YES!!!! Nubia-Kemet (aka Egypt) Is Where We ("Niger-Congo"-Bantus) Came From..Own It

[BlackJesus]

“The Niger-Congo are the people of subject, and they as demonstrated on page one came from the Hapi Valley/Nile Valley.

Going to the real happy valley

Have fun with your little thread while I’m gone my angry little dusty hotep

 

[BlackJesus]

What studies support this “probably not Egypt” theory?

A particular haplogroup of DNA, haplogroup L2, evolved between 87,000 and 107,000 years ago[8] or approx. 90,000 YBP.[9] Its age and widespread distribution and diversity across the continent makes its exact origin point within Africa difficult to trace with any confidence,[10] however an origin for several L2 groups in West or Central Africa seems likely,[10] with the highest diversity in West Africa. Most of its subclades are largely confined to West and western-Central Africa.

[History of West Africa - Wikipedia

Humans have occupied west Africa for at least the past 87000 years.

Answer your question?

 

[BlackDiBiase]

Why?

32min (last few minutes) not the original lecture. but the brother goes in about the letter X, left foot word posing presidents, red white and blue, these are all things that were found in the pyramids all over africa.

 

[Colicat]

A particular haplogroup of DNA, haplogroup L2, evolved between 87,000 and 107,000 years ago[8] or approx. 90,000 YBP.[9] Its age and widespread distribution and diversity across the continent makes its exact origin point within Africa difficult to trace with any confidence,[10] however an origin for several L2 groups in West or Central Africa seems likely,[10] with the highest diversity in West Africa. Most of its subclades are largely confined to West and western-Central Africa.

[History of West Africa - Wikipedia

Humans have occupied west Africa for at least the past 87000 years.

Answer your question?

No. It sparked more questions. Why did scientist find ancient DNA (from 3,000 to 8,000 years ago) in West Africa that was matched with ancient East African DNA?

To Dr. Prendergast’s surprise, none of the people at Shum Laka were closely related to Bantu speakers at all.
The fourth group, which Dr. Reich and his colleagues call “Ghost Modern,” is far more mysterious.
The ancient Shum Laka people have a substantial amount of Ghost Modern ancestry. So does the ancient Mota man from Ethiopia. But ancient remains from Morocco and South Africa had none. Today some people in Sierra Leone have a tiny trace of Ghost Modern ancestry, the researchers found.

A separate group of East Africans moved west, encountering and mixing with Central African hunter-gatherers and eventually becoming the first West Africans. The people of Shum Laka may be the descendants of this group.

Ancient DNA from West Africa Adds to Picture of Humans’ Rise

Wikipedia NY times & Harvard

I think the next logical question should be what other populations contain this “ghost modern” DNA.

 

[Asante]

Yet Indigenous Australians, Papuans and other Melanesians are more related to East Asians than Africans.
This fukkwit is grasping straws.

In terms of genotype yes, but their phenotype is closest to Niger-Congo speakers. S.O.Y. Keita says neither is more important than the other in informing us about a given population in his Cambridge lecture;

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The Cushytic African elements are closer to Europeans in cranial analysis and have an intermediate genetic position between Africans and non Africans. Despite that their limb proportions are tropically adapted like other Africans, along with varying similarities in phenotype that gives them the label of black. These people in Australia have the phenotype and identify as black, which makes them black in my book.

 

[Asante]

First, you said it was the Persians that conquered Ancient Egypt and made the Niger-Congo people migrate around Africa. Now it was the Greeks that did it!?

That is your assumption. Not all of them of them left the nation at that time in the Late Period, as obvious with the description of the native Kemites by the various ancient Greeks. The main population hub centered in Upper Kemet along the Nubian boarder as Dr. Chancellor Williams (which you've clearly never read) has illustrated throughout his book. The Persians were the one's who truly sacked the main city of "the blacks", and forced that population hub to retreat further south into Nubia and or other parts of inner Africa. Don't make the assumption that all of the blacks only lived in that region that was obliterated. The Wolof are a group that recalls the Arab invasion as a reason for their Westward retreat. It was your assumption that all of the population left at that event, which was unwarranted given that one of the main pieces of evidence coming from a Bantu Alfred M M'Imanyara map states that this region retained "Bantu" populations until up to 500 years ago;

"Original homeland of the Bantu up to 1500 A.D
Dark shading: Possible ultimate origin of the Bantu
Cross shading: Area of Bantu expansion into Kemet"

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[Asante]

Atlantis!?
Don't tell me yo think atlantis is real too!?

My god you must be on crack or meth.

You are a certified Cac. A paid agent that patrols various black websites to mislead black people on history, and particularly steer us away from our ancient Hapi Valley/Nile Valley heritage. You do the same thing over on Egyptsearch, and the other Cac ran forums.

 

[Asante]

Lying won't help your delusions.
There are multiple subclades of Y-DNA E-M2*.

And as I have shown the Egyptian and West African/Bantu subclades of Y-DNA E-M2* are different. West African/Bantu subclades of Y-DNA E-M2* don't descend from the Egyptian ones.
You can invoke Rameses all you want. It doesn't change the facts.

Once again. Gaslighting -

"Psychologists use the term “gaslighting” to refer to a specific type of manipulation where the manipulator is trying to get someone else (or a group of people) to question their own reality, memory or perceptions. And it's always a serious problem, according to psychologists."

Now get a job

Only a Cac says shyt like this!!!!!!! Somebody ban this bytch!!!!

 

[Asante]

Some of this stuff reads like a reach.

What evidence or knowledge do you have to suggest that?

 

[Asante]

More Sudan than Egypt

Agreed! They originated in the Sudan (Nubia) and expanded North to establish Kemet. Sorry if I didn't make that clear in this thread.

 

[Asante]

Goodness.

If this level of passion was put into the advancement and greatness of black people alive today!!!

I understand its inportant to know your past but it seems like obsession with real or fantasised about greatness of black people on the past...

Also seems its its basic two schools of thought here

1. Aados came from whatever part of africa and its cool. All black all good.

2. Aados came from egypt.

3. Aados were already in America when the modern day native americans came into the picture and were there when white people claim.

Also as much as some posters wanna get their views through they kind of come of as:

"We was kings and if you dont agree then fukk of cac."

Simply not agreeing woth someone on the coli seems to automatically make you a "cac" or an "agent" smh.

A few black people seem to be just as obsessed as some white people are about egypt. Those pyramids and hyroglyphics seem to trigger something in some people, some wierd obsession and obsesiveness (regardless of race).

Hoe Cac Babble!

 

[Asante]

A particular haplogroup of DNA, haplogroup L2, evolved between 87,000 and 107,000 years ago[8] or approx. 90,000 YBP.[9] Its age and widespread distribution and diversity across the continent makes its exact origin point within Africa difficult to trace with any confidence,[10] however an origin for several L2 groups in West or Central Africa seems likely,

So they're going by the current area of it's highest frequency, which ass backwards given the evidence that we have that the paternal of the population originated in the East. Secondly when tracing a populations origins the Y-Chromosome is normally used to postulate a populations migrations.

"But as DNA sequencing technology has improved, it has become progressively easier to sequence all the DNA that an individual carries. If said individual is a male, the resulting sequence will include the Y chromosome, which is inherited only from fathers. With more data in hand, researchers have been able to perform an analysis of the Y chromosome's history, and they've found that its sequence retains the imprint of both the migrations and technological innovations that have featured in humanity's past.

How to read a Y
Most chromosomes in the cell are present as two copies, which allows them to swap genetic material. Over time, this swapping will mix up the mutations that occur on the chromosome, making their history difficult to untangle.


The Y chromosome is different in that males only have a single copy, and most of it doesn't undergo any genetic shuffling (a small region can recombine with the X chromosome). As a result, any mutations that occur on a single Y chromosome will always be inherited together. This makes the Y great for reconstructing history."
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Human history traced via the Y chromosome

That is genetics 101, but you didn't know that......

Humans have occupied west Africa for at least the past 87000 years.

Yet you have no evidence that they were "Niger-Congo" speakers, so you point is debunked.

 

[Asante]

No. It sparked more questions. Why did scientist find ancient DNA (from 3,000 to 8,000 years ago) in West Africa that was matched with ancient East African DNA?

To Dr. Prendergast’s surprise, none of the people at Shum Laka were closely related to Bantu speakers at all.
The fourth group, which Dr. Reich and his colleagues call “Ghost Modern,” is far more mysterious.
The ancient Shum Laka people have a substantial amount of Ghost Modern ancestry. So does the ancient Mota man from Ethiopia. But ancient remains from Morocco and South Africa had none. Today some people in Sierra Leone have a tiny trace of Ghost Modern ancestry, the researchers found.

A separate group of East Africans moved west, encountering and mixing with Central African hunter-gatherers and eventually becoming the first West Africans. The people of Shum Laka may be the descendants of this group.

Ancient DNA from West Africa Adds to Picture of Humans’ Rise

Wikipedia NY times & Harvard

I think the next logical question should be what other populations contain this “ghost modern” DNA.

They know about this study, and they don't have shyt to say about it. They are avoiding these implications like COVID. These mf's are professional gaslighters when it comes to the subject of ancient black history. The don't have their own narrative to counter what is being argued, so they try to create doubt about our argument.

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

In terms of genotype yes, but their phenotype is closest to Niger-Congo speakers. S.O.Y. Keita says neither is more important than the other in informing us about a given population in his Cambridge lecture;

​

The Cushytic African elements are closer to Europeans in cranial analysis and have an intermediate genetic position between Africans and non Africans. Despite that their limb proportions are tropically adapted like other Africans, along with varying similarities in phenotype that gives them the label of black. These people in Australia have the phenotype and identify as black, which makes them black in my book.

Bullshyt. Genotype trumps phenotype when it comes to how human beings relate to each other.
Ironic, that you're using the definitions of old school white supremacists, yet, you claim to be against it.

Typical dusty hotep logic.

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

You are a certified Cac. A paid agent that patrols various black websites to mislead black people on history, and particularly steer us away from our ancient Hapi Valley/Nile Valley heritage. You do the same thing over on Egyptsearch, and the other Cac ran forums.

Not an argument, dusty hotep.