Yvette Carnell (w/ Dr. Tommy Curry) - Straight Black Men are the White Men of Black People? 9/20/17

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I notice that a lot of these nu blacks/shea butters like to conflate race and gender onto the same plane.

"[you black men] deflecting this article (and your misogynoir) is exactly like cacs deflecting their racism!"

For a bunch of supposedly intelligent undergrads they keep making the most rookie mistake in an intellectual argument. That is, if they're actually trying to debate anything.

Race and gender are not the same, period.
INTERSECTIONALITY:troll::snoop:
Ehhhh....nah.
It's definitely appealing to more than that alleged subgroup brehs love deflating and dismissing. shyt is on fire, being retweeted, shared , and discussed by the avg love and hip hop watching jawn....and her upper middle class cousin...and her rat sister in the section 8.
All types are absorbing and spreading this fukkshyt. The dismissal and "I'm above it/don't see it" has to go. That's how these extremist cacs got so big and surprised DISMISSIVE brehs who don't observe things outside of their bubbles.
thats what I been trying to tell people.
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Yes they represent a minuscule percentage of the general black female population, but they are the loudest bunch and A LOT OF WOMeN are absorbing their talking point whether they identify as a feminist or not.

like I said these socalled faminists and male simps are some fukking agents man!
 

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Zo Williams x Antionio Moore x Dr Tommy Curry x Yvette Carnell

were all on the Voice of Reason, tonite

shyt

They had a "white men have never....but black men have..." chick :dry: but she got destroyed


I love Mimi :russ:
 

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Where did I say not to address the issue?

I don't think framing anything as a "privilege" is going to be effective. You are playing into the same sectarian rhetoric Black feminist do by doing so.
If you're not willing to be honest about an issue then you don't really want to address it. You're basically on some "yea black women are given advantages over black men.........but we shouldn't call them privileges". Whether you call them advantages or privileges the point is the same.

I'm not playing into anything. I'm simply calling the bullshyt out for what it is. Black women are running around throwing us under the bus with lies that get perpetuated because they don't get checked. This is the result of the black feminist movement that black men have been all too tolerant of over the last 50 years.

After we fix the Black gender schism, what do you think is realistically going to happen next?

I'm all for more kids being born to 2 parent homes with Black fathers as patriarchs/breadwinners and less violence/trauma for Black women but to pretend its going to fix the root issue of economic apartheid is foolish. I hate to say it....but that is up to a few African leaders making smarter moves.
If we are able to fix the relationship with black women then we can repair the family structure. Now there are obviously major hurdles in the way considering that the destruction of our unions have been deliberately orchestrated. Yet if we could repair the black family then things would improve drastically and quite quickly. Economic apartheid fukks us up because we are the only group who don't practice it. If we got on code the economic issues would literally take care of themselves. The issue then would be defense because a united black community on code is a major threat to the white community.

We simply refuse to play the game and wonder why we stay losing on the scoreboard.
There is still hope but all of our efforts have to be to getting reparations and then many creating an exit strategy out of America once you get the funds.

1. My take is that reparations will cost America 4-5 per person. Why?

You have to make the collective whole.

You have to add all of the damage and wealth thats been earned or taken from Blacks. That comes out to an estimate of 1.5-2.5 mil per person. This also includes what land and housing would estimate too as well.

Pain and suffering- 1 million cap.

Cost to raise a successful child, since Blacks are expected the average two children, it should come out to 1.6 mil. The avg cost to raise a child in their 18 years is 800k.

4.6-5.6 million for 45 million people is 207 trillion to 252 trillion dollars.

This would instantly wash away Whites debt for slavery and make Black people whole but this will also put a target on Blacks back regardless if white promise otherwise.

What this does more than anything is give Black people a Plan B which they currently lack today.

2. Plan B

Today plan B is to roll over and die or become field slaves again. That's not a Plan B.

Black folks Plan B has to exist. Once it does, you can then start a strategy for escape.

I personally think it's then you can start working with African nations as you have value to offer. This can't be for the collective but you can cover 4-5k per country, you are in a good position to build.

Have a team, work with the locals, build and adopt the culture and build up Africa while making money in two continents. This whole idea of working with African broke isn't an idea as I don't business with Africa nations, you need moola.

3. What will happen to us? Unless God comes back, we are facing persecution with or without reparations. We just have to understand that we need a lot and reparations as big as it may seem is a far cry when building a community cost tens of millions in today's society. We are living in a 1st world country. We need first world dollars to survive.
You need to get this through your head. BLACKS WILL NEVER GET REPARATIONS FROM AMERICA. Get that pipe dream out of your head. Stop offering that as some kind of solution because it's not. You really have to be part delusional to think that there's any chance that whites are going to give reparations.

Seriously, this whole "we either gon get reparations or we gon die" mentality disgusts me. I'll never trust any black person wirh this mindstate. The only logical conclusion to this mindset is being a c00n.
 

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The irony about this is that,

If there was a stronger black community of men, the women would be treated much better than they are now.

not that they are completely abused by bm, but you wouldn't have a bunch of girls getting molested or abused by renegade men (the same type of guys that a lot of Black women chase in their youth and enable as adults coincidentally :stopitslime:)

But That would completely go against the feminist and LGBTQ agenda.

That's why I keep saying a lot of these LGBTQ and feminist activists are agents that are co-opting the black struggle for their own agenda that corresponds with the 'agenda'
:mjcry: Too much needs to happen. Obama literally got the community when we were on our last legs. He shot it from us but when we in such a shock, we couldn't feel it but we feel it now. The data says our ONLY option is either what @Poitier says which is we need help from the AU and African nations or reparations. Nothing else will do. Latinos displaced our working poor and the other minorities displaced our elite 10% Blacks. Everyone got fukked, from the Boule down to Ray Ray and QuoQuoNeisha. The Boule by both conservatives and liberals and the working poor by every damn body. We need an act of God at this point. Anyone saying otherwise is lying. Even Claude Anderson moved from his plan of action to the Freedman's Act. The plan of action was based on the 80's. Not today. Globalization and the generation of millennials from other minorities killed Blacks in the millennials as a collective. At this point, Blacks are like Natives but with no Jelly. We are at mercy. Nothing really can change this in terms of a behavioral change. You can't change those who are in poverty if you don't address poverty collectively. Sadly, a lot more Blacks will be in poverty. The Gen Zers might be the death nail.

Blacks needed Obama to come with a plan of action for Black folks. That needed to be one based on resources exclusively for Blacks, a plan to close down prisons and police forces nationwide. Freedom for all non-violent offenders, them joining a rehab and a job-core program. Large vouchers for former prisoners who get married. An education voucher for minorities youth as well as a forced gov't tuition law to lower the cost of education.

We needed Obama to be a socialist who championing Black issues. We needed that. Even if this was far fetched, this is what we needed. What we got was an ole boot with dirty straps. That has never worked for Blacks in any generation or decade under white supremacy. This is not to say Obama is the only blame but we needed him, Congress and the Senate more than ever. They did not deliver and that was the plan from the beginning.
What we needed to do was mobilize and vote LOCALLY in order to make change On a NATIONAL level.

Whereby we could subsequently pull our resources to really make some changes.

truth is a disproportionate amount of nonvoters during the last mid-term elections were Black and Hispanic.
Why Young, Minority, and Low-Income Citizens Don’t Vote - Center for American Progress

Yet these same mid term elections are where the republicans most polarizing figures were able garner power during an Obama presidency. Those cacs got right to business after he won the election.
 
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Wha that bullshyt article reminded me of



Whats pissing me off more is the amount of folks Pavlovian cosigning


Pavlov's Dog :myman:
Most people don't understand the extent predictive programming & classical conditioning has effected us via multimedia....this why we sloganize everything & create hashtags & buzzwords....watch out for the heavy usage of euphemisms "Fake news" "Alternative Facts" "Fake Outrage" etc
 

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I wouldn't say he's backpedaling but after the heat Yvette and Dr. Curry brought, his name is now shea butter and he will never have a ounce of respect from anyone Black and that blog will be homo alley which isn't enough to keep it alive. He would have been fine if it was so easily desalinated.

VSB shoulda never had black support after that contrarian bullshyt he posted bout trayvon....

peep the date... article was written BEFORE zimmerman got arrested..

makes u wonder who this nikkas intended audience really is...


What If We Were Wrong About Trayvon? | VSB
 
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