Yvette Carnell (w/ Dr. Tommy Curry) - Straight Black Men are the White Men of Black People? 9/20/17

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Around 25% of the "brehettes" on here are blocct due to regurgitation and "bytch culture" leanings.
Stfu

You’re always co-signing a mf talking shyt about me then trying to kick it .
Mf you can put me on ignore as well honestly.
 

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when I googled it every link made it seem like he and Susan B Anthony were friends :dwillhuh:

Not in the least.

If Susan B. Anthony and her ilk had her way, the abolitionist movement would've been a secondary concern to the rights of white women.

It's no wonder why these white feminists today are so quick to fight drown out the voices of black women when black women start to bring up racism and how it impacts their quality of living as women.
 

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Damon Young isn't an "intellectual" -- he's an "ineffectual."

Apparently, he's had some misgivings about his anti-Black male propaganda in TheRoot from last year.

Of course, even his regrets are way off-base.

A Look Back at the Reaction to 'Straight Black Men Are the White People of Black People' a Year Later

Damon Young

Friday 10:17am

mijh9wfrvoppk53d3ujm.png

A year ago, a line in a piece from Saki Benibo—an assertion also articulated a year before in a tweet from Mela Machinko—inspired me to write something of my own based on that statement. The result (“Straight Black Men Are The White People Of Black People”) was my most read VSB piece of 2017.

It inspired dozens of written and video responses (including one from Panama). Jemele Hill retweeted it—and then felt the wrath of 10,000 vats of ash. bell hooks even invited me to her institute at Berea College for a conversation.
ad

Anyway, I have some thoughts on the reaction to it.

1. I’ve been writing publicly for 15 years now, and I can pretty much predict how a piece I’ve written will do when published. Of course, there are some outliers, but the vast majority fall within the traffic and response ranges I expected them to. That said, the response to this piece surprised me.

I knew the title and the premise would ruffle some feathers. But it was far from original. Scholars, academics, journalists, bloggers, people on Twitter, and even songwriters have been saying similar things for decades. And it was such a matter-of-fact analogy that I didn’t think there was much space for sustained pushback. Saying that black men who are straight possess a privilege within the black community that is similar to the privilege that white men possess within the country felt—and still feels—boilerplate and mundane. Like saying bricks hit pavement when dropped from windows.But I clearly underestimated the response. Granted, there were some external factors (Jemele’s tweet, for instance) that amplified it in a way that increased its reach, but I think this underestimation was a product of my own straight black male privilege. Although, again, the premise wasn’t unique, it came from a man (me) on a platform (VSB) run by men, and people tend to take things said by men more seriously than things said by women—even if the women are much more qualified to say it. Also, I underestimated how many people (men andwomen, but mostly men) would be so angry; so unable or unwilling to acknowledge that privilege exists on a spectrum. (And, of course, when speaking to the women in my life about that response, their collective response to my surprise was “Well, duh.”)

2. I’ve been asked more times than I care to count if the level of anger and vehemence in some of those responses—particularly from the black men upset by the piece—hurt me. My answer is complicated. I wasn’t bothered much by the personal attacks on me. Irked, perhaps, but the same way I might be from a mosquito bite on my shin. I was less troubled by that than the fact that this anger exists. And that these black men—whose only response to hearing that black women very often feel unsafe and unprotected and subjugated around us is “fukk you”—are the same people black women have to interact with on a daily basis.

https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.co...action-to-straight-black-men-are-t-1829199309
 

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Damon Young isn't an "intellectual" -- he's an "ineffectual."

Apparently, he's had some misgivings about his anti-Black male propaganda in TheRoot from last year.

Of course, even his regrets are way off-base.

A Look Back at the Reaction to 'Straight Black Men Are the White People of Black People' a Year Later

Damon Young

Friday 10:17am

mijh9wfrvoppk53d3ujm.png

A year ago, a line in a piece from Saki Benibo—an assertion also articulated a year before in a tweet from Mela Machinko—inspired me to write something of my own based on that statement. The result (“Straight Black Men Are The White People Of Black People”) was my most read VSB piece of 2017.

It inspired dozens of written and video responses (including one from Panama). Jemele Hill retweeted it—and then felt the wrath of 10,000 vats of ash. bell hooks even invited me to her institute at Berea College for a conversation.
ad

Anyway, I have some thoughts on the reaction to it.

1. I’ve been writing publicly for 15 years now, and I can pretty much predict how a piece I’ve written will do when published. Of course, there are some outliers, but the vast majority fall within the traffic and response ranges I expected them to. That said, the response to this piece surprised me.

I knew the title and the premise would ruffle some feathers. But it was far from original. Scholars, academics, journalists, bloggers, people on Twitter, and even songwriters have been saying similar things for decades. And it was such a matter-of-fact analogy that I didn’t think there was much space for sustained pushback. Saying that black men who are straight possess a privilege within the black community that is similar to the privilege that white men possess within the country felt—and still feels—boilerplate and mundane. Like saying bricks hit pavement when dropped from windows.But I clearly underestimated the response. Granted, there were some external factors (Jemele’s tweet, for instance) that amplified it in a way that increased its reach, but I think this underestimation was a product of my own straight black male privilege. Although, again, the premise wasn’t unique, it came from a man (me) on a platform (VSB) run by men, and people tend to take things said by men more seriously than things said by women—even if the women are much more qualified to say it. Also, I underestimated how many people (men andwomen, but mostly men) would be so angry; so unable or unwilling to acknowledge that privilege exists on a spectrum. (And, of course, when speaking to the women in my life about that response, their collective response to my surprise was “Well, duh.”)

2. I’ve been asked more times than I care to count if the level of anger and vehemence in some of those responses—particularly from the black men upset by the piece—hurt me. My answer is complicated. I wasn’t bothered much by the personal attacks on me. Irked, perhaps, but the same way I might be from a mosquito bite on my shin. I was less troubled by that than the fact that this anger exists. And that these black men—whose only response to hearing that black women very often feel unsafe and unprotected and subjugated around us is “fukk you”—are the same people black women have to interact with on a daily basis.

https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.co...action-to-straight-black-men-are-t-1829199309
fukk that moist nikka.:zestyjordan:

I'm not clicking that link. :childplease:

He's trying to recycle his hottest article by shytting on BM again. He's never going to cross over just like c00ns are never really respected by cacs, sistah's will always view him with suspicion no matter how many times he throws us under the bus.

BW know not to trust "allies" advocating against their own self interest:usure: Look at Drake, he's been simpin' DS BW for a decade only to be pedo papi for little cac girls.

If being a black man is so easy why do black women hope they don't have little black boys:ohhh:
 

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Damon Young isn't an "intellectual" -- he's an "ineffectual."

Apparently, he's had some misgivings about his anti-Black male propaganda in TheRoot from last year.

Of course, even his regrets are way off-base.

A Look Back at the Reaction to 'Straight Black Men Are the White People of Black People' a Year Later

Damon Young

Friday 10:17am

mijh9wfrvoppk53d3ujm.png

A year ago, a line in a piece from Saki Benibo—an assertion also articulated a year before in a tweet from Mela Machinko—inspired me to write something of my own based on that statement. The result (“Straight Black Men Are The White People Of Black People”) was my most read VSB piece of 2017.

It inspired dozens of written and video responses (including one from Panama). Jemele Hill retweeted it—and then felt the wrath of 10,000 vats of ash. bell hooks even invited me to her institute at Berea College for a conversation.
ad

Anyway, I have some thoughts on the reaction to it.

1. I’ve been writing publicly for 15 years now, and I can pretty much predict how a piece I’ve written will do when published. Of course, there are some outliers, but the vast majority fall within the traffic and response ranges I expected them to. That said, the response to this piece surprised me.

I knew the title and the premise would ruffle some feathers. But it was far from original. Scholars, academics, journalists, bloggers, people on Twitter, and even songwriters have been saying similar things for decades. And it was such a matter-of-fact analogy that I didn’t think there was much space for sustained pushback. Saying that black men who are straight possess a privilege within the black community that is similar to the privilege that white men possess within the country felt—and still feels—boilerplate and mundane. Like saying bricks hit pavement when dropped from windows.But I clearly underestimated the response. Granted, there were some external factors (Jemele’s tweet, for instance) that amplified it in a way that increased its reach, but I think this underestimation was a product of my own straight black male privilege. Although, again, the premise wasn’t unique, it came from a man (me) on a platform (VSB) run by men, and people tend to take things said by men more seriously than things said by women—even if the women are much more qualified to say it. Also, I underestimated how many people (men andwomen, but mostly men) would be so angry; so unable or unwilling to acknowledge that privilege exists on a spectrum. (And, of course, when speaking to the women in my life about that response, their collective response to my surprise was “Well, duh.”)

2. I’ve been asked more times than I care to count if the level of anger and vehemence in some of those responses—particularly from the black men upset by the piece—hurt me. My answer is complicated. I wasn’t bothered much by the personal attacks on me. Irked, perhaps, but the same way I might be from a mosquito bite on my shin. I was less troubled by that than the fact that this anger exists. And that these black men—whose only response to hearing that black women very often feel unsafe and unprotected and subjugated around us is “fukk you”—are the same people black women have to interact with on a daily basis.

https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.co...action-to-straight-black-men-are-t-1829199309

This is what they always do. They mischaracterize the arguments against the piece. Set up a strawman so that they can easily knock it down.
"If straight black men could get past the title...".
No, fool. We are saying that we don't agree with the premise because it isn't supported by facts and empirical data(not to mention our own life experiences). If your argument's premise is false then why the fukk would we accept your conclusion as valid? This is the basic test for ANY argument you could ever make regarding anything!
Plenty of people, men and women, spent hours debunking this nonsense but THOSE arguments are never mentioned. It is dishonest and honestly scary that they can control the narrative in this way. We need to start aggressively fact checking black media YESTERDAY.
 

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This is what they always do. They mischaracterize the arguments against the piece. Set up a strawman so that they can easily knock it down.
"If straight black men could get past the title...".
No, fool. We are saying that we don't agree with the premise because it isn't supported by facts and empirical data(not to mention our own life experiences). If your argument's premise is false then why the fukk would we accept your conclusion as valid? This is the basic test for ANY argument you could ever make regarding anything!
Plenty of people, men and women, spent hours debunking this nonsense but THOSE arguments are never mentioned. It is dishonest and honestly scary that they can control the narrative in this way. We need to start aggressively fact checking black media YESTERDAY.
what the fukk is news without data taken as gospel?
 
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