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It's pretty clear some are underestimating the impact that a special, high-floor, high-ceiling QB can bring compared to bad/mediocre-at-best ones.

Caleb is a whole other two or three tiers above Fields and Trubisky as a passer and a cerebral QB. That's the difference. Fields was the 11th prospect taken and a DE was taken over Trubisky. Meanwhile, for the mass majority of fanbases, scouts, draft specialists, etc. there is no dispute who should be going #1. Dude is a true, clear cut #1 pick QB. Caleb the mass majority of the time is picked as the best prospect over some really, really good QB's this draft like Drake Maye and special talents like MHJ.

That'll be an enormous difference and you're already stacking dude with a high-potential WR and what looks like a strong running attack. Further, you can get picks for Fields because fanbases like Atlanta's really want Fields.

You draft Caleb, stack picks that you use for OL and you have zero questions about your passing attack going forward. You now have a QB with basically zero question marks to build around, rather than someone who has a ton of them. There's a clear gap between the two in terms of pure QB talent.
 
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If Poles thinks Caleb is going to be a better QB than Justin, he should take him. Its pretty simple. Getting the QB right is the most important piece of the puzzle.

I dont even care what they decide to do, we are in a great spot regardless. I just know I am done watching 160 yard passing games and thinking shyt is OK. We need to do whatever is necessary in developing a modern passing attack.

I dont think there is any scenario Getsy is back. I think Flus did some good things, but if hes not the leader to get this offense on track, then get rid of him too. The focus of building this team should be putting together a dynamic offense. We have PLENTY of resources on hand to correct this during the offseason.

Im also not sure why everyone is suddenly so adverse to the idea of Caleb fukking Williams either - imagine the Bears and their fans thinking he wasnt worth it a year ago today. You'd think we were talking about some bum QB. Nobody here can even entertain the idea that he might be better than Fields? :skip:
 

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Honestly, I feel like everyone is missing the main point both Green Bay and the Texans have tremendous play callers that makes the difference look at the fall of the eagles when Shane Steichen left coaching means everything in the NFL getsy is legit one of the worst play callers and game planners in the league after the script plays are done heā€™s awful no Qb will be successful under him
did you or many people in general think Bobby Slowik was a tremendous play caller before CJ Stroud was cooking ?

I havent seen many people, not on the coli or elsewhere, evaluate the young OCs before they are good. often they are mocked until they are successful.
 

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Honestly, I feel like everyone is missing the main point both Green Bay and the Texans have tremendous play callers that makes the difference look at the fall of the eagles when Shane Steichen left coaching means everything in the NFL getsy is legit one of the worst play callers and game planners in the league after the script plays are done heā€™s awful no Qb will be successful under him
I have seen great receivers play with bad quarterbacks, but I have never seen great quarterbacks play with bad receivers.
 

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did you or many people in general think Bobby Slowik was a tremendous play caller before CJ Stroud was cooking ?

I havent seen many people, not on the coli or elsewhere, evaluate the young OCs before they are good. often they are mocked until they are successful.

Breh give me one just one young qb in the history of the nfl that look good with a bad oc just one
 

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I guess I just donā€™t have a football mind. How is it clear Caleb is a generational QB? Because it really wasn't clear in college.

Right now heā€™s the one but when itā€™s season 4 and the bears possibly have a losing record with him at the end of season, everyone will claim they knew he wasnā€™t all that day 1.

I see the switch up with other QBs and nba players all the time around here, the media, and fans in general.

Someone give me convincing proof other than Fields didnā€™t set himself up to look good at the end of the season.


And oh yeahā€¦. I remember the hype when bears drafted fields.

Fake shyt
 

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Breh give me one just one young qb in the history of the nfl that look good with a bad oc just one
how do you separate that though ? thats kinda my point

I think bobby slowik might have been viewed in a different light if his QB was bryce young. chances are no one would say hes a tremendous play caller
 

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the franchise with the worst history of QBs looking down on Caleb Williams is comedy tbh
Whoā€™s looking down on Caleb? Iā€™m down for drafting Caleb and hiring a new coaching staff but people can have their concerns on Caleb but I think with the right coaching he can be a star in this league
 

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Caleb is ranked usually in the top 3-4 college QB's going back to Andrew Luck of the last 15 years. Right in the Trevor Lawrence/Joe Burrow argument.

No, ya'll haven't had a QB with potential like that because not too many teams have.
 

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Caleb is literally ranked in the top 3-4 college QB's going back to Andrew Luck of the last 15 years. Right in the Lawrence/Burrow argument.

Comparing Fields's and Trubisky's potential to this guy is hilarious.

Trevor Lawrence? The same guy that was outplayed by Ryan Tannehill today? Really?

So Joe Burrow throws to 2 of the best wide receivers in the NFL. Who exactly would Caleb Williams be throwing to on the Bears?
 
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