Yvette Carnell (w/ Dr. Tommy Curry) - Straight Black Men are the White Men of Black People? 9/20/17

[cornercommission2k12]

as far as wars taking place in comment sections, its hard to determine if thats even black men vs black women or black gays vs black men etc, hell it could be white supremacist using their black profile to rile up the division more as they are trained to do in their inner circles.

ive seen a ton of comments from black women tearing this article to shreds.

 

[MajorVitaman]

ive seen even white vloggers bash his article.

quite honestly the only public person ive seen step out and support the notion of this article , was jemele hill. which is pitiful because the article tries to drive home this notion that black men dont stand up for black women, when a black man just put his job on the line to stand tall with her during that backlash last week. smh

Looks like Mickey Mouse gave her a quick meeting

 

[cornercommission2k12]

Looks like Mickey Mouse gave her a quick meeting

its a ridiculous article all the way around

it attempted to talk about the lack of response for black women when they are done wrong by the cops,

while currently the biggest story going on in social media is being lead and continued by black men, in rosemont IL standing tall for what they believe is a cover up and murder of a BLACK WOMAN all while the media is trying hard to sweep the story under the rug. and the litmus test in this guys mind that determines for him whether someone is responsive or not, is if the story is scrolled across the bottom of a tv screen. so black man have privilege because the media likes to repeat over and over black men being killed by cops but wont do that for black women. that is this guys rationale smh.

 

[AlainLocke]

Ok I see what you are saying.
Yes Black men are oppressed.
However That doesn't take away the fact that you guys have a greater direct effect on our community than white men.
I've never said or implied that we have the exact same communal arrangement as white people. It's just an example used to get people especially Black men to think of their role in their community outside the confines of racial oppression.

I'm specifically speaking about Black men's impact of their community not about the strides Black women have made in academia. All women reguardless of race are greater consumers and attend college at a higher rate than their male counterparts.

Black men's progression or lack thereof is in direct correlation to the overall failures of our community. The oppression of Balck men is deliberate because they know it will have a direct effect on the community.
Everyone silently agrees with this but then when it's time for a public discussion about it there is so much Blowback.

Why isn't the success of Black women considered a win for the entire community?
If Black women are in the position to help educate and hire Black men why are we discussing white men instead of Black women and men working together?

What?

How can Black men have a greater direct effect when we as a collective have no power?

And there is no role outside of the confines of racial oppression...

Racial oppression is our existence, there is no existence outside of it...


The problem that Black women have is that they do not understand they are in a difference class than Black men...

I think they really do not get it...

There is no discussion to be had unless Black women are gonna talk about Black male unemployment, Black male incarceration, Black male homelessness, Black male poverty....

Until then...WTF is there to talk about...the life of the average Black man is not even visible in mainstream society...

No Black man out here in these streets...really don't wanna hear about how we beat on Black women and catcalling them...when we ain't the ones doing the shyt...

Or that we get the big piece of chicken...

Or how hearing the word bytch on a song hurts they feelings...

That's middle class college educated liberal bullshyt

These conversations aren't productive...

What's productive...is talking about systemic issues like unemployment, lack of education, lack of health, lack of effective politics and poverty...that's what we suffer from...all these things manifest the heartache and pain...

Things that we can objectively quantify and evaluate and solve...that will have a major impact on the whole...things that increase the quality of life...that's all that matters

All that other shyt belongs on Oprah and in a self help book...

A lot of us just don't care about anything else because it doesn't any sense to us that live in the real world...

 

[Apollo Creed]

ive seen even white vloggers bash his article.

quite honestly the only public person ive seen step out and support the notion of this article , was jemele hill. which is pitiful because the article tries to drive home this notion that black men dont stand up for black women, when a black man just put his job on the line to stand tall with her during that backlash last week. smh

lol breh women only want attention. There is a reason they want inclusion into a system that literally destroys black people. Building is not part of their DNA.

 

[cornercommission2k12]

lol breh women only want attention. There is a reason they want inclusion into a system that literally destroys black people. Building is not part of their DNA.

i wont say all women

but i will say jemele hill was heavily on that "black women arguments over intersectionality" nonsense that you see people like gabrielle union and shondra rhimes heavily into. the aka by all means live like we are in some post racial utopia that grants equal opportunity to all and if its any shortcomings its only due to our own infliction, play stupid as if the institutional racism is simply a misnomer and excuse used by those who dont like to take personal responsibility.

white men are the number 1 killer to white women, didnt stop them from marching and historically always voting with them. same for all groups. only among us is going against your own counterpart seen as liberating and responsible honest opinion. smh

 

[Apollo Creed]

i wont say all women

but i will say jemele hill was heavily on that "black women arguments over intersectionality" nonsense that you see people like gabrielle union and shondra rhimes heavily into. the aka by all means live like we are in some post racial utopia that grants equal opportunity to all and if its any shortcomings its only due to our own infliction, play stupid as if the institutional racism is simply a misnomer and excuse used by those who dont like to take personal responsibility.

white men are the number 1 killer to white women, didnt stop them from marching and historically always voting with them. same for all groups. only among us is going against your own counterpart seen as liberating and responsible honest opinion. smh

The only women who I can say have proved me wrong are all dead. Woman aren't building anything because by nature they simply cant. Very rare do you see a woman become wealthy for something she engineered, and when they do it's usually sold off.

 

[satam55]

Full on gender war on Black twitter happening right now over this article

That nikka Craig's VCR been going off today:

 

[kayslay]

What?

How can Black men have a greater direct effect when we as a collective have no power?

And there is no role outside of the confines of racial oppression...

Racial oppression is our existence, there is no existence outside of it...


The problem that Black women have is that they do not understand they are in a difference class than Black men...

I think they really do not get it...

There is no discussion to be had unless Black women are gonna talk about Black male unemployment, Black male incarceration, Black male homelessness, Black male poverty....

Until then...WTF is there to talk about...the life of the average Black man is not even visible in mainstream society...

No Black man out here in these streets...really don't wanna hear about how we beat on Black women and catcalling them...when we ain't the ones doing the shyt...

Or that we get the big piece of chicken...

Or how hearing the word bytch on a song hurts they feelings...

That's middle class college educated liberal bullshyt

These conversations aren't productive...

What's productive...is talking about systemic issues like unemployment, lack of education, lack of health, lack of effective politics and poverty...that's what we suffer from...all these things manifest the heartache and pain...

Things that we can objectively quantify and evaluate and solve...that will have a major impact on the whole...things that increase the quality of life...that's all that matters

All that other shyt belongs on Oprah and in a self help book...

A lot of us just don't care about anything else because it doesn't any sense to us that live in the real world...

So your issue isn't with Black women your issue is with the lack of representation for Black men?

Black women are in a position to help move the needle as far as Black male education & unemployment. And we are attempting to develop Black political literacy.

We can't accomplish any of these things as a community until we can develop communication between Black men and women.

You can't continue to think a group of people are going to dedicate their resources to your cause if you can't even fathom the empathy to acknowledge theirs.

Everything discussed in that the original article is about to be eradicated by Black men and doesn't require government or political intervention.
These are COMMUNITY ISSUES!
You continuously make this a Women's issue as if what effects Black women doesn't effect Black men.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

ive seen even white vloggers bash his article.

quite honestly the only public person ive seen step out and support the notion of this article , was jemele hill. which is pitiful because the article tries to drive home this notion that black men dont stand up for black women, when a black man just put his job on the line to stand tall with her during that backlash last week. smh

Bomani praised it

 

[William F. Russell]

Black men are out to be completely annihilated. The agendas for the death of Black men is unfortunately succeeding. I hate to say it.

Black men are being annihilated due to:
1. Gay Agenda/Gay Pride
2. No Black Pride Overall
3. Demonic cac females
4. Crack cocaine/weed
5. Prison/Incarceration
6. Shoot to Kill Agenda
7. High Unemployment rate
8. Mixed non-black marriages
9. c00ning train
10. Dependence on cac money

 

[10:31]

Black men are out to be completely annihilated. The agendas for the death of Black men is unfortunately succeeding. I hate to say it.

Black men are being annihilated due to:
1. Gay Agenda/Gay Pride
2. No Black Pride Overall
3. Demonic cac females
4. Crack cocaine/weed
5. Prison/Incarceration
6. Shoot to Kill Agenda
7. High Unemployment rate
8. Mixed non-black marriages
9. c00ning train
10. Dependence on cac money

11. The Democratic Party

 

[William F. Russell]

11. The Democratic Party

Of course. And I'd argue that the Democratic Party has its hand in most of the things Iisted.

 

[marcuz]

11. The Democratic Party

12. the republican party

 

[William F. Russell]

12. the republican party

That goes without saying.

Neither of the major political parties work for the benefit of black people. Period.