The voting booth matters, but many of you forsake that.
I have no problems with Roland and I like having allies and insiders in major parties.
Every aspect and agent of change doesn't have to "blow the system up"
Grow up.
Yvette Carnell (w/ Dr. Tommy Curry) - Straight Black Men are the White Men of Black People? 9/20/17
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I have no problems with Roland and I like having allies and insiders in major parties.
Every aspect and agent of change doesn't have to "blow the system up"
Grow up.
He hates Umar and Roland is a soft shoe c00nBecause after that shyt with Dr. Umar and dude was still talking all types of shyt on Twitter, Idk about that anymore breh.
You should be presenting this at ASALH, I would love to see some of the responses you would get. People hate the truth.Okay forgive my laziness b/c I'm not watching nearly two hours of this. Nor am I reading the article.
What's the major premise?
I've seen this idea before.
So they are saying "straight, black men are the white men of the black community".
This is problematic for a couple of reasons. Firstly, the association of heterosexuality with negative connotations of white masculinity. The homosexual community is NOT supportive of us and only used the model of our struggle to jumpstart their own agenda. In fact some homosexuals are just as racist as the men they accusing of this. So anytime u try to lump that in with black issues, it rings alarm bells off in my head. AGENDA!
Second issue is when people make criticism of individuals in our race, they need to be far more discriminant. There are ABSOLUTELY some black men in our race who loath black women, feel like dating one is a step down, and who wish to divorce themselves from anything traditionally associated with blkness. That's the truth. Hell I meet some everyday in academia. And their goal IS to become not just the white men of our community, but white altogether. These are the brothas who hang out with whites and get mad when whites try to hook them up with blk women like that's an insult. Or the brothas who associate black femininity with inferiority. Who feel like winning is living in a white neighborhood with an exotical princess on his arm. Who is denying these types exist. Hope we not lying today.
But the issue is that ur projecting these minority c00ns onto an ENTIRE demographic that has already been disenfranchised. AND there are black women who act like the white women of our race as well but nobody is discussing blk female adoption of toxic white female traits to the detriment of our community. And I'm not talking about feminism either. I'm talking bout white female pop culture where u fukk everything, drink ur problems away, buy designer bags like u got it like that with the expectation that there will still be a man to put up with u when ur out of ur prime. A lot of black women trying their DAMNDEST to be white chicks right down to the willingness to lay up under the worlds most insecure fakkit: da white man.
To me this is the same ole same ole. Nobody is willing to have ANY critical conversations about blk men or blk women b/c the truth hurts too much.
Let me know when a black man is willing to come forth about the toxicity of black male subculture that seeks to justify any wrong doing against a black woman out of a failed attempt at painting her as the enemy b/c he feels powerless to strike the REAL enemy. I'm talking to the men who would believe and try to justify the actions of dudes like R. Kelly even tho he's been preying on the young women in our community for years. Instead of feeling the pain of a young blk woman living in poverty impressed by some money, they'd rather these "bytches" just STFU so as to not sully the king of R&B's name. I'm talking about the blk men who are so desperate for any type of masculinity that they glorify pimp culture and prey on poor young exploited blk women in the hood LIKE their white brethren exploiting poor impoverished people in 3rd world countries. The blk men who wanna disassociate themselves from blk culture and blame it all on black women even tho they grew up and contributed to it as well.
Let me know when I can have a conversation with a real black woman about vulnerability and the hurt and resentment and distrust she carries towards all blk men, b/c she grew up in an environment of vultures who used her as soon as her chest began to bud. Talk to me about how the strong, independence isn't something to brag about but is a trap that robs us of our femininity. Or how blk women pretending to be doing just fine without their men, while hiding depression through hypertension, diabetes, obesity and cancer. Talk to me about how a lot of these dykes pump faking and really just hurt but don't wanna admit to needing or wanting a man b/c they don't feel attractive to their own race of men. Talk to me about toxic femininity and being so love starved that u hopin a child will bind you to an unwilling partner that u know secretly hates u and only wants to use u for ur body. Tell me about how u take it out on the children you raise while trying to act like courting a single mother lifestyle is to be celebrated.
When these intellectuals can talk to me about how the failure of blk marriage is correlated to our failed economic state, and how some toxic black men aren't even attracted to black women but will sit there and pretend that if they just changed, they would love them. Also talk to me about how some blk women have completely forsaken their femininity but are trying to force themselves on ALL MEN under the lens of social justice. When we start admitting that some blk women can and have been perfect but blk men STILL fukked over them and bragged about treating them like shyt.
When we can admit to black women resenting blk men for not putting her on a whoredom pedastal where she can eat shyt and still live a Betty Crocker lifestyle like a white woman.
When we get to these levels of real w/o anger or emotion or resentment for saying this type of shyt, THEN @ me @R$G META. Otherwise I'm just gonna be labeled a blk male basher by blk men who don't wanna take ANY accountability and a mammie blk male panderer by blk females who don't wanna take accountability either.
I'm tired of talking around this shyt and pointing fingers. Black men and black women gotta come clean about everything. Otherwise, STFU and stop using our community issues as a banner for why ur resentful brokeass, bitter wannabe a white man dikk is dry or why nobody is interested in loving a "real woman"/unhealthy helmet hat wearing "queen".
And by the way, if one butthurt a$$hole comes sideways at me even tho I've CLEARLY CALLED OUT BOTH BLACK MEN AND WOMEN, then save ur tears for somebody who cares. Nobody is fukking perfect so get off ur high horse. Sorry that the world has blamed black men and women for everything but pretending like some of us aren't trifling isn't getting us anywhere.
Dismantled.
Okay forgive my laziness b/c I'm not watching nearly two hours of this. Nor am I reading the article.
What's the major premise?
I've seen this idea before.
So they are saying "straight, black men are the white men of the black community".
This is problematic for a couple of reasons. Firstly, the association of heterosexuality with negative connotations of white masculinity. The homosexual community is NOT supportive of us and only used the model of our struggle to jumpstart their own agenda. In fact some homosexuals are just as racist as the men they accusing of this. So anytime u try to lump that in with black issues, it rings alarm bells off in my head. AGENDA!
Second issue is when people make criticism of individuals in our race, they need to be far more discriminant. There are ABSOLUTELY some black men in our race who loath black women, feel like dating one is a step down, and who wish to divorce themselves from anything traditionally associated with blkness. That's the truth. Hell I meet some everyday in academia. And their goal IS to become not just the white men of our community, but white altogether. These are the brothas who hang out with whites and get mad when whites try to hook them up with blk women like that's an insult. Or the brothas who associate black femininity with inferiority. Who feel like winning is living in a white neighborhood with an exotical princess on his arm. Who is denying these types exist. Hope we not lying today.
But the issue is that ur projecting these minority c00ns onto an ENTIRE demographic that has already been disenfranchised. AND there are black women who act like the white women of our race as well but nobody is discussing blk female adoption of toxic white female traits to the detriment of our community. And I'm not talking about feminism either. I'm talking bout white female pop culture where u fukk everything, drink ur problems away, buy designer bags like u got it like that with the expectation that there will still be a man to put up with u when ur out of ur prime. A lot of black women trying their DAMNDEST to be white chicks right down to the willingness to lay up under the worlds most insecure fakkit: da white man.
To me this is the same ole same ole. Nobody is willing to have ANY critical conversations about blk men or blk women b/c the truth hurts too much.
Let me know when a black man is willing to come forth about the toxicity of black male subculture that seeks to justify any wrong doing against a black woman out of a failed attempt at painting her as the enemy b/c he feels powerless to strike the REAL enemy. I'm talking to the men who would believe and try to justify the actions of dudes like R. Kelly even tho he's been preying on the young women in our community for years. Instead of feeling the pain of a young blk woman living in poverty impressed by some money, they'd rather these "bytches" just STFU so as to not sully the king of R&B's name. I'm talking about the blk men who are so desperate for any type of masculinity that they glorify pimp culture and prey on poor young exploited blk women in the hood LIKE their white brethren exploiting poor impoverished people in 3rd world countries. The blk men who wanna disassociate themselves from blk culture and blame it all on black women even tho they grew up and contributed to it as well.
Let me know when I can have a conversation with a real black woman about vulnerability and the hurt and resentment and distrust she carries towards all blk men, b/c she grew up in an environment of vultures who used her as soon as her chest began to bud. Talk to me about how the strong, independence isn't something to brag about but is a trap that robs us of our femininity. Or how blk women pretending to be doing just fine without their men, while hiding depression through hypertension, diabetes, obesity and cancer. Talk to me about how a lot of these dykes pump faking and really just hurt but don't wanna admit to needing or wanting a man b/c they don't feel attractive to their own race of men. Talk to me about toxic femininity and being so love starved that u hopin a child will bind you to an unwilling partner that u know secretly hates u and only wants to use u for ur body. Tell me about how u take it out on the children you raise while trying to act like courting a single mother lifestyle is to be celebrated.
When these intellectuals can talk to me about how the failure of blk marriage is correlated to our failed economic state, and how some toxic black men aren't even attracted to black women but will sit there and pretend that if they just changed, they would love them. Also talk to me about how some blk women have completely forsaken their femininity but are trying to force themselves on ALL MEN under the lens of social justice. When we start admitting that some blk women can and have been perfect but blk men STILL fukked over them and bragged about treating them like shyt.
When we can admit to black women resenting blk men for not putting her on a whoredom pedastal where she can eat shyt and still live a Betty Crocker lifestyle like a white woman.
When we get to these levels of real w/o anger or emotion or resentment for saying this type of shyt, THEN @ me @R$G META. Otherwise I'm just gonna be labeled a blk male basher by blk men who don't wanna take ANY accountability and a mammie blk male panderer by blk females who don't wanna take accountability either.
I'm tired of talking around this shyt and pointing fingers. Black men and black women gotta come clean about everything. Otherwise, STFU and stop using our community issues as a banner for why ur resentful brokeass, bitter wannabe a white man dikk is dry or why nobody is interested in loving a "real woman"/unhealthy helmet hat wearing "queen".
And by the way, if one butthurt a$$hole comes sideways at me even tho I've CLEARLY CALLED OUT BOTH BLACK MEN AND WOMEN, then save ur tears for somebody who cares. Nobody is fukking perfect so get off ur high horse. Sorry that the world has blamed black men and women for everything but pretending like some of us aren't trifling isn't getting us anywhere.
The simple fact you typed all this without watching the video is hilarious and proof of why dudes need to ignore the opinion of many.
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I didn't say voting doesn't matter. fukk outta here with your red herring and explain how Roland is "radical"
I've followed Roland for years. Met him personally a few times. He's not a c00n. I'll leave it there.
It's that fake ass "both sides" shyt that people sometimes use to give cover. In this between black female and male feminists against so-called "hoteps" aka straight black men who call out white supremacy but don't go for white liberalism, only 1 side has been co-opted and empowered by whites. You're not going to see an article on sites like the root, huffington post, ebony, etc from a straight black man attacking blacks who subscribe to white liberalism. Straight black men who push pro black family values aren't sponsored and given platforms by whites like black feminists(male and female) are. This directly effects the power dynamic within the community. The reason that these blck liberals don't even engage those of us in the community who disagree is because of their white sponsors. These people are being empowered to sabotage the community. So you can't just say it's "both sides".
I also think this piece unconsciously speaks to the fetishization of whiteness in some black minds, and the need to attach white privilege to some identity in the black community to at least make it attainable. In their eyes, by associating straight black men to white people, they make it attainable to themselves because they are fighting for equity with us.
It is perpetuating the notion of putting whiteness on a pedestal, and as c00nish as when @4d 6f 6e 65 79 tried to call out Issa Rae for upsetting white folks. Aspiring to whiteness and policing our behavior around white folks are tenets of white supremacy.
It is perpetuating the notion of putting whiteness on a pedestal, and as c00nish as when @4d 6f 6e 65 79 tried to call out Issa Rae for upsetting white folks. Aspiring to whiteness and policing our behavior around white folks are tenets of white supremacy.
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Okay forgive my laziness b/c I'm not watching nearly two hours of this. Nor am I reading the article.
What's the major premise?
I've seen this idea before.
So they are saying "straight, black men are the white men of the black community".
This is problematic for a couple of reasons. Firstly, the association of heterosexuality with negative connotations of white masculinity. The homosexual community is NOT supportive of us and only used the model of our struggle to jumpstart their own agenda. In fact some homosexuals are just as racist as the men they accusing of this. So anytime u try to lump that in with black issues, it rings alarm bells off in my head. AGENDA!
Second issue is when people make criticism of individuals in our race, they need to be far more discriminant. There are ABSOLUTELY some black men in our race who loath black women, feel like dating one is a step down, and who wish to divorce themselves from anything traditionally associated with blkness. That's the truth. Hell I meet some everyday in academia. And their goal IS to become not just the white men of our community, but white altogether. These are the brothas who hang out with whites and get mad when whites try to hook them up with blk women like that's an insult. Or the brothas who associate black femininity with inferiority. Who feel like winning is living in a white neighborhood with an exotical princess on his arm. Who is denying these types exist. Hope we not lying today.
But the issue is that ur projecting these minority c00ns onto an ENTIRE demographic that has already been disenfranchised. AND there are black women who act like the white women of our race as well but nobody is discussing blk female adoption of toxic white female traits to the detriment of our community. And I'm not talking about feminism either. I'm talking bout white female pop culture where u fukk everything, drink ur problems away, buy designer bags like u got it like that with the expectation that there will still be a man to put up with u when ur out of ur prime. A lot of black women trying their DAMNDEST to be white chicks right down to the willingness to lay up under the worlds most insecure fakkit: da white man.
To me this is the same ole same ole. Nobody is willing to have ANY critical conversations about blk men or blk women b/c the truth hurts too much.
Let me know when a black man is willing to come forth about the toxicity of black male subculture that seeks to justify any wrong doing against a black woman out of a failed attempt at painting her as the enemy b/c he feels powerless to strike the REAL enemy. I'm talking to the men who would believe and try to justify the actions of dudes like R. Kelly even tho he's been preying on the young women in our community for years. Instead of feeling the pain of a young blk woman living in poverty impressed by some money, they'd rather these "bytches" just STFU so as to not sully the king of R&B's name. I'm talking about the blk men who are so desperate for any type of masculinity that they glorify pimp culture and prey on poor young exploited blk women in the hood LIKE their white brethren exploiting poor impoverished people in 3rd world countries. The blk men who wanna disassociate themselves from blk culture and blame it all on black women even tho they grew up and contributed to it as well.
Let me know when I can have a conversation with a real black woman about vulnerability and the hurt and resentment and distrust she carries towards all blk men, b/c she grew up in an environment of vultures who used her as soon as her chest began to bud. Talk to me about how the strong, independence isn't something to brag about but is a trap that robs us of our femininity. Or how blk women pretending to be doing just fine without their men, while hiding depression through hypertension, diabetes, obesity and cancer. Talk to me about how a lot of these dykes pump faking and really just hurt but don't wanna admit to needing or wanting a man b/c they don't feel attractive to their own race of men. Talk to me about toxic femininity and being so love starved that u hopin a child will bind you to an unwilling partner that u know secretly hates u and only wants to use u for ur body. Tell me about how u take it out on the children you raise while trying to act like courting a single mother lifestyle is to be celebrated.
When these intellectuals can talk to me about how the failure of blk marriage is correlated to our failed economic state, and how some toxic black men aren't even attracted to black women but will sit there and pretend that if they just changed, they would love them. Also talk to me about how some blk women have completely forsaken their femininity but are trying to force themselves on ALL MEN under the lens of social justice. When we start admitting that some blk women can and have been perfect but blk men STILL fukked over them and bragged about treating them like shyt.
When we can admit to black women resenting blk men for not putting her on a whoredom pedastal where she can eat shyt and still live a Betty Crocker lifestyle like a white woman.
When we get to these levels of real w/o anger or emotion or resentment for saying this type of shyt, THEN @ me @R$G META. Otherwise I'm just gonna be labeled a blk male basher by blk men who don't wanna take ANY accountability and a mammie blk male panderer by blk females who don't wanna take accountability either.
I'm tired of talking around this shyt and pointing fingers. Black men and black women gotta come clean about everything. Otherwise, STFU and stop using our community issues as a banner for why ur resentful brokeass, bitter wannabe a white man dikk is dry or why nobody is interested in loving a "real woman"/unhealthy helmet hat wearing "queen".
And by the way, if one butthurt a$$hole comes sideways at me even tho I've CLEARLY CALLED OUT BOTH BLACK MEN AND WOMEN, then save ur tears for somebody who cares. Nobody is fukking perfect so get off ur high horse. Sorry that the world has blamed black men and women for everything but pretending like some of us aren't trifling isn't getting us anywhere.
This is great booksrain this is the truth
Not so much both sides, its just acknowledging that we all have a form of privilege within some social identity we embody. She didn't agree with the notion of the article at all, no need to read something that you hear arguments in class about every other day.
I don't care about Issa Rae upsetting white people.
I care about Issa Rae bringing drama to the community's door.