YES!!!! Nubia-Kemet (aka Egypt) Is Where We ("Niger-Congo"-Bantus) Came From..Own It

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

No they didn't. They were introduce civilization by Ethiopians. Look at the similar language and this is just a tip of the iceberg. They even tell you this. Read the book introduction to African civilization

ancient sumerian Ethiopian semetic
1.SU (him) 1. ESU (him)
2.MINU (what) 2. MIN (what)
3.MANNU (who) 3. MANNEW (who)
4.SIKARU (beer) 4. SIKARU ( drunk)
5.Kalbi (DOG) 5. KALBI (dog)
6.SALAMU (to become black) 6. SALEMU (become Black

Sumerian is a language isolate. Also what ethio-semitic language are you talking about?

 

[Asante]

Archaeology and linguistics, not folklore, proves Sumerian civilization precedes Ethiopian civilization and wasn't built by them, but was more likely a result of Indus Valley/West Asiatic migration.​

That's false;

John Baldwin wrote in his book “PreHistoric Nations” (1869): “The early colonists of Babylonia were of the same race as the inhabitants of the Upper Nile.”

The renown Robin Walker was a guest on Ausar Imhotep's channel less than a week ago, and they completely destroy the assertion of Sumer being the older than Kemet.

around the :25:45 minute mark is where he begins that discussion. ​

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[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

That's false;

John Baldwin wrote in his book “PreHistoric Nations” (1869): “The early colonists of Babylonia were of the same race as the inhabitants of the Upper Nile.”

The renown Robin Walker was a guest on Ausar Imhotep's channel less than a week ago, and they completely destroy the assertion of Sumer being older

Wrong....

The oldest texts in the Ancient Near East are Sumerian. Not Ethiopian. They didn't even speak or write a Semitic language which falsifies the claim of Ethiopian origin. The texts date back to the 28th Century BCE, preceding the established chronology of Egypt's Old Kingdom by 200+ years.​

 

[Asante]

Wrong....

The oldest texts in the Ancient Near East are Sumerian. Not Ethiopian. They didn't even speak or write a Semitic language which falsifies the claim of Ethiopian origin. The texts date back to the 28th Century BCE, preceding the established chronology of Egypt's Old Kingdom by 200+ years.​

So are you arguing that Sumer is older than Kemet - Nubia or? That's simply not plausible for many of the reasons named by Asar and Dr. Robin Walker in their lengthy discussion on the issue. Sumer's foundations were laid as a result of the migrants from the drying Sahara, who too were found along the river Nile.

"He concluded his presentation by noting similarities between specific Egyptian and Mesopotamian objects and suggesting that perhaps there is an initial influence of Egyptian writing on Mesopotamia because there are signs on Mesopotamian objects that are only "readable" from the standpoint of the Egyptian language, but not the Mesopotamian language."

"Too Much Stuff": Recent Finds in Predynastic Egypt

By Mario Beatty, Ph.D.

"First there is the Eurafrican .. In ancient times, this type is found in Mesopotamia and Egypt and may be compared with the Ombe Capelle skull. It is possibly identical with men who lived in the high desert west of the Nile in paleolithic times.." (-Penniman, T.K. "A Note on the Inhabitants of Kish.." Excavations at Kish, 1923-33 Vol 4. pp 65-72)

Notice the ridiculous term "EuraAfrican" (to suggest degrees of white admixture) is used to describe indigenous African physical diversity in the older anthropological studies as noted earlier. Those Africans in the "High desert west"/Western Kemetic Saharan Desert were Niger-Congo speakers and Dravidians (who originated in Africa and now live in India) who have "narrow"/gracile facial features. Genetically recessive scientist use to lie and claim that those gracile facial features indicated that they were mixed race. Those features also exist in the Cushytic populations. It was mentioned earlier leading Bio-Geneticist SOY Keita has dismantled those misconceptions that these indigenous groups are the result of admixture from Caucasoids. The study below conducted less than a decade ago confirms that those remains in the Egyptian western desert were in fact black-melaninated Africans.

"..the Qarunian (Faiyum) early Neolithic crania (Henneberg et al. 1989; Midant-Reynes 2000), and the Nabta specimen from the Neolithic Nabta Playa site in the western desert of Egypt (Henneberg et al. 1980) - show, with regard to the great African biological diversity, similarities with some of the sub-Saharan middle Paleolithic and modern sub-Saharan specimens....This affinity pattern between ancient Egyptians and sub-Saharans has also been noticed by several other investigators..This finding is in agreement with morphological data that suggest that populations with sub-Saharan morphological elements were present in northeastern Africa, from the Paleolithic to at least the early Holocene... "

--Ricaut and Walekens (2008) 'Cranial Discrete traits..' Human Biology, 80:5, pp. 535-564

The ancient Mesopotamian remains are identical to those found in the Paleolithic-Neolithic "Egyptian" Western dessert, and we can further read that the "ancient Egyptians" of the Western desert were the same as modern day "Sub Saharan Africans". Notice the statement that the ancient Kemites are consistently regarded as "Negroid" by other researchers. This correlates with the Kushyte foundation of the civilization that was noted by archaeologist John Baldwin. He was the archaeologist who first deciphered the Conifer script of Mesopotamia and was certain that Nubians founded this Western Asian civilization.


"After deciphering the cuneiform script and researching ancient Mesopotamia for many years Henry Rawlinson (1810-1895) discovered that the founders of the civilization were of Kushyte (Cushyte) origin. He made it clear that the Semitic speakers of Akkad and the non-Semitic speakers of Sumer were both Black people who called themselves sag-gig-ga or “Black Heads.”


John Baldwin wrote in his book “PreHistoric Nations” (1869): “The early colonists of Babylonia were of the same race as the inhabitants of the Upper Nile.”
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Chandra Chakaberty “A Study in Hindu Social Polity” - “based on the statuaries and steles of Babylonia, the Sumerians were “of dark complexion (chocolate colour), short stature, but of sturdy frame, oval face, stout nose, straight hair, full head; they typically resembled the Dravidians, not only in cranium, but almost in all the details.”

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There is nothing but misconstrued Biblical and subsequent Eurocentric rhetoric that indicates that this is the case.

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[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

So are you arguing that Sumer is older than Kemet - Nubia or? That's simply not plausible for many of the reasons named by Asar and Dr. Robin Walker in their lengthy discussion on the issue.

Their 'reasons' are not plausible regardless of how long their discussion was as the writing isn't of Ethiopian origin, neither is the architecture or language, and all precede Ethiopian civilization (city-building) by a couple thousand years.

Now, what's really funny about all this is that you believe Ethiopians/Egyptians sailed across the Atlantic Or Pacific Ocean and populated all these places thousands of miles distant, but how come they didn't colonize Madagascar which is only 400 miles away?​

 

[Asante]

Their 'reasons' are not plausible regardless of how long their discussion was as the writing isn't of Ethiopian origin, neither is the architecture, and both precede Ethiopian writing/architecture.​

The bone structure is certainly "Ethiopian" as the osteological evidence indicates (hinting of that African Saharan-Dravidian origin). The writing (if you want to call it writing, even though Sumerian writing does not even form full sentences) also has roots along the river Nile. Red and Black pottery that comes from the ancient Sahara onto Nubia and follows a trail throughout Southwest Asia into India.

"Archaeological research has confirmed that cultural interaction existed between the contemporary civilizations of the 4th and 3rd millenia B.C. Extensive trade routes connected the Proto-Dravidians of the Indus Valley, with African people in Egypto-Nubia, and the Elamites and Sumerians. P. Kohl discovered that vessels from IVBI worshop at Tepe Yahya, have a uniform shape and design. Vessels sharing this style are distributed from Soviet Uzbekistan to the Indus Valley, and Sumerian, Elamite and Egyptian sites. (2) In addition, we find common arrowheads at Harappan sites, and sites in Iran, Egypt, Minoan Crete and Heladic Greece.
It appears that the locus for this distribution of cultural traditions and technology was the Saharan-Nubian zone or Kush. This would explain why the Sumerians and Elamites often referred to themselves as “ksh”. For example the ancient Sumerians called their dynasty “Kish”. The words “kish”, “kesh” and “kush” were also names for ancient Nubia-Sudan.
The Elamites also came from Kush. According to the classical writer Strabo, Susa the centre of the Elamite civilization was founded by Tithonus, king of Kush.
B.B. Lal has shown conclusively that the Dravidians came from Nubia and were related to the C-Group people who founded the Kerma dynasty.(3) They both used a common black-and-red ware (BRW) which Lal found was analogous to ceramics used by the megalithic people in India who also used analogous pottery signs identical to those found in the corpus of Indus Valley writing. (4)
Singh believes that this pottery spread from Nubia, through Mesopotamia and Iran southward into India.(5) The earliest examples of this BRW date to the Amratian period (4000-3500 B.C.).
This same BRW was found at the lowest levels of Harappan sites at Lothal and Rangpur. After 1700 B.C. This ceramic tradition spread southward into megalithic India.(6) It is also found in Uzbekistan and China.

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The archaeological evidence is clearly pointing to out of Africa migrations from Nubia at least around a millennium prior to the emergence of Sumer's first Dynasty.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

The bone structure is certainly "Ethiopian" as the osteological evidence indicates (hinting of that African Saharan-Dravidian origin). The writing (if you want to call it writing, even though Sumerian writing does not even form full sentences) also has roots along the river Nile.

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False. The Epic of Gilgamesh is composed of full sentences in Sumerian and it's roots aren't from the Nile at all as Sumerian isn't a Semitic language.​

 

[Asante]

False. The Epic of Gilgamesh is composed of full sentences in Sumerian​

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There is absolutely no comparison between Kemetic writing and Sumerian text far as complexity is concerned.

"The tomb is dated to c. 3250 BC and demonstrates that such writing (on bone and ivory labels) is a more advanced form of writing than was evident in Sumer at that date. It is argued, therefore, that the Egyptian writing system, which is in any case very different from the Mesopotamian, could not have been the result of influence from a less-developed system existing at that date in Sumer."

"The Study of Writing Systems", in The World's Writing Systems, ed. Bright and Daniels, p.3

and it's roots aren't from the Nile at all as Sumerian isn't a Semitic language.

Why are you equating Semitic with ancient Kemet or Nubia languages? Neither of those languages were Semitic.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

There is absolutely no comparison between Kemetic writing and Sumerian text far as complexity is concerned.

Moving the goalpost. The argument is Sumerian text is OLDER than Ethiopian, as is their civilization.

Sumerian writing dates back to 3400 BCE and their civilization back to about 7-8,000 BCE.​

 

[Asante]

Moving the goalpost. The argument is Sumerian text is OLDER than Ethiopian, as is their civilization.

Sumerian writing dates back to 3400 BCE and their civilization back to about 7-8,000 BCE.​

Sir....you’re ignoring evidence of all forms indicating a clear migration from Northeast Africa (Nubia-Saharo) into the Fertile Crescent all the way into the Indus Valley and beyond. YOU date Sumer’s writing to the 4th millennium BC, and the History Channel (how about that) dates the oldest Kemetic text to the 5th millennium BC.

4,000-Year-Old Egyptian Manuscript Found | HISTORY

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

Moving the goalpost. The argument is Sumerian text is OLDER than Ethiopian, as is their civilization.

Sumerian writing dates back to 3400 BCE and their civilization back to about 7-8,000 BCE.​

Sumer dates back to 4000-4500 BCE at most.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Sir....you’re ignoring evidence of all forms indicating a clear migration from Northeast Africa (Nubia-Saharo) into the Fertile Crescent

Mesopotamian civilizations traded with, fought against, and interbred with African civilizations. There was clear migration back and forth as was proven by the East Face of Helicon and, 1177 BC, but your argument is that Africans created Mesopotamian (and American) civilizations and that's just patently false.​

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Sumer dates back to 4000-4500 BCE at most.

The city-states, but the area was settled around 7-8,000 BCE.​

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

The city-states, but the area was settled around 7-8,000 BCE.​

You're right. The 'Proto-Sumerians' so to speak.

 

[Dr. Hibbert's Revenge]

I think similarities between Egypt and other African societies can be attributed to common genetic, linguistic, and cultural origins.

What is the genetic evidence for black Africans all COMING FROM Egypt?

And how would you lot rebut arguments that subsaharan presence in Egypt actually INCREASED over time?