Yvette Carnell (w/ Dr. Tommy Curry) - Straight Black Men are the White Men of Black People? 9/20/17

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It shows you don't know Jemele. Whatever you think Bomani is as a male feminist, Jemele is twice as bad. She just toned it down since getting the prime spot on ESPN.

Truth and I even remember when she wrote for the orlando news paper before she went to the world wide slave catcher aka ESPN.
 

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Real shyt. This Damon young clown wouldn't dare stand up say this in a room full of straight black men.
Eh, I'm all for the form for written debate instead of sheer brawn over brains...but the argument itself is poor. It didn't even state anything.

It offered nothing to agree with.
 
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It shows you don't know Jemele.


I mean... I've never met her so there is no way I could "know" her... and there has been some questionable comments from her in the past, but when a check is involved, shyt happens...... :manny: I get it.... but at the end of the day, there are levels to this shyt... and as a so called proud black women(so she claims) that wants to see her community thrive, there is no way you can agree with that article......
 

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Damon Young backpedaling



Of course he is. He's attempting a skillful retreat. Its the same shyt every time.

1. Write something idiotic :smugfavre:
2. Have people who know the data call bullshyt :ufdup:

3. Try to frame the idiotic statement into something it wasn't :skip:

4. Gets roasted with more data that proves the second statement was not the original intention :usure:

5. Fallback :whoa:
 

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Damon Young backpedaling


This is what happens when you don't flesh out your arguments but instead you let your iPhone notes day-dream diary out on the internet in the form of journalism.

It was so poorly written I couldn't even agree with anything in it if I tried. It was devoid of any actual arguments outside of some soppy emo bullshyt.
 

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This is what happens when you don't flesh out your arguments but instead you let your iPhone notes day-dream diary out on the internet in the form of journalism.

It was so poorly written I couldn't even agree with anything in it if I tried. It was devoid of any actual arguments outside of some soppy emo bullshyt.

Breh the article was never meant to be substance. shyt was equivalent to a mothafukka looking at the final score of a cavs game seeing lebron scored 40 and lost and be like see he sucks the cavs lost.

This dude is a troll and is paid well to push filth out to the internet. He is doing exactly what the system wants him to do.
 

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I don't consider basic human rights a privilege. I don't consider anything earned on merit a privilege.

In a fair society, they are not.

To call them privileges is to fall into the trap of sectarianism that White supremacy has set.

To me, a privilege is White folks being able to go to the best schools or get a cushy job without the merit.
So you only consider whites to be privileged in this society? That's what you're rolling with now just to be obtuse? Let's bet that I can do a simple search and find you talking about other kinds of privileges(colorism) in the community. Light skinned black can be privileged over darker skinned black skin due to white supremacy, but black women can't be privileged over black men?
I've been pointing out the advantages Black women have over us for years on this very forum.

But I don't think that is the issue.

Its annoying as fukk but if Black women realized the schism White supremacy is engineering, we'd still have to network with the greater diaspora and build to get out of this rut.
That's clearly the issue as I explained in one of my earlier posts. The only reason that we get articles like this from black feminists(male or female) promoted on mainstream platforms which goes a long way to perpetuate black dysfunction, is because whites empower/privilege black women, black gays, and those who perpetuate white liberalism over blacks who don't. Especially straight black men. This advantage/privilege is what is perpetuating the problem. We have to call the problem out for what it is to begin to side-step/overcome it.
 

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So you only consider whites to be privileged in this society?

yes.

I can do a simple search and find you talking about other kinds of privileges(colorism) in the community.

Colorism isn't a privilege... its self hate in its most superficial form and I've said its overblown and trivial.

That's clearly the issue as I explained in one of my earlier posts. The only reason that we get articles like this from black feminists(male or female) promoted on mainstream platforms which goes a long way to perpetuate black dysfunction

Gotta disagree.

Our lack of capital and resources + 100s of years of conditioning are the root issue to all of our problems.
 

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Eh, I'm all for the form for written debate instead of sheer brawn over brains...but the argument itself is poor. It didn't even state anything.

It offered nothing to agree with.
Nah, I wasn't saying that he wouldn't say this in front of straight black men due to physical threat. He wouldn't say this due to knowing that he would be challenged intellectually and there wouldn't be anywhere to hide. The reason that black liberals don't really engage those within the black community who disagree is because they can't and they don't have to. This Damon young clown can get a bullshyt poorly written garbage ass article pushed on mainstream platforms simply because he's saying things that whites want to hear. He probably doesn't even live around or associate with straight black men.
 

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How are we going to solve a problem if we're too scared to even point it out?

Very few see a problem with the hyper-matriarchy that black folks have lived in for the past 40 years plus.

In fact, the Damon Young types are fighting for our black environments to become even more female-centered, if possible.
 

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So you only consider whites to be privileged in this society? That's what you're rolling with now just to be obtuse? Let's bet that I can do a simple search and find you talking about other kinds of privileges(colorism) in the community. Light skinned black can be privileged over darker skinned black skin due to white supremacy, but black women can't be privileged over black men?

That's clearly the issue as I explained in one of my earlier posts. The only reason that we get articles like this from black feminists(male or female) promoted on mainstream platforms which goes a long way to perpetuate black dysfunction, is because whites empower/privilege black women, black gays, and those who perpetuate white liberalism over blacks who don't. Especially straight black men. This advantage/privilege is what is perpetuating the problem. We have to call the problem out for what it is to begin to side-step/overcome it.
What he's saying is

1. "Privilege" is quantifiable so if you make the claim you better have some data to back it up

2. Even if there is a privilege in our community it's so fukking small that bringing up is pretty pointless especially when blacks don't control the privilege

You even just said it. If lightskinned blacks are more privileged because of white Supremacy. Who should the anger be directed to?

The idiots who agreed with the article will say the light skinned blacks :skip:
 
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