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@Peter Parker @blackwaterpark @Zeu$ @Broletariat

:salute: You guys all know your shyt. What are your respective favorite albums from the genre?
Suffocation - Effigy of the Forgotten
Mithras - Worlds Beyond the Veil
Atheist - Unquestionable Presence
Deicide - Legion
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss
Morbid Angel - Blessed Are the Sick
Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger
Slough Feg - Down Among the Deadmen
At the Gates - The Red in the Sky is Ours
Gorguts - Obscura
Bathory - Blood, Fire, Death
Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse
Sepultura - Morbid Visions/Bestial Devastation
Massacra - Final Holocaust
Immortal - Pure Holocaust
Summoning - Dol Goldur
Dismember - Like an Everflowing Stream
Morpheus Descends - Ritual of Infinity
!T.O.O.H!- Rad a Trest
Lykathea Aflame - Elvenefris
Slayer - Hell Awaits
Acid Bath - When the Kite String Pops


and more. Great genre of music.
 

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Suffocation - Effigy of the Forgotten
Mithras - Worlds Beyond the Veil
Atheist - Unquestionable Presence
Deicide - Legion
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss
Morbid Angel - Blessed Are the Sick
Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger
Slough Feg - Down Among the Deadmen
At the Gates - The Red in the Sky is Ours
Gorguts - Obscura
Bathory - Blood, Fire, Death
Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse
Sepultura - Morbid Visions/Bestial Devastation
Massacra - Final Holocaust
Immortal - Pure Holocaust
Summoning - Dol Goldur
Dismember - Like an Everflowing Stream
Morpheus Descends - Ritual of Infinity
!T.O.O.H!- Rad a Trest
Lykathea Aflame - Elvenefris
Slayer - Hell Awaits
Acid Bath - When the Kite String Pops


and more. Great genre of music.
Do you not mind the views of Varg Vikernes(of Burzum)? Or do you take the separate the art from the artist approach?

Just curious
 

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Do you not mind the views of Varg Vikernes(of Burzum)? Or do you take the separate the art from the artist approach?

Just curious
Separate the art from the artist. The majority of the artists I like are fukking morons, and I wouldn't agree with them on much. Same is true for rap.
 

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:ohhh:........I see you, breh.........


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More brutal = better. I listened to their first album while sleeping and had nightmares for a week.
I fukked with the 1st two Deicide albums, but nothing after that really grabbed me although I've tried to give them a listen. Homage For Satan is cool though.



this is still the greatest thing Glen Benton has been apart of though :pachaha:
 

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My top albums ...hmmm anyone reading this will see i'm somewhat of a snob cause i dont be digging into the obscure shyt. Post/Sludge and progressive metal are what i fukk with. I prefer to actually hear what i'm listening too...and its nothing like those sweet tidbits of jazz and the blues fused with metal :blessed:

I'm selective but the shyt i do listen to I stand by hard. All my top faves are basically from Isis, Opeth and Tool
  1. Lateralus
  2. Panopticon
  3. Blackwater Park
  4. Aenima
  5. Ghost Reveries
  6. Superunknown
  7. Oceanic
  8. 13th Step
  9. Dirt
  10. Salvation
  11. White Pony
  12. Follow the Leader
  13. Black Gives Way to Blue
  14. Mer de noms
  15. Leviathan
 
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More brutal = better. I listened to their first album while sleeping and had nightmares for a week.
I know it looks that I heavily fx with only the 'brutal' death and black metal shyt, but I only like it the most because the best composed shyt comes from there IMO. For example peep this early At the Gates cut. Beautiful melodies, counterpoint. If you can look past the aesthetic grit, there's real incredible music underneath there.




Or the latin jazzy rhythm in jazz-death hybrids like Atheist, Pestilence, or Cynic :lupe: :ohhh:



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You should check out Sigh, Maudlin of the Well, and Acid Bath. I think you'd like all 3 bands.
 

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Broletariat said:
I know it looks that I heavily fx with only the 'brutal' death and black metal shyt, but I only like it the most because the best composed shyt comes from there IMO. For example peep this early At the Gates cut. Beautiful melodies, counterpoint. If you can look past the aesthetic grit, there's real incredible music underneath there.

:myman:.......My exact thought. The timing and interplay of the instruments is INCREDIBLE!!! When peeps ask 'How can you listen to that noise?' I know they aren't listening to what I'm hearing........







Play this shyt as loud as possible........

 
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I know it looks that I heavily fx with only the 'brutal' death and black metal shyt, but I only like it the most because the best composed shyt comes from there IMO. For example peep this early At the Gates cut. Beautiful melodies, counterpoint. If you can look past the aesthetic grit, there's real incredible music underneath there.




Or the latin jazzy rhythm in jazz-death hybrids like Atheist, Pestilence, or Cynic :lupe: :ohhh:



@Asantehene

You should check out Sigh, Maudlin of the Well, and Acid Bath. I think you'd like all 3 bands.

fam you have to explain what you mean by best composed. Cause from a composition, instrumental standpoint I dont see how thats fukkin with sludge or post metal...something like:




i especially picked those songs cause I can tell you like the speed drumming and blast beats. Or else you wouldnt be a black metal fan. The shrieked vocals are a turn of for me though

but beyond that..if were really talking about composition ...how is it fukkin with as delicate, patient and beautiful as :blessed::


I just dont get a sense of technicality or rhythm listening to black metal. The pace is too fast and there isnt enough layering or buildups. I'm sure one day i'll find myself wandering and caught up in the :demonic: realm though.

I've stumbled across acid bath and motW on wikipedia/sputnikmusic before. I might check em out
 

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lol I thought the name @Broletariat i thought the name At the Gates looked familiar. A friend of mine is into them. Also mentioned "Black Dahlia Murder" and "The Acacia Strain"
 

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By best composed I don't mean greatest show of technicality. If I did, I'd stan shyt bands like Dream Theater, Dillinger Escape Plan, Necrophagist etc. I'd like Paganini more than Corelli, etc. Technicality is cool, but it's not what I look for exclusively. Some of the best and dopest metal bands are really simple, like Havohej or Burzum. But they express something using musical language in a metal framework. I don't fukk with most sludge stuff (I like Neurosis and Jesu to an extent) because I just don't find it that impressive.

Black Metal isn't about complexity or technicality either. It's about using melodic development to express the self. Good metal at it's core is sorta like music from the baroque->romantic period; it expresses through composition.

For example those two bands i posted are actually quite conventional in some respects. They use consonant melodies to construct their music, but do so in a very intelligent way. Atheist is incredible because they twist 80s and 90s death metal riffs perfectly into a free jazz framework like Coltrane or Coleman, and there's a similar tonal approach. Yet it's still intrinsically metal. Compare this to a Between the Buried and Me or other 'progressive' bands that simply play in contrasting time signatures and throw in keyboard interludes here and there to give an impression of being free and forward thinking. But all they're doing is pasting things together from different sources without integrating them and building upon them thematically and musically. At the Gates are incredible on that album (and their second, but they later became shyt), because they drive songs forward using musical motifs with contrast in counterpoint and harmonization. It seems simple, but the intertwining melodies they use are modern classical in nature almost like a Bruckner. Listen again, and note that this music is not based upon repetition or novelty, but upon a progression from one point to another that supercedes a rock paradigm into something approaching the ambient or romantic music spectrum. You have to see beneath the noise to discover the melodies underneath. They may be dissonant, but they're there.

Sorry if that's incomprehensible. But don't be fooled by the label of 'progressive'. Most of these guys calling themselves so aren't constructing things smartly, just fast and with different time signatures :beli:

I don't expect people to enjoy or like it though :yeshrug:


 

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:myman:.......My exact thought. The timing and interplay of the instruments is INCREDIBLE!!! When peeps ask 'How can you listen to that noise?' I know they aren't listening to what I'm hearing........


:myman: you simply have to develop an ear for it, and tbh I was raised on classical and jazz theory (i used to play guitar for both) and so it doesn't bother me but I listen to lots of different forms of extreme music in the electronic realm and otherwise :yeshrug:

Some people get it, some people don't.
 
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