Yvette Carnell & Jesse Lee Peterson are astroturfed by the same white supremacist sugar daddy

[Stone Cold]

But then he wouldn’t be able to get his jollies off trying to antagonize negroes..

 

[Eddie_1100]

This is the internet @#Championships , you don’t know who anyone is.

 

[T'krm]

This thread exposed the gatekeeper mentality a lot of people have when it comes to ADOS. The truth is there are a lot of questionable people in the realm of politics. I’m not going to condemn anybody who decides to play that game because the political system itself was built upon white supremacy. That’s why I decided against going in on OP when he was actively stating that Black Lives Matter was a decentralized group that wasn’t funded or controlled by George Soros.







:Mjhigh2: You the OP?

Gate-keeper/flagrant entitlement/White appointed,overseer syndrome.

These hurt, NonAdos vagabonds continually expose how they really view Ados as being: unintelligent, easily manipulated, and in need of leading. Like concepts like: self-determination, distinction...hell basic human surviival traits are somehow foreign, and must be sinisterly introduced by an outside influence.
As if #ADOS isn't merely an ethnic description, and qualifier that outlines not only our ethnicity, but history and claim to this country(we built), but that others inclu them came to profit from.

Nope, it can't be authentic...Ados isn't smart enough to look at the #Data, or see the complete rouse of Panafrikanism, and how neighboring groups really feel about us, and draw sufficient conclusions from them.
It must be White supremacists!!

 

[Eddie_1100]

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Yeah so Trumps presidential transition team put out a press release saying they had signed statements of support for Jeff Sessions as AG. Instead, all they had was a statement from head c00nstress in charge Leah Durant calling herself a "civil right attorney."

‘Civil Rights Attorney’ Backing Jeff Sessions Leads A Tiny Anti-Immigrant Front Group | Right Wing Watch

Over the weekend, Donald Trump’s presidential transition committee sent out a press releasecontaining statements of support from “civil rights and law enforcement groups” for Trump’s intended nomination of Sen. Jeff Sessions to be attorney general. As a few news organizations pointed out, the press release did not actually include any civil rights advocates—not a huge surprise since Sessions isn’t exactly known as a friend to the civil rights community.

Instead, it contained the endorsement of Leah Durant, who was identified as a “civil rights attorney and founder of the Black American Leadership Alliance.” Durant is a longtime anti-immigration activist with close ties to the network of anti-immigrant groups founded by John Tanton, a proponent of white nationalism and eugenics.

Durant was an attorney for the Immigration Reform Law Institute (IRLI), the legal arm of the chief Tanton group Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), before leaving to head up Progressives for Immigration Reform (PFIR), a Tanton-tied group that attempts to get liberal environmentalists on the side of anti-immigration advocates. (Kris Kobach, who is advising the Trump transition on immigration issues and is reportedly on the shortlist to be secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, has long worked with IRLI as well.)

Then, in 2013, Durant appeared again as the head of a new group called the Black American Leadership Alliance (BALA), which seemed to be entirely run out of PFIR and appears to have been founded solely to fight the Gang of Eight’s immigration reform bill. Shortly after establishing itself, BALA led an anti-immigration rally in Washington, D.C., featuring a handful of enthusiastically anti-immigration members of Congress including Sessions.

Also featured at the rally was founding BALA member Jesse Lee Peterson, a right-wing activist whose bread and butter is going on conservative talk shows claiming that there is no such thing as racism and that white people must stand up to stop people of color from “waging war against whites, which represent the goodness of America.” Peterson claims that contemporary civil rights leaders are “worse than the Ku Klux Klan and skinheads combined” and says that African Americans today are worse off than they were before the civil rights movement.

Since then, BALA has appeared only very occasionally in the media, until this weekend when the group was lifted up again in an attempt to provide cover for Sessions’ long history of opposing civil rights.

Yvette Carnell was still on the PFIR board in 2016 and Durant was her executive director. Peeling it back layer by layer.

 

[Gravity]

Think tank. ... A think tank, think factory or policy institute is a research institute/center and organization which performs research and advocacy concerning topics such as social policy, political strategy, economics, military, technology, and culture.
Think tank - Wikipedia

My point still stands

Dude, you're clearly trolling. Don't you understand that you're only hurting the cause that you supposedly care about? By trolling you're only undermining the shyt you're supposedly repping.

There's nothing to gain in the push for reparations from Yvette being on the board of that group. That group is about coming up with insidious ways to keep white people in power. They see the influx of non whites in the form of immigration as a threat to white power. The main purpose of the group is to curb the number of non white people entering the country. The group and the powerful people associated with it have zero chance of ever being supportive of reparations to blacks. Zero. Yvette don't knows that. The group's only uses for blacks like Yvette is to provide cover and to serve as Trojan horses. They use blacks like Leah Durant as fronts and spokespeople to push their talking points to the public which helps mask their true agendas and shield from any racism charges. They use blacks like Yvette for intel and also to Trojan horse their talking points into our think tanks and community discussions.

She claims to not be paid by the group but that's gotdamn lie. She's receiving some type of compensation because it makes no sense for her not to. Again, that group or the people associated with it have zero chance of ever supporting reparations for blacks. Y'all shyt on blacks who vote for the dems when they're the only party that has members even willing to consider the issue, but make excuses for Yvette being aligned with a group of racist whites who not only won't consider the issue, but would do any and everything in their power to sabotage any efforts to get reparations.

 

[Stone Cold]

Dude, you're clearly trolling. Don't you understand that you're only hurting the cause that you supposedly care about? By trolling you're only undermining the shyt you're supposedly repping.

There's nothing to gain in the push for reparations from Yvette being on the board of that group. That group is about coming up with insidious ways to keep white people in power. They see the influx of non whites in the form of immigration as a threat to white power. The main purpose of the group is to curb the number of non white people entering the country. The group and the powerful people associated with it have zero chance of ever being supportive of reparations to blacks. Zero. Yvette don't knows that. The group's only uses for blacks like Yvette is to provide cover and to serve as Trojan horses. They use blacks like Leah Durant as fronts and spokespeople to push their talking points to the public which helps mask their true agendas and shield from any racism charges. They use blacks like Yvette for intel and also to Trojan horse their talking points into our think tanks and community discussions.

She claims to not be paid by the group but that's gotdamn lie. She's receiving some type of compensation because it makes no sense for her not to. Again, that group or the people associated with it have zero chance of ever supporting reparations for blacks. Y'all shyt on blacks who vote for the dems when they're the only party that has members even willing to consider the issue, but make excuses for Yvette being aligned with a group of racist whites who not only won't consider the issue, but would do any and everything in their power to sabotage any efforts to get reparations.

If you can’t prove otherwise stfu

She made that choice because she thought it was the right decision politically

I don’t condone or condemn

Making up conspiracies and strawmen because you don’t agree with someone’s philosophy is some hater ass shyt . The only reason mfers feel comfortable doing it is because media(matters ) put a battery in mfers back

 

[GMoney]

Well by that logic Jesse Lee Peterson's group is pro black cause it's title is literally "Choose Black America"

PFIR is not progressive

They're not progressive, they're just adding progressive talking points to White Supremacist goals. They post stuff that echoes progressives in the hopes of capturing some progressive supporters, not because they have any progressive aims.

I’m in another country, was typing on a mobile, so I wasn’t able to quote clearly. I’m not saying PFIR is progressive; their nonsense environmental claims negate that in my book. However, there has been a history of progressives (Cesar Chavez, Bernie Sanders…) speaking against illegal immigration. Whether they were wrong or misguided because they didn’t have the "proper data” is another conversation. Yvette’s belief (and this is where the good faith part comes in) is that they are/were right and/or there needs to be a push to stop illegal immigration because it’s a threat to a largely unskilled black labor force.

Whether she sincerely believes that or not, is anyone’s guess. I think she does. I don’t think that she believes her position is a right-wing one, also the stated goals of PFIR (exists to protect American workers from unemployment and wage suppression caused by unfair labor and trade practices, including importation of large numbers of foreign workers who are subject to exploitation by foreign and domestic corporations...) is actually something she aligns with even though she admitted on her show they had a “right-wing element". The point being (and we don’t know this because we are not in the room) is it as explicit as you say in that Yvette is saying “Mr. Neo-Nazi, we should work in an alliance to ensure that our mutual interests continue to prosper” or is there a pretense of something progressive going on.

I gather from Yvette, it was a little bit of both, which made no sense for her to be there if they weren't speaking plainly either way. It is/was nothing but a front meant to waste time.

I don't think Yvette is an evil person in any sense. I just think she's flaky as hell in her political philosophy and seriously misguided in her tactics, and it's led her to become far more useful to the people who want to manipulate her community than she is to her own community.

I’ve followed her for a decade because I think she’s interesting, whether she was on blacktalkradio talking black empowerment with Pascal Robert, hooking up with Boyce, going from supporting Obama than rejecting Obama, flirting with Ron Paul, supporting Bernie Sanders with Irami, to now her data-driven work with Tone. She says that you have to be “politically nimble” (that was the point of her show with the Trump hat), so that how she explains her changing philosophy.

But here's the thing that really kills me. Yvette thinks you can work with these people. She thinks that you can work with White Supremacists, in their orgs with their aims, and hope you'll come out on top. But she thinks you CAN'T work with Black and Brown people if they're not ADOS, her followers are in here shytting on Africans, Caribbeans, Latinos, and even Black Americans who don't happen to be ADOS...SOLELY because their identity doesn't pass the new bar. Yet Tanton and his White Supremacist buddies DO pass the bar. That's the bullshyt that kills me.

Meh, I think that’s a reach. She says that she wants/appreciates non-ados black allies. The counter here whether you agree with Yvette, Tone, Tariq and Co is that it’s the non-ados people of color who have been historically tribal, divisive and willing to bargain/cow-tow to the white supremacists in the US and worldwide for a come up. Yvette sees her/our redress(i.e. negotiation with white supremacists in America) as a constitutive part of our lineage-based justice claim in lieu of seeking ‘mythical formations’ outside of the US. It’s why the Pan-Africanists are upset. She, Tariq and Co. have a point about our supposed non-white allies being complicit, weak, or virtually nonexistent. How we get reparations if we supposedly have no friends or allies; I don't know, but I can't make the claim black Americans have a place to go or a group of people willing to back us in any meaningful way.

The problem with the notion that the PFIR membership was an honest but wrong-headed attempt to use them to pursue her goals (whatever they were because it wasn't reparations at the time) is a hard sell when you consider the ideological realignment with their goals she subsequently underwent. She and her followers seem to have smoke for everyone except alt right cacs. She starts clout-chasing twitter beef with Talib Kweli but makes videos defending Steve Bannon.

I got to see the dates here, because Yvette’s been talking this same immigration stuff early on (2011-2013 ish) when she was working with Boyce. First time I heard her mention PFIR was in 2017. Is it that she realigned or was she just responding to the fact the Trump/Bannon era was coming to power. If you look at her early shows post-Boyce in 2016 she was geared up to discuss the implications of an HRC presidency for the black community.

 

[Gravity]

If you can’t prove otherwise stfu

She made that choice because she thought it was the right decision politically

I don’t condone or condemn

Making up conspiracies and strawmen because you don’t agree with someone’s philosophy is some hater ass shyt . The only reason mfers feel comfortable doing it is because media(matters ) put a battery in mfers back

"I made the choice to be a board member of a white supremacist think tank, to make the case to white supremacists strategizing how to maintain white supremacy, that black people deserve reparations because we are citizens too"

It doesn't take a conspiracy theory to see through that bullshyt and put 2+2 together. You're so fukking dumb that you need this chic to come out and tell you that she's exploiting your stupid ass

 

[you're NOT "n!ggas"]

If you can’t prove otherwise stfu

She made that choice because she thought it was the right decision politically

I don’t condone or condemn

Making up conspiracies and strawmen because you don’t agree with someone’s philosophy is some hater ass shyt . The only reason mfers feel comfortable doing it is because media(matters ) put a battery in mfers back

We're venturing into dangerous waters now. Can we confirm when Yvette joined PFIR? She's been with them at least since 2017 per the tax documents.

And here she is in 2016 arguing against identity politics.... but she joined PFIR to advocate for ADOS people???

8 minute mark. We on they bumper today.

Also, why isn't she denying the allegations of them being a white supremacist group?

 

[LeVraiPapi]

If you can’t prove otherwise stfu

She made that choice because she thought it was the right decision politically

I don’t condone or condemn

Making up conspiracies and strawmen because you don’t agree with someone’s philosophy is some hater ass shyt . The only reason mfers feel comfortable doing it is because media(matters ) put a battery in mfers back

So you believe that BS about her joining a racist group that glorifies the KKK and white supremacy to make a case for Black people being American citizens ? Not just 1 meeting but she sits on their board.

If you believe that, please dont even waste your time replying to me

 

[Stone Cold]

"I made the choice to be a board member of a white supremacist think tank, to make the case to white supremacists strategizing how to maintain white supremacy, that black people deserve reparations because we are citizens too"

It doesn't take a conspiracy theory to see through that bullshyt and put 2+2 together. You're so fukking dumb that you need this chic to come out and tell you that she's exploiting your stupid ass

You are basing you hypothesis on what SPLC claims...when SPLC themselves had racism issues within their group.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/03/29/us/splc-leadership-crisis/index.html?r=https://www.google.com/

Who’s maintaining white supremacy again?

 

[Stone Cold]

Also, why isn't she denying the allegations of them being a white supremacist group?

Because the allegations came from SPLC which is financially backed by *reads notecard* George Soros

 

[Gravity]

You are basing you hypothesis on what SPLC claims...when SPLC themselves had racism issues within their group.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/03/29/us/splc-leadership-crisis/index.html?r=https://www.google.com/

Who’s maintaining white supremacy again?

I don't give a fukk about the splc. You can find out about John Tanton and what he's been up to throughout his life without using them as a resource. You think by discrediting the splc that discredits the truth about Tanton?

 

[Stone Cold]

I don't give a fukk about the splc. You can find out about John Tanton and what he's been up to throughout his life without using them as a resource. You think by discrediting the splc that discredits the truth about Tanton?

SPLC was one of the first to expose John Tanton for better or for worse. It’s important that all critique is done in good faith.

The Truth that we know from SPLC is based upon logical fallacies like “guilt by association” Ad Hominem (Guilt by Association) that consequently umbrellaed into anti-Yvette talking points as well

“Mr. Dees and the S.P.L.C. have been credited with undermining the influence of the Ku Klux Klan and extremist groups. But in recent years, the center has come under scrutiny for its classifications of ‘hate groups,’ and whether the organization has abused that label in pursuit of a political agenda or increased donations,”
Morris Dees, a Co-Founder of the Southern Poverty Law Center, Is Ousted

It’s important to understand what influences SPLC to label something a “hate-group”. I certainly wouldn’t consider NOI and the New Black Panther Party “hate-groups” But here they are lumped in with John Tanton

“It seems the Southern Poverty Law Center’s true purpose is to discredit and disrupt progressive forward-thinking revolutionary Black organizations under the disguise of being a so-called watchdog group. But for decades now all they’ve done is slander the good work and the good deeds of the Nation of Islam and the New Black Panther Party,”- Krystal Muhammad( national chairwoman of the New Black Panther Party. )