That's not the same at all, ESPECIALLY when all three were on the Bulls at the same time.Caleb projects to be HIM
Passing on him because you have a decent QB would be like the Bulls passing on Rose because they had Hinrich and Ben Gordon.
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It is the same. The argument is drafting best player available vs for need/position.
the cupboard here isnt bare though, you draft Caleb at #1 and he has Moore, Kmet, Mooney (or whatever WR piece we add), solid running back core, a young improving OL and a young dynamic looking defense - and not to mention like 90 mil in capspace and a rookie QB contract for 5 years
and we dont have to give up any picks or assets to get him - and still have another top 10 pick in the mix and the rest of our draft capital (and whatever you get back from Fields, probably like a 2nd & a 4th)
#1 picks have gone to MUCH worst situations than we have here
this is all going to come down to how high Poles and his team grade out Caleb - if they grade him as an A+, franchise changing QB, they are going to take him IMO
we have ample resources to immediately build a strong cast around Caleb if Poles went that route
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Caleb projects to be HIM
Passing on him because you have a decent QB would be like the Bulls passing on Rose because they had Hinrich and Ben Gordon.
NO
1. JUSTIN IS AN ELITE TALENT
2. THE NFL ISNT LIKE THE NBA
WHERE ONE GUY CAN TURN A BAD
TEAM INTO WINNERS
SO YOU DONT TAKE THE BEST
GUY ON THE BOARD
IF THATS NOT THE POSITION YOUR
TEAM NEEDS TO FILL.
USE THAT PICK TO
SURROUND JUSTIN WITH MORE TALENT
AND THE TEAM WILL FLOURISH.
A MEDIOCRE TALENT LIKE BROCK PURDY
BEING IN THE MVP HUNT SHOULD
TELL YOU THAT.
I was higher on the Bears to start the season than most. While Fields didn't play well in the beginning, coaching didn't help in those games, and there were a bunch of injuries. Also, we didn't have Sweat and Yannick (or whatever his name is) in the beginning either. If we had this same team at the beginning, record might look a little different and the talk would be different.
That's if you think Fields potential is only to that of a Hinrich or Gordon were for the Bulls. I think Fields has a higher ceiling than Williams. The question is if he can unlock his potential.
ultimately it all comes down to how Poles evaluates Caleb. I think every option is on the table.
Interesting to note, we traded the #1 pick 6 weeks before the draft last year, so Poles had a ton of conviction in that decision - if he holds the pick longer or until draft day, its going to be increasingly more likely (obviously) he is going to take a QB
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Bears trading Justin Fields? GMs explain why itās the best route and where compensation could land
Seven GMs who spoke to Yahoo Sports have a consensus on whether the Bears should keep Fields, what NFL offense would best suit him and what Chicago could get for him. And the latter might not be what the Bears want to hear.
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7/7 GMs basically unanimously say they would trade Fields and take Caleb (for all the reasons Iāve been saying why it makes sense for Poles) and think Poles will do as much
one comment from this sums it up well, imagine being the GM who passed on two #1 picks to take Stroud/Caleb (assuming Caleb shows out)
I would miss Justin too, I just feel like there is too many reasons on the table for why Poles would do this
Brad Biggs basically reported this too and heās a long time Bears beat writer
Im going to get so tired of this discourse between now and April 
prime
Superstar
I feel like the if the bears lose and the offense looks bad Sunday Justin and getsy are out itās that simpleIm going to get so tired of this discourse between now and April
I personally would fire eberflus as well but I think he staysIm not trying to go too overboard with it, I just find the situation we are in to be fascinatingIm going to get so tired of this discourse between now and April
its not to be negative towards Justin either, its been great to see him improve & produce - I just think hes in a very difficult position right now
this decision by Poles carries crazy magnitude - I just try to look at it from his perspective, I dont know Caleb well enough to have strong conviction either way on the decision
and I know the thought of using that pick to help build around Fields, but I dont know that Poles will see it that way
he sees Fields as a guy who will be costing him 40 mil a year rather soon - thats more challenging to build around that a QB on a fresh rookie deal
he sees Fields as a guy who will be costing him 40 mil a year rather soon - thats more challenging to build around that a QB on a fresh rookie deal
You better get a decent haul and be right..
You want a young Cutler or a shorter Fields? I'm sticking with who I know and seen improvement from. Poles better hope Williams can be better.
the inverse to that is you canāt be wrong if you stay with Fields. if Caleb is a superstar and Poles passed on both him and Stroud, we would need Justin to take another huge leap in his development and even then it still might not look good. Iām surprised people are so down on Caleb here, itās not like we are talking about replacing Justin with Derek Carr
You dont even need fields to take a huge leap. The D is another Egde and replacing Bojack away.
Getsy is in over his head