"You Can Only Avoid The Truth For So Long" Brook v Spence SHOWTIME 5/27 Fight Thread

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23Barrettcity

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Both are talented, one just decided to work harder and focus more with their talent. Biggest difference between Zab and Floyd. Floyd worked a lot harder while being slightly less talented than Zab.

The talent gap ain't that big between those 2, ditto for Spence and Broner. Work ethic is what really separates these nikkas.
Ehh slightly less talented than zab??? Come on breh I love zab even paid to see him in the Barclays twice but no
 

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Ehh slightly less talented than zab??? Come on breh I love zab even paid to see him in the Barclays twice but no

Most usually say Zab is a lil more talented than Floyd, just based off the fact that he has KO one punch fight changing power. Floyd was a good strong sharp puncher, but he never had a one hitter quitter like Zab.

Plus Zab looks slightly quicker than Floyd. Even their reflexes are almost identical. The thing with Floyd is he got the most out of all his god given talent and attributes. Zab didn't put it all together as consistently as Floyd.

No body calls you 'Sweet Pea with a punch' without having crazy talent. If you think Floyd is more talented than Zab than that's you, but you in the minority. Floyd definitely proved he's the much better boxer so him being slightly less talented doesn't mean much at the end of the day.

All I been trying to say is, talent is important, but how you apply your talent is even more important.
 

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Yall nikkas throwing the #TruthSeekers thread off in attempts to randomly discussing/hating on AB???:mindblown:


My nikka aint even fight and yall cant help but discuss the 4x Champion Over 4 Different Divisions aka The Youngest Person In Boxing History To Do It bka Only The 4th Person In History To Jump 2 Divisions And Win A Championship In His Fight In The New Division:wow:


At least end yall posts with:

#AboutBillions


:aboutbillions:


...since yall obviously have The Problem on the brain:yeshrug:


*sidenote*
:camby: with struggled with Gavin Rees who he KOd in 15 minutes:comeon:



#AboutBillions


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Dude didn't make a point to me. Spence is talented and focused. Broner is talented an unfocused. Saying Broner is unfocused isn't an excuse. It's just the reality of the situation he puts himself in.

Spence has a good personality to be a star in the sport if he stays active and makes the right fights. It's just that lot of people equate personality to fukkery. These nikkas ain't outgoing and constantly into different shyt like Broner so it doesn't catch the casual eye.

Swift is a star and has a good personality too, he's always doing meet and greets, club appearances and all types of shyt to keep his name buzzing, but unlike Broner he doesn't engage in fukkery antics. Dude is just chill as fukk.

Broner never been great with adjustments, but that's a skill limitation. That has nothing to do with talent or focus. Plenty of boxers, can't make adjustments and will just fight harder when the going gets tough.

Countless fellow Boxers and trainers within the sport tout Broner's talent, and lament his lack of focus, but we have people posting here talking down on his ability:snoop:


Its just they dont know better:manny:
 

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Most usually say Zab is a lil more talented than Floyd, just based off the fact that he has KO one punch fight changing power. Floyd was a good strong sharp puncher, but he never had a one hitter quitter like Zab.

Plus Zab looks slightly quicker than Floyd. Even their reflexes are almost identical. The thing with Floyd is he got the most out of all his god given talent and attributes. Zab didn't put it all together as consistently as Floyd.


No body calls you 'Sweet Pea with a punch' without having crazy talent. If you think Floyd is more talented than Zab than that's you, but you in the minority. Floyd definitely proved he's the much better boxer so him being slightly less talented doesn't mean much at the end of the day.

All I been trying to say is, talent is important, but how you apply your talent is even more important.
Zab was more physically gifted slight advantage in speed and power.
Floyd is more talented
 

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Few quick observations

Brook vs Khan is the battle of has beens.
Thurman vs Spence Jr I favor Spence Jr..body punching and a bit more diverse...plus I think Thurman power is overrated.

I think Crawford/Spence Jr. is nothing short of God-like..I still favor Crawford but the size of Spence could be a factor.
 
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Most usually say Zab is a lil more talented than Floyd, just based off the fact that he has KO one punch fight changing power. Floyd was a good strong sharp puncher, but he never had a one hitter quitter like Zab.

Plus Zab looks slightly quicker than Floyd. Even their reflexes are almost identical. The thing with Floyd is he got the most out of all his god given talent and attributes. Zab didn't put it all together as consistently as Floyd.

No body calls you 'Sweet Pea with a punch' without having crazy talent. If you think Floyd is more talented than Zab than that's you, but you in the minority. Floyd definitely proved he's the much better boxer so him being slightly less talented doesn't mean much at the end of the day.

All I been trying to say is, talent is important, but how you apply your talent is even more important.

I always thought of Zab & Floyd as the real life Boxing version of Ken & Ryu:heh:



Zab & Floyd = Ken & Ryu or McGrady & Kobe
 

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spence doesnt throw punches pre determinedly. when he throws a punch he is feeling you out and reading your reactions to pick when and where to add on more punches next.

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spence doesnt move his head a lot but he does have a good step back. guys with good step backs tend to maintain front foot pressure to stay ready to press down and push off and step back. he may not move his head a lot but he does stay ready to step back.

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spence comes in carefully not recklessly. when he throws a jab he throws it to feel you out. he is trying to read your reactions to know when to add on more punches to the jab or when to step back. spence can counter but he is not really a counter puncher. he takes turns. my turn. your turn.

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spence uses his jab to feel you out and read you to know when to add on more punches and take his turn and he uses his step back when you try to take your turn. its basic. it works. brook uses his jab to hang you out on the end of his reach where he can maintain the range he needs to have to steal you with right hands, hit you with pull counters, and step back and hit you with check hooks.

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spence comes in carefully not recklessly and wont run into a lot of counters but just a threat of being countered can make spence a lot more tentative coming in. brook throws one jab every few seconds. spence is going to try to mount attacks during the dead gaps in between brook jabs. brook has to steal right hands and try to force spence to step back and reset when he is trying to take turns during his dead gaps. a mixture of counter punching and stealing can make spence tentative and uncertain and free up brook to coast with the jab.



so does brook. but spence hits harder. when spence mounts attacks during brook dead gaps brook cant just cover up or be passive. spence can sense when you are just trying to cover up. when you get passive he gets vicious. when spence jabs and can sense nothing is coming back he adds on more punches.

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when spence adds on more punches to his jabs he tends to go down to the body and wrap up his combos with clean up hooks around your elbow. he likes to go down to the body but he really likes to hit you everywhere. arms. hips. up. down. he likes to make a lot of contact.

brook has to grab spence whenever he comes in to prevent big combos from racking up to avoid a lot of damage from accruing and compounding from round to round and to shut down a big chunk of where spence generates a lot of workrate.

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brook cant be stationary. spence likes to set his feet. a guy who can stick and move has a big advantage over a guy who has to set his feet to punch. the guy who can stick and move can maintain a nice and steady workrate but the guy who has to set his feet cant. when you stick and move on a guy who has to set his feet to punch you do two things. you bring up your workrate. you bring down his. brook is a mover but he is not a pure mover. he has a tendency to transition into a boxer puncher and he has a nasty habit of backing up into the ropes and into corners. he cant back up into the ropes and into corners or spence is going to take care of business.

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brook is a really cute boxer and he can do a lot of really cute things. but he is not a hard guy to get to and i think spence gets to brook.

spence by ko


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I always thought of Zab & Floyd as the real life Boxing version of Ken & Ryu:heh:



Zab & Floyd = Ken & Ryu or McGrady & Kobe

Yup,

Floyd/Ryu always focused on training and becoming the best in the world. Dragon punching tall ass nikkas like Corrales and Sagat while developing their chi.
while.....

Zab/Ken traveling as far as their money can take them, fighting random nikkas like Pineda and T-Hawk in back alleys, engaging in fukkery filled dice game scraps and smashing thots at rap video shoots.
 

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Yup,

Floyd/Ryu always focused on training and becoming the best in the world. Dragon punching tall ass nikkas like Corrales and Sagat while developing their chi.
while.....

Zab/Ken traveling as far as their money can take them, fighting random nikkas like Pineda and T-Hawk in back alleys, engaging in fukkery filled dice game scraps and smashing thots at rap video shoots.

Yep:russ:
 

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Yup,

Floyd/Ryu always focused on training and becoming the best in the world. Dragon punching tall ass nikkas like Corrales and Sagat while developing their chi.
while.....

Zab/Ken traveling as far as their money can take them, fighting random nikkas like Pineda and T-Hawk in back alleys, engaging in fukkery filled dice game scraps and smashing thots at rap video shoots.


Facts


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Most usually say Zab is a lil more talented than Floyd, just based off the fact that he has KO one punch fight changing power. Floyd was a good strong sharp puncher, but he never had a one hitter quitter like Zab.

Plus Zab looks slightly quicker than Floyd. Even their reflexes are almost identical. The thing with Floyd is he got the most out of all his god given talent and attributes. Zab didn't put it all together as consistently as Floyd.

No body calls you 'Sweet Pea with a punch' without having crazy talent. If you think Floyd is more talented than Zab than that's you, but you in the minority. Floyd definitely proved he's the much better boxer so him being slightly less talented doesn't mean much at the end of the day.

All I been trying to say is, talent is important, but how you apply your talent is even more important.
Well floyds accuracy and defense and ability to hurt bigger fighters to me are definitely way mire impressive .
 
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