Brandon M.
City of Angels
this is a JOKE
Youth Curfew to go into effect in Newark, NJ /* begins May 3rd
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this is a JOKE
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Agree. They must have encountered some pushback. From where? and on on what grounds? I couldn't guess.
It wasn't enforceable
How would they know the difference between a 19 year old and a 17 year old? (not even joking)
What if a kid was out of the house a avoiding an abuser and now they make them go back?
What were they going to do with a teen who was with a older friend or sibling? A 16 year old with a 18 year old?
Apart from that it was quickly going to turn into a logistical nightmare at best a juvenile stop and frisk at worst
They want to make any impact they need to "catch" these kids in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd grade.
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im curious about your stance here since your pro hitler
juvenile stop and frisk?
sounds like gestapo and hes a hitler supporter so
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How wouldn't it be enforcable? Teens either have license or school ID on them, if not they would be taken in.
At the press conference the Mayor and the police chief will inform residents about the details. Parents who actually care about their children will know what to do moving forward.
Public safety measures like this one are to catch the followers and those on the brink of entering a criminal lifestyle and help to reign them in. Gives support to parents who no longer have influence over the teen's decision making.
It's not going to stop those dedicated to the streets already. Can only serve as a deterrent for those who aren't.
The FB post from Newark Police that was in OP was taken down, but the first line said , "to prevent teens from being victims". That was overlooked, but it's very real. Stick up kids out at night would target the sneakers, clothes, accessories, phones, and cash of anybody who they can get the drop on. Especially teens rocking the newest/latest shyt.
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Agree 100 percent. I see the point of it in general, but how do you enforce it? Then you mix in overzealous cops (some who I know of personally) who can’t wait to put a boot on somebody and you could be setting yourself up for a possible Mike Brown situation.
I think the city is looking at not wanting to end up fighting multiple lawsuits vs the amount of crime this may stop. Not the best way to look at things but running a city is tough.
Also agree this would just be putting a bandaid on a problem that needs surgery. Gotta catch kids younger and provide alternatives. The ones that are teenagers now it’s too late.
I can guarantee you none of it was actually thought through
"a verbal warning and escorted home where they will be released to their parent or guardian."
What happens no parent or guardian is home? Or if they went to work? Leave the kid alone? Take him to some secondary location? Who is doing this the police?
" If the individual has a second infraction within six months, they will be taken to the Newark Police Youth Strategies Section at 43 dikkerson St. where their parent or guardian can pick them up."
Do the infractions reset after 6 months? What if the parent or guardian can't pick them?
" Repeat violations could result in the juvenile's parent or guardian being referred to the New Jersey Department of Children and Families Office of child Protection and Permanency."
Is this department prepared or funded for the massive influx of new cases? I bet you there not.
I'm just not seeing alot of thought into this whole thing, basically sounds like a giant threat. Keep track of your kids or they get a slap on the wrist and you'll be hassled.
As someone who used to work in city in both social services and with kids,Newark is a severely underfunded, understaffed and overwhelmed with generational poverty and social issues. This was going to do very little to prevent teen crime, just put more kids on paper in a broken system.
Get the adult crimes under control first and the rest will fall in place.
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Surge in youth crimes has lead many politicians across the state to push for "calling on the governor and state legislators to enact stricter criminal penalties and more accountability for juveniles who are convicted of serious crimes such as home invasions, robberies and auto thefts."
That's taken from a recent article about teen suspects arrested for crimes, and it mirrors the exact same sentiment expressed after arrests the past 2 years.
This goes against what Gov. Murphy has stood for in terms of criminal Justice reforms. And I believe he is going to give Newark and other cities the resources to try ways to deter crime. He would rather do that, than for the crime stats to force the state Assembly + Senate to further dial back some of the reform measures he's advocated for.
That's the governor's motivation for getting behind all of the prevention/deterrence measures.
As the Mayor, it's Baraka's job to protect the residents of the city. Once it goes into effect, teens who choose to break the curfew sign up for whatever the consequences are.
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there is prolly a lot of kids raising themselves damn near.
CPS would have to be involved in a lot of these scenarios.
Yup and parents drugged out too, I'm not saying nothing should be done I just don't know if another punitive type system is what's needed
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Mercenary
Newark's housing crisis has been well documented. It was reported last week that Newark had the 2nd highest rent increase in the country. When the oligarchs want to gentrify a city, they make it hard for the natives to live there. Directly raising one's rent does that. Also, the oligarchs can put a Black celebrity face, like Shaquille O'Neal or Clown Latifah, out front and have them invest in unaffordable housing which will residually increase the cost of living throughout the city.
Directly to this thread topic; when the oligarchs make it a point to target and criminalize the natives, particularly children, that makes it hard for people to live there for multiple reasons. That's the root of this garbage idea of a police enforced youth curfew. Yesterday a criminal matter, that was sort of infamous locally, was disposed. It involved unjustified police harassment of some young Black men. I doubt the thread-starter, or any of the other Uncle Toms that think the premise of this thread is a 'good idea,' know about it. None of this is about public safety. It's ultimately about a few oligarchs and a few of their cronies getting paid.
Directly to this thread topic; when the oligarchs make it a point to target and criminalize the natives, particularly children, that makes it hard for people to live there for multiple reasons. That's the root of this garbage idea of a police enforced youth curfew. Yesterday a criminal matter, that was sort of infamous locally, was disposed. It involved unjustified police harassment of some young Black men. I doubt the thread-starter, or any of the other Uncle Toms that think the premise of this thread is a 'good idea,' know about it. None of this is about public safety. It's ultimately about a few oligarchs and a few of their cronies getting paid.
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That's one of several developer projects that have been completed and planned over the past ten years.
Don't know the last time you've been back.
These are outs and deflections.
Hard for me to believe that people who are from the city, and know what Baraka's background and track record as activist and mayor is are running with "bu bu but he's doing it because developers told him to"
His consistency about public safety for residents is partly why Newark avoided the 2020 riots when other cities in the region fell victim to that dumb shyt.
And he's continued the work that Booker was doing in terms of bringing down crime and homicide rates.
But all that goes out the window, so dudes can run with "bu bu bu but the curfew is to protect white people ."
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He lives in Jim Crow country, so he thinks everywhere is Jim Crow country.