Young Men Giving Up On Marriage, Because "Women Aren't Women Anymore."

[Reality]

I think the solution to the breakdown in "marriage" -- and the path to redefining it -- lies in actually talking to your woman about such things in real life. People talk about this stuff online, but in real life it's taboo -- so it gets to fester under the radar.

Talk to her about the gender wars, about the breakdown of marriage and black relations, etc. -- and see where her head is at.

Far more important that nonsense like "cooking" ()-- having a woman who you can talk to about ANYTHING, without her becoming defensive, combative, or emotional -- is a great sign.

...Plus you spot those red flags early on by bringing up these topics, and be sure you're on the same page.

This is golden and took me 3 relationships to figure out. Just cut to the heart of the issue once you know what you want.

Soak up game brehs.

Though cooking is still important lol

 

[the bossman]

What do wives do?

And you can have kids without getting married.

Black community gonna continue to be in shambles with all this anti black family rhetoric.

Just what we need. More black youth growing up in broken homes.

 

[the bossman]

I think the solution to the breakdown in "marriage" -- and the path to redefining it -- lies in actually talking to your woman about such things in real life. People talk about this stuff online, but in real life it's taboo -- so it gets to fester under the radar.

Talk to her about the gender wars, about the breakdown of marriage and black relations, etc. -- and see where her head is at.

Far more important that nonsense like "cooking" ()-- having a woman who you can talk to about ANYTHING, without her becoming defensive, combative, or emotional -- is a great sign.

...Plus you spot those red flags early on by bringing up these topics, and be sure you're on the same page.

All this. You gotta get these broads comfortable and see where they heads at

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Where are y'all finding these women who can't cook and don't wanna clean? I've read this by a lot of posters here

 

[ThiefyPoo]

not surprising. what is left for a dude in marriage other than massive financial liability? Lots of cats would love to get married, but when the girl they are talking to has already given it up to 49 other dudes, it's like what is there for me? Most women won't or don't cook and clean. The only thing that the average man is getting in a relationship is problems.

That’s not always the case breh .

I have a friend that’s a doctor .

She studied hard got through school .

Bought a crib ,travels and enjoys life .
Do you know how many nikkas kept asking what’s wrong with her .

They never thought maybe she had strict caribbean parents who made her finish school .

She also was always in a relationships since hs so she wanst out there like some women .


So in her late 20’s is when she got to date .

Recently had a baby now every nikka in the world tryna date her .

She like where the fukk were y’all at when I was single and free .


Shawty not with the father of her child so she single again . I guess dudes like ahh ok now you got a flaw .


That shyt is so crazy to me .

 

[ThiefyPoo]

Black community gonna continue to be in shambles with all this anti black family rhetoric.

Just what we need. More black youth growing up in broken homes.

Brehhhhhhhh!!!!

 

[Eddy Gordo]

Black community gonna continue to be in shambles wit all this anti black family rhetoric.

Just what we need. More black youth growing up in broken homes.

It's gonna be in shambles then

I'm not gonna tell young brehs to do something that's not to thier benefit.

Trying to shame young men into marriage with the "but the community" and "oh the children".

The young men ain't marrying the community. They marrying women. Make better women.



.And you don't care about broken homes. if you really wanted to fix these broken homes you would find the most destitute single mothers you could find and wife em up. Saving the kids from poverty and giving them a male role model.

 

[Eddy Gordo]

That’s not always the case breh .

I have a friend that’s a doctor .

She studied hard got through school .

Bought a crib ,travels and enjoys life .
Do you know how many nikkas kept asking what’s wrong with her .

They never thought maybe she had strict caribbean parents who made her finish school .

She also was always in a relationships since hs so she wanst out there like some women .


So in her late 20’s is when she got to date .

Recently had a baby now every nikka in the world tryna date her .

She like where the fukk were y’all at when I was single and free .


Shawty not with the father of her child so she single again . I guess dudes like ahh ok now you got a flaw .


That shyt is so crazy to me .

But are they trying to wife her up doe?

 

[futureDevelopment]

It's gonna be in shambles then

I'm not gonna tell young brehs to do something that's not to thier benefit.

Trying to shame young men into marriage with the "but the community" and "oh the children".

The young men ain't marrying the community. They marrying women. Make better women.

Yup. These guys don't want to look at the root cause of the decline.

My generation is shyt out of look if we simply want a woman that's not tatted up like a sailor, let alone meeting other basics.

The rot is deep.

 

[360dagod]

That’s not always the case breh .

I have a friend that’s a doctor .

She studied hard got through school .

Bought a crib ,travels and enjoys life .
Do you know how many nikkas kept asking what’s wrong with her .

They never thought maybe she had strict caribbean parents who made her finish school .

She also was always in a relationships since hs so she wanst out there like some women .


So in her late 20’s is when she got to date .

Recently had a baby now every nikka in the world tryna date her .

She like where the fukk were y’all at when I was single and free .


Shawty not with the father of her child so she single again . I guess dudes like ahh ok now you got a flaw .


That shyt is so crazy to me .

When exactly was she single and free if she always was in relationships...am I missing something

She recently had a baby and the father already bounced..

nikkas circling because she about to be "free" and explore..

Most women who get sheltered eventually "explore"....

 

[MikeOck]

They've been heavily entering the work place since the 80s, this is not new. What is new is that women are beginning to out pace men when it comes to education. I actually agree, brehs need to step their game up in that regard. Women out number men in medical school now, for instance.

Women aren't just settling for losers anymore. Sure you can always find women who will settle, but overall a very large group of women are very career and education driven...and by the time they hit 25 years old they start lapping a lot of their male peers. Then they're in a situation where they have a decent-to-good job but have financial liabilities (student loans)...and they start looking for someone who can help them, who is on their level or ahead. I'm not saying they start looking for men who will give them money, sugar daddies etc. I'm talking about professional women who start looking for professional men. They want to build relationships and find some stability with dual incomes. This is why a lot of chicks in their 20s end up with guys in their late 20s/early 30s.

And what do they find, when they re-enter the dating word in their mid to late 20s? An army of bitter, unmotivated young men who have jack shyt going on for them in life. They ignore those men and look for more successful partners...and those bitter dudes get more bitter, more violent (in the case of white men), more miserable, etc. And then we get threads like...well, like the ones that constantly pop up on the Coli with dudes getting so EMOTIONAL and angry over women...doing random things lmao.


I'm 31, successful, doing good. It blows my mind how many women just outright FLOCK to me. Often times they're chicks who heard about me from someone at my job. Or they see me at a restaurant during my lunch hour, in a suit, and approach me. Women WANT relationships. They are literally out here searching everywhere for successful men - hell, they're searching for men who just have shyt going on in life, even if they aren't successful. THEY WANT YOU. You have to be available, by putting yourself in position. All these dating gurus and red pill bullshytters who have men living in the gym are missing the fukking point. It doesn't matter how brolic you are if you have no personality, no money, and no PATH in life.

Looks like you think money is the key and fukk the rest. You're probably nothing but a walking ATM to these bytches. Don't come here making threads when your ass gets finessed in the near future.

 

[The M.I.C.]

Only me and @Barnett114 know what the people want

 

[Mountain]

I'm not a liberal.
That "we can do it without marriage" quote sounds nice.

I'm pragmatic, I know full-well that it doesn't actually happen in real life.
Poorer communities and impoverished ethnic communities in particular rely more on informal arrangements like you're describing.
And they fail in every metric across the board. In part due to the inflexibility of the system to acquiesce to the arrangements, in part because the people making up the arrangements tend to be unreliable, especially the men, and it falls apart within a few years.

My parents are 20+ years married, so I take that as my primary focus.

If you were indeed "pragmatic" you'd acknowledge that divorce rates indicate marriage isn't as reliable or stable as you perhaps think, despite outliers like your parents.

As most know, divorce rates are incredibly high and increasing rapidly. So you essentially want our communities to rely on a failing institution to keep our families together, does that really sound like a "pragmatic" solution to you?

This issue is alot more nuanced than you understand, which is a common problem I notice with your posts. You're a smart man with alot of potential but you need to be careful, you don't have all the answers.

 

[badtguy]

lol. That's bullshyt. Macho-signalling, outdated gender roles bullshyt.

You can cook for yourself. You can cook for her in fact. Or any combination.

There's nothing special about cooking. No more special than doing the laundry or making the bed.

There are a million ways a woman can show you love that are more valuable than cooking. And if your cooking is so healthy, why the alarming incidence of obesity, high blood pressure, diabetes etc. in the black community? And if cooking is such a sign of "love" why are black relations swirling right down the toilet in 2019?

But I'm gonna take ya mans advice and not go back and forth with you guys.

Y'all aint trying to make sense -- you're trying to "machismo signal".

"A real man demands a woman dat bees a-COOKIN! Now call the ambalamps whilst I have my third heart attack"


"Cause all women can fukk, suck dikk, borrow you money, let your drive their car, look good, hit the gym, use make up or extensions to look better.."



"I tell a good women by the way she cook rice"
...

Yo I let your dumb ass slide the first time- about your stereotypical Black comments but you sound mad stupid.
Nobody said anything about black community or black relationships.
I'm talking strictly male female gender roles- there is no culture in the world that doesn't expect a man to provide and a woman to nurture.

I specifically said cooking nutritious meals for the family- so i dont know where you got diabetes, high blood pressure from
nothing in my posts indicates im talking about bw or bm or the black community.


stupid ass nikka

 

[badtguy]

I think the solution to the breakdown in "marriage" -- and the path to redefining it -- lies in actually talking to your woman about such things in real life. People talk about this stuff online, but in real life it's taboo -- so it gets to fester under the radar.

Talk to her about the gender wars, about the breakdown of marriage and black relations, etc. -- and see where her head is at.

Far more important that nonsense like "cooking" ()-- having a woman who you can talk to about ANYTHING, without her becoming defensive, combative, or emotional -- is a great sign.

...Plus you spot those red flags early on by bringing up these topics, and be sure you're on the same page.

there is nothing in this post that hasn't been said already. but you keep talking about cooking.
i don't know any guy that would wife a woman they cannot talk about work,politics,family,society with like....... that's common sense.

Obviously any woman that is nurturing would be able to do the above.