caliber music he'd still be on top but he's not
fif made a remarkable transfer into business and film

 

[Ineedmoney504]

Kanye didn't do shyt

Jimmy set 50 up to fail. How can they compete being on the same label

Kanye on def jam

 

[Canada Goose]

I was a huge 50 stan growing up but I rooted hard for Ye hard in this sales battles, Ye's subject matter was so much better, 50 music was mostly shoot em up, bang bang raps, shyt gets after a while, Ye had that positive, uplifting music

 

[JustCKing]

lol game and ross didnt end 50... if 50 was still releasing high caliber music he'd still be on top but he's not
fif made a remarkable transfer into business and film

50 could've released Illmatic and it wouldn't have mattered at that point. His career was based on belittling his peers and he often used sales to justify his W's. Well, Game and Ross applied pressure. There was also Cam. It wasn't looking for 50 Cent from '06 forward. Ross should've been ended. As dope as Deeper Than Rap was, Ross was declining. It should've been nothing for 50 to end him. What happens? Ross not only walks away unscathed, but becomes one of the biggest rappers in the game. Dude even got a Dre feature when 50 was complaining that Dre wouldn't mix his records. And there's this: